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March Madness As many of know.. who read me, I'm semi-retired..Still work over forty hours a week. Which supposedly started out as seasonal..but each year the season has gotten way too long.. Semi-retired that's like being a retread on a fourteen wheeler. Carrying the load, see how far I can get between the pavement and wheel. But the truth I have always been semi-retired..never a new rig or a new gig.. going to same places over and over.. Ah yes just one of those "GRATEFUL DEAD".A Dead Head... "Truckin'" Truckin' got my chips cashed in Keep truckin' like the doodah man Together, more or less in line Just keep truckin' on Arrows of neon and flashing marquees out on Main Street Chicago, New York, Detroit and its all the same street Your typical city involved in a typical daydream Hang it up and see what tomorrow brings Dallas got a soft machine Houston too close to New Orleans New York got the ways and means But just won't let you be Most of the cats that you meet on the street speak of true love Most of the time they're sitting and crying at home One of these days they know they gotta get going Out of the door and into the street all alone Truckin' like the doodah man Once told me "Gotta play your hand Sometimes the cards ain't worth a dime If you don't lay them down" Sometimes the lights all shining on me Other times I can barely see Lately it occurs to me What a long strange trip it's been |
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So what does that have to do with my title..? Well, I may not be Duke and Kansas.. who put a stop to March Madness..Because they where not going live with someone else's consequence..But I'm open to learning lessons Well...My tires have blown..Gas prices are down.. but the cost of "Goods"..Is a price I no longer want to pay. today.. I'm requesting a leave of absence..probably.. not the best idea coming into peak season.. but here's the rub.. somewhere between MY truth and their lies..is the right thing to do. I have discovered something...That doing the right thing is not about waiting for someone else to do the right thing..that the consequences of doing the right thing for yourself...is always going to be right for yourself..Let the chips fall where they may..don't ever allow yourself to be the consequences of someone else's wrong thing. ... Not so easy when your young..when your future is more based on playing other people's wrong things to your advantage. Than when your old and can see there are no other advantages. This may not be the time, to not worry about the future..the slings and arrows of a failing economy. and impossible job opportunities. the value of MONEY, in your pocket and in your future.. But, getting old, is not so bad a being old.. and not so good either. Doing the right thing when you're old should be easier. Being old is a bitch..but the only way to get around it..is to LOVE that bitch. One day at a time. go to bed with it, with a smile on your face.. Wake up with it, with a smile on your face..And what happens with he rest of day...just say "F*ck It"..Nobody promised you a rose garden.
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Well, that's clear as mud, but hey, March mud is what makes the frog-world go around.
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Well, that's clear as mud, but hey, March mud is what makes the frog-world go around. Since you almost never deal with the subject.It must mean my communication skill aren't very good.. Of course I don't get any feed back that you could be wrong.. So I don't have much else to draw from.. I tend to find my meanings in irony, contradictions and comparison.. I tend to use double word meanings and metaphors.. Words in this blog like semi-retired. To me had both the double word meaning and meaning, I meant.....They seemed to metaphorically coincide. So i guess if I give you a choice.. it's just muddies up the waters.. What i don't get is why you do it.. What motivates you.. to say to me what you say..Most others will say it to be humorous and appropriate, with the same kind of message. But not YOU What is it.. that makes you want to muddy up..the muddy waters?.
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i'm sorry that I muddy things up for you.....Of course you make me question my communications skills.. Granted it seems I understand what you say..So your communications skills must be good. Since you almost never deal with the subject.It must mean my communication skill aren't very good.. Of course I don't get any feed back that you could be wrong.. So I don't have much else to draw from.. I tend to find my meanings in irony, contradictions and comparison.. I tend to use double word meanings and metaphors.. Words in this blog like semi-retired. To me had both the double word meaning and meaning, I meant.....They seemed to metaphorically coincide. So i guess if I give you a choice.. it's just muddies up the waters.. What i don't get is why you do it.. What motivates you.. to say to me what you say..Most others will say it to be humorous and appropriate, with the same kind of message. But not YOU What is it.. that makes you want to muddy up..the muddy waters?.
