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myseek1 80F
1279 posts
2/10/2021 8:02 pm
*~*~* 'Conspiracy' not a Theory*~*~*~


In the morning, with my second cup of coffee, I check online Swiss "Worldweek Daily", a political news channel that brings up to date the latest events worldwide. Today the speaker presented an article in Times Magazine which is also published in Wall Street Journal that caught my attention. G..gle is a helpful tool to find articles and download them.

Time Magazine just dropped a bombshell report that CONFIRMS that the elites were working to manipulate the 2020 Election.

The Vast Anti-Trump 'Conspiracy'

Time's Molly Ball happily describes a "conspiracy" among the progressive left, big labor, big business and the Washington establishment to counter Donald Trump and suppress unwanted elements of US political conversation before and after Election Day.

Like the various actors she describes at the heart of this vast campaign, Ms. Ball presents it as a virtuous effort to protect democracy from Mr. Trump and Covid-. The participants in this conspiracy alleged Ms. Ball certainly have influenced the outcome.

She writes:

Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding. They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote mail for the first time. They successfully pressured social media companies take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies fight viral smears.

She later adds that "the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream, a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information."

In a way Donald Trump was right.


Happiness is when what you think, what you say, what you do are in harmony - M. Gandhi


MrsJoe 76F
17385 posts
2/10/2021 8:15 pm

This does not surprise me in the least. I have long thought that our governments are controlled by the "elites" and the opinions and welfare of the common folks do not really matter to them. This has probably been going on for decades, or maybe even longer, but is not becoming more known, but whether from the speed of information of the internet or because they just don't care anymore if we know about them, I am not sure.

Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


myseek1 80F
1376 posts
2/10/2021 8:23 pm

This makes me feel like everything is turned upside down.........

Happiness is when what you think, what you say, what you do are in harmony - M. Gandhi


dusty117 73M

2/10/2021 11:01 pm

Eighty million voters voted a thief out of office, and is anyone really surprised. You can call that a conspiracy ... I'm calling it Democracy.

On January 6th the blood fight you saw was over decent healthcare and education ... it's that simple.


PearlsWthMyJeans 68F
1708 posts
2/11/2021 1:08 am

I was able to find the original article by googling "Time Magazine The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign". I urge anyone who is interested in this topic to do the same.

A day without dance is .... just kidding. I have no idea!


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
2/11/2021 7:14 am

i do not accept any "equivocation" anymore.. It is abused and overused as a defense mechanism..
I know most of you don't understand..IF YOU DID.. YOU WOULDN'T ACCEPT IT EITHER.

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In regard to this article.. it is unsubstantiated with facts of a conspiracies.. the "political elite" is a bunch of bunk..Someone needs to tell me who and what that is..without using labels.. labels don't work for conspiracies.
sewg at least has a rational for the conspiracy of money..defining the political elite.
But even so.. It's the end game that defines the conspiracy..and the political money elite have far different endgames. The endgame of those wanting to dispose of trump..is NOT a conspiracy.. As is the endgame of those who want to keep him is NOT...If there is no endgame... there is no conspiracy..

The conspiracy we find ourselves in.. is a hamster wheel..spinning without end..
designed to fight against any endgame, an "exercise" in futility.

The conspiracy of the MANY against the conspiracy of the FEW. and the conspiracy of the FEW against the conspiracy of the Many.


myseek1 80F
1376 posts
2/11/2021 7:59 am

    Quoting dusty117:
    Eighty million voters voted a thief out of office, and is anyone really surprised. You can call that a conspiracy ... I'm calling it Democracy.

    On January 6th the blood fight you saw was over decent healthcare and education ... it's that simple.
When you call this coup Democracy, you should take a lesson in "what Democracy is". And what did the Thief steal?