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I don't see any of those pleasant, understanding individuals commenting on this blog.......I'm not questioning your communication skills as much as I'm questioning your desire to communicate.....unless what you want to communicate is that you are too cool for school. I don't get along with people who are clear and concise...I understand them, but I don't like it. I mentioned to you.. I think so therefore I am..I probably wouldn't get along with Descartes either.. if he was just playing in the shallow pool. I think, therefore I am..........but it's... that I can feel...that's make it all real. You can use rational, science, you can analyze, dissect, and problem solve.. but try as you might.. you will never figure out, exactly why you feel the way you do. Why bother, when you can us a computer or Someone else..to think for you.. I don't want to think for you.....the muddy water is not about what you know... it's about what you feel.. Whether There is a God or not.. It's only about how God makes you feel, when think of him...That makes it real. Love and hate is not about what you know.. it about how it makes you feel How is it possible to communicate that?....Only you can feel it. You think you tell me shit.. You think I'm interested in your information. When I read you..Like i do with everyone else... I try to read, how you feel, not what you say. I want to know what's real, and not just what is. I don't want to know what time it is.. I want to know what makes it tick.
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Beingness erupts out of time An exhalation through pursed lips....phuuuuuuuuuu A breath of silence, through phenomena... through phenomena into surrender Stillness beckons come ... come... I press my lips to the pulse I breathe the effervescence next to your skin...hmmmmmm ahhhhhhhh stillness beckons.
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Beingness erupts out of time An exhalation through pursed lips....phuuuuuuuuuu A breath of silence, through phenomena... through phenomena into surrender Stillness beckons come ... come... I press my lips to the pulse I breathe the effervescence next to your skin...hmmmmmm ahhhhhhhh stillness beckons.
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I see you scurrying around in there beneath your smug, dismissive mask I parry your thrusts of contempt with waves of compassion this is not a contest humility is the antithesis of humiliation I turn the other cheek and release a huge fart in celebration of life force 666 is the number of Satan or maybe just the area code.
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Poems have away of expressing one's inner self. they don't look into others..... they look into a mirror. So your belief in my smugness..whether it be right or wrong..Is my contempt that Is deserving of your contempt? disguised in compassion. That you are trying to help me.and not CHANGE ME.. that in finding agreement.... you can find justification That turning the other cheek and releasing a big fart.. Is just not a different kick ass side.. that there truly is no different between kicking someone who is down and kicking someone who is "smug"..If that reaction is based on a slap in face that was once recieved, never turned, and never forgiven. That 666 is not a choice..between Satan and an area code.. It's both.
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Poems have away of expressing one's inner self. they don't look into others..... they look into a mirror. So your belief in my smugness..whether it be right or wrong..Is my contempt that Is deserving of your contempt? disguised in compassion. That you are trying to help me.and not CHANGE ME.. that in finding agreement.... you can find justification That turning the other cheek and releasing a big fart.. Is just not a different kick ass side.. that there truly is no different between kicking someone who is down and kicking someone who is "smug"..If that reaction is based on a slap in face that was once recieved, never turned, and never forgiven. That 666 is not a choice..between Satan and an area code.. It's both. My gosh... the way i see YOU doesn't matter.. it only matters how you see yourself. I do not dismiss the way you see me..it' incorporated in me.. body and soul. I search for who I am. What i say to you, like my poetry, doesn't say who you are..It only says who i could be. I could be smug, I could have contempt, I could be dismissive, I could lack humility..What I can't do .. is leave that final judgment up to YOU..
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Interesting that you think my first poem is asking YOU to surrender and the second one insults YOU, yet you go into a frantic diatribe about how they express my inner self.......These poems have nothing to do with YOU.........I'm just sharing poetry that I wrote.....You say you muddy the waters because the waters are muddy......Seems to me that you prefer muddy waters because it gives you an out......provides several possible escape routes depending on the developing situation......shifty....looking right and left, always hyper-aware of the developing situation.....like the guy who always has a woman in the wings in case this one doesn't work out......It's like you always have a whole stack of scripts waiting in the wings of your mind and they butt in line and the pages get mixed.........
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Interesting that you think my first poem is asking YOU to surrender and the second one insults YOU, yet you go into a frantic diatribe about how they express my inner self.......These poems have nothing to do with YOU.........I'm just sharing poetry that I wrote.....You say you muddy the waters because the waters are muddy......Seems to me that you prefer muddy waters because it gives you an out......provides several possible escape routes depending on the developing situation......shifty....looking right and left, always hyper-aware of the developing situation.....like the guy who always has a woman in the wings in case this one doesn't work out......It's like you always have a whole stack of scripts waiting in the wings of your mind and they butt in line and the pages get mixed......... We will never quite see it the same. In my world of muddy waters... It's created by my subjectivity and duality. I your world off clearing the waters up.. is your objectivity and singularity. It my world, that which disagrees with me... never can be wrong It your world...anything but what agrees with you..never can be right. In my world there is no better or worse...no right or wrong In your world that's all that matters. Yes MY WORLD IS MUDDY.. You can try to clear up YOUR world..That okay, I don't fault that. But don't throw that recovery Mud on me. How do i know that? because I think...that's what you think.. I am doing to you. My example would be our direct talk about God.. and our indirect talk about men and women. I can get my head around that.. there nothing to me that's quite as muddy. I CAN'T differentiate... what you can differentiate. My subjectivity and duality won't allow me.. where your objectivity and singularity forces you to. You think, that's make me think. I am better than you?... When i think there is no "better". It is what it is, and I am what I am.
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I've often heard that women are better at multi-tasking, while men are better at compartmentalization.......This must be how you manage your reality....you divvy it up into functional and non-functional.....unless you live in some kind of institution that automatically takes care of all your physical needs and allows you to live in subjective-land full time. You say in your more rational writing, that you work in an office, crunching numbers. I assume that entails being places at set times, wearing specified clothing and grooming, driving and maintaining a car, feeding yourself, dealing with money, dealing with people......a certain level of socially acceptable verbal exchanges with co-workers, clerks, various staff etc... Do you talk the way you talk on this site to people you deal with in your work and social situations?.....If you talked to them the way you talk to me, you wouldn't have that job....you would be living on the street or in an asylum...... I don't know what your game is.......Do you really think that what you tell me is deep, complex and philosophically sophisticated? You say...." I wish you could just read what you write the way I read it"........Well right backatcha Cricket.....
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You may think you're right...From that point of reference.. think i must be wrong. I think you're wrong ....from the point of reference..that I am also wrong. I am mot wrong because you're right. You talk to me and about me..and I become your reference point. I talk to you, but Never about you.. You are not my reference point. The key word is YOU.. and what that means. How you reference it and i reference it. Certainly my reference point is wrong.. As YOU being plural.. I do have a disconnect. A flaw that if YOU wasn't plural... I would have nothing to say to YOU. I use God a lot with you..It's just make things more evident to me.. The disagreement in our agreement. I agree that god doesn't exist . I disagree with how someone thinks about it. I don't have the RIGHT answer about that, there is no right answer. It seems to me that whether one believe in God and another doesn't.. that they BOTH live under the same umbrella of hypocrisy, as to the subjectivity of GOD. And of course.. you don't understand what I am trying say. Let me ask you.. instead of just disagreeing.. explain your position of why believing God doesn't exist.. is better than believing he does.. Other than the fact it's YOUR truth.
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You say "I probably wouldn't get along with Descartes either.. if he was just playing in the shallow pool.".......That phrase means nothing.....you're just muddying the waters so you don't have to face reality....lovely cozy, opacity...... Descartes was a genius.....but he was a product of his time as we all are..."liking" or not liking him is immaterial......You keep using his idea that "I think therefore I am" a some kind of mantra, like you use "subjective" and "objective" to cover a whole panoply of situations.. Descartes was Catholic, as were most others in the world he inhabited...The Christian God was a given....God caused the world......Descarte advanced Scientific thinking a great deal and invented the use of mathematics in Physics..... His ideas, however, especially his "Cogito ergo sum" contributed, and some say, caused the horrific Anthropocentrism that has pervaded the Western World for centuries, resulting in the destruction of so much of the natural world, causing environmental degradation and Climate Change........But hey, that "I think. therefore I am" phrase is pretty cute.......
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"I probably wouldn't get along with Descartes either.. if he was just playing in the shallow pool."....... Seriously? The word.. "probably" and "If".... should give rise to choices.. Why would I get along with Descartes and why wouldn't I?.. Metaphorically, what is playing in the shallow pool? and was Descartes playing in it? When it comes to relating to me, I call you..pompous, arrogant, prejudice and narrowminded. I could entirely base it ..on this response.. which has repeated itself so many time. My description of you... simply implies.. i am not worthy of your thought. Your response explains your answer to my "probably" and "if". but yet, through your pompous, arrogant, prejudice and narrowminded...You are incapable of grasping the idea of "probably" and "if"..Like you know what Descartes was thinking.... Now whether or not Descartes was playing in shallow end... I don't know.. But I do know YOU ARE. You answer the question.. then imply the person asking it..is wrong.? Because, to you, there is no choice, and choices? WTF?.. just muddy up the waters.