Happiness is when what you think, what you say, what you do are in harmony - M. Gandhi


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
2/11/2021 9:05 am

That's hilarious....A bunch of people got together to make sure the US election could be carried out successfully in the midst of a pandemic and in spite of Trump's machinations......Don't you remember him stating long before the election that if he didn't win, it was not a fair election?.......People worked together to make the election fair.......and you call that a "conspiracy...........
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myseek1 80F
1376 posts
2/11/2021 12:30 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    That's hilarious....A bunch of people got together to make sure the US election could be carried out successfully in the midst of a pandemic and in spite of Trump's machinations......Don't you remember him stating long before the election that if he didn't win, it was not a fair election?.......People worked together to make the election fair.......and you call that a "conspiracy...........
    ......
I love your sense of humor!!!

Happiness is when what you think, what you say, what you do are in harmony - M. Gandhi


dusty117 73M

2/11/2021 1:01 pm

    Quoting myseek1:
    When you call this coup Democracy, you should take a lesson in "what Democracy is". And what did the Thief steal?
You might start with looking into money that Donald J Trump was court ordered to "repay".

And sure, some States made some changes in vote by mail policy during a WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC. In my estimation that's not conspiracy ... and it's a ridiculous conversation and not worth having.


dusty117 73M

2/11/2021 2:12 pm

A conspiracy theory is rarely litigated in a court of law but here's something that may or may not support your post ...

USA Today 1/25/2021
WASHINGTON – Dominion Voting Systems filed a $1.3 billion lawsuit against Rudy Giuliani, a personal lawyer for former President Donald Trump, alleging defamation over his repeated complaints about the reliability of voting machines in the 2020 election.

The 107-page lawsuit alleges that Giuliani made more than 50 statements disparaging the company’s equipment in speeches, on Twitter and on podcasts.

“Although he was unwilling to make false election fraud claims about Dominion and its voting machines in a court of law because he knew those allegations are false, he and his allies manufactured and disseminated the ‘Big Lie,’ which foreseeably went viral and deceived millions of people into believing that Dominion had stolen their votes and fixed the election,” the lawsuit said.


Rentier2 79M
950 posts
2/11/2021 2:23 pm

It's despicable when the elites encourage people to vote and make it easier for them to do so.

The US should restrict voting to White, Protestant, property owning males as the Founding Fathers intended.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
2/11/2021 5:29 pm

    Quoting MrsJoe:
    This does not surprise me in the least. I have long thought that our governments are controlled by the "elites" and the opinions and welfare of the common folks do not really matter to them. This has probably been going on for decades, or maybe even longer, but is not becoming more known, but whether from the speed of information of the internet or because they just don't care anymore if we know about them, I am not sure.
You know that Donald Trump is an "Elite". right?


Rocketship 80F
18568 posts
2/12/2021 6:18 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    You know that Donald Trump is an "Elite". right?
BINGO ~~~~~~~~~


myseek1 80F
1376 posts
2/12/2021 11:36 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    You know that Donald Trump is an "Elite". right?
Donald Trump was not in line with the democratic party. He had another "philosophy". Like it or not. Being rich does not mean being friends with everybody in the club.

Happiness is when what you think, what you say, what you do are in harmony - M. Gandhi


dusty117 73M

2/13/2021 2:49 pm

    Quoting myseek1:
    Donald Trump was not in line with the democratic party. He had another "philosophy". Like it or not. Being rich does not mean being friends with everybody in the club.
Well yeah ... Trump had a different "philosophy". There's no better way to explain it. Trump's philosophy is the reason he's a one term President.

Trump's philosophy earned him disgust and disrespect worldwide. That's no conspiracy.


myseek1 80F
1376 posts
2/13/2021 5:58 pm

    Quoting dusty117:
    Well yeah ... Trump had a different "philosophy". There's no better way to explain it. Trump's philosophy is the reason he's a one term President.

    Trump's philosophy earned him disgust and disrespect worldwide. That's no conspiracy.
Worldwide he did not start any wars, and many nations could breathe a sigh of relief.

Happiness is when what you think, what you say, what you do are in harmony - M. Gandhi