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Right back atcha Cricket......your mantra should be..." I project, therefore I am".......You say that I think I know what Descartes was thinking, when you are the one who keeps repeating that quote .....over and over. You must know, of course, that Descartes has been studied and expounded on by all the best philosophers, thinkers and scientists for centuries......The body of work based on his idea is enormous.......But you parade around with "Cogito ergo sum" as if it's a rand new idea.....My comment was more a comment on the subsequent results of the idea than of you......You take everything so personally..........
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Quoting Cricket... "I talk to you, but Never about you.. You are not my reference point.".......Seems to me that you calling me pompous, arrogant, prejudice and narrowminded. is making me a reference point.........LOL "I think, therefore I am" + God >>>>>>>Anthropocentricsm>>>Climate Change
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Quoting Cricket... "I talk to you, but Never about you.. You are not my reference point.".......Seems to me that you calling me pompous, arrogant, prejudice and narrowminded. is making me a reference point.........LOL "I think, therefore I am" + God >>>>>>>Anthropocentricsm>>>Climate Change I do not know if Descartes meant it literally.. I don't if Descartes was just trying to eliminate a common view of God, for that time.and as expression of free will and independence.. i don't know if Descartes, took into consideration. that thinking alone. is not a sufficient criteria, to determine that something is..For example does a tree which Descartes could assume doesn't exist because it doesn't think..Only exist because I can of think it. or that in the future man could create something that can think.. I don't know how Descartes viewed his own statement. I don't know how Descartes view and influence of the times about God..defines his own statement. I don't know if Descartes statement is categorical. The answers to those questions.. creates the "probable" and an "if".. I'm not giving you the answer.. I don't know the answers "When it comes to relating to me, I call you..pompous, arrogant, prejudice and narrowminded" You comment on what I say out of context.. Like you can't read or think beyond your nose. I use terms you refuse to even try to understand..Terms designed for you to expand your thought. not change your thought. I'm not trying to tell YOU anything..I'm observing.. whether what I observe is right or wrong is not up to me....You Certainly have the right to believe it's wrong. I expect that.. However I expect that to be a challenge. to you and your perception. Disagree if you want but don't deny.. You try to say that my observation is untrue...not mistaken, but untrue. I assure you it's true. even though I can be mistaken.. The challenge goes both ways. I challenge you and your response challenges me. However your responses do not challenge me.. they simply say my observations are untrue. God doesn't exist...We agree.. yet my observations categorically don't deny God.. but because to you God categorically doesn't exist, my observations are untrue.
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You go on and on saying you don't know what Descartes was thinking.....and I reiterate that you can know much more about what Descartes thought if you are interested. Constantly repeating that one sentence from his enormous and varied body of work is just a toddle. You complain that I use your words out of context, yet what I keep attempting to point out is that you are taking Descartes' words out of context.........So you don't know what he thought or what other great thinkers thought about Descartes' works......Why are you not interested in the context of this pet phrase you parade around the neighborhood on a leash....Cogito ergo sum....such a nice little doggo.. .He was a great believer in logic......he said that a strong intellect partners with an equally strong will to form a logical conclusion.....ergo..conviction is a sign of intellectual acuity. If one applies Descartes' own definitions, my conviction that no God exists is valid.
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“Those who reason most powerfully and are the most successful at ordering their thoughts so as to make them clear and intelligible will always be best able to persuade others of what they say, even if they speak in the thickest of dialects” ― René Descartes, A Discourse on the Method
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well here we go again. I am not dispute Descartes..I'm trying to enhance his thought to make it clearer. You refuse to accept that as my premise about everything. “Those who reason most powerfully and are the most successful at ordering their thoughts so as to make them clear and intelligible will always be best able to persuade others of what they say, even if they speak in the thickest of dialects” Again.... it's not a disagreement to say that commonality is a necessity. You must find commonality with those you wish to persuade. no matter how organized, intellectual, and clear you perceive your thought to be.. Descartes may or may not have believe that .. but you don't. If one's interpretation of that is singular, and intellectually finite.. as is your thought of God.. Then persuasion is not about Truth ....but persuasion itself. Persuasion can not be the purpose.. but the end result. You thoughts of god, are persuasive only within the limits of your power of reason, and organization of thought. which is intellectually finite. So i agree with your finite reason that god doesn't exist. But we are not dealing in commonality.. because my thought about God are intellectually infinite. I can see your box. I can understand your box. but i can not accept and be persuaded that God doesn't exist outside your box.. there are just more things that are outside the box of a finite intellectual..than are inside. don't ask me what they are .. I don't know.. but at least, i know about what i don't know.. Which by my definition make me a heck of lot smarter than you. don't tell me what you know.. tell me something... i don't know. I know you refuse to understand it.. but an act of persuasion. can not be a subtraction of what someone knows but must be an addition. The idea that you believe someone else is total wrong voids your intellectual power, and organization of thought. You can not persuade someone who you believe is wrong. You persuade by adding to what you think is right and sound reasoning of the thoughts of others.. instead of trying to subtract what you think is wrong. You can not persuade ANYONE..if you think God doesn't exist and they think he does. Hypocrites will fight you, because the truth doesn't matter to them...because they really don't believe in God and aren't going to think about on your terms... and those that really do believe.. you will have no commonality with to be able to persuade. you will have intellectually cut yourself off.
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I've only just noticed this blog - perhaps I was too preoccupied floating about, wandering lonely as a cloud :- ). I don't know why, or even if relevant, but after reading the exchanges, The Eagles 'Desperado' came to mind.
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"Desperado" Desperado, why don't you come to your senses? You been out ridin' fences for so long now Oh, you're a hard one I know that you got your reasons These things that are pleasin' you Can hurt you somehow Don't you draw the queen of diamonds, boy She'll beat you if she's able You know the queen of hearts is always your best bet Now it seems to me, some fine things Have been laid upon your table But you only want the ones that you can't get Desperado, oh, you ain't gettin' no younger Your pain and your hunger, they're drivin' you home And freedom, oh freedom well, that's just some people talkin' Your prison is walking through this world all alone Don't your feet get cold in the winter time? The sky won't snow and the sun won't shine It's hard to tell the night time from the day You're losin' all your highs and lows Ain't it funny how the feeling goes away? Desperado, why don't you come to your senses? Come down from your fences, open the gate It may be rainin', but there's a rainbow above you You better let somebody love you, before it's too late
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well here we go again. I am not dispute Descartes..I'm trying to enhance his thought to make it clearer. You refuse to accept that as my premise about everything. “Those who reason most powerfully and are the most successful at ordering their thoughts so as to make them clear and intelligible will always be best able to persuade others of what they say, even if they speak in the thickest of dialects” Again.... it's not a disagreement to say that commonality is a necessity. You must find commonality with those you wish to persuade. no matter how organized, intellectual, and clear you perceive your thought to be.. Descartes may or may not have believe that .. but you don't. If one's interpretation of that is singular, and intellectually finite.. as is your thought of God.. Then persuasion is not about Truth ....but persuasion itself. Persuasion can not be the purpose.. but the end result. You thoughts of god, are persuasive only within the limits of your power of reason, and organization of thought. which is intellectually finite. So i agree with your finite reason that god doesn't exist. But we are not dealing in commonality.. because my thought about God are intellectually infinite. I can see your box. I can understand your box. but i can not accept and be persuaded that God doesn't exist outside your box.. there are just more things that are outside the box of a finite intellectual..than are inside. don't ask me what they are .. I don't know.. but at least, i know about what i don't know.. Which by my definition make me a heck of lot smarter than you. don't tell me what you know.. tell me something... i don't know. I know you refuse to understand it.. but an act of persuasion. can not be a subtraction of what someone knows but must be an addition. The idea that you believe someone else is total wrong voids your intellectual power, and organization of thought. You can not persuade someone who you believe is wrong. You persuade by adding to what you think is right and sound reasoning of the thoughts of others.. instead of trying to subtract what you think is wrong. You can not persuade ANYONE..if you think God doesn't exist and they think he does. Hypocrites will fight you, because the truth doesn't matter to them...because they really don't believe in God and aren't going to think about on your terms... and those that really do believe.. you will have no commonality with to be able to persuade. you will have intellectually cut yourself off. I have no desire to persuade anyone about the non-existence of God.....However.I will exercise my right to mock the absurdities of Religion at my will.......
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