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MrsJoe 76F
17383 posts
12/6/2019 7:17 am

It is definitely a sad statement on today's society, both political and socially when one cannot voice an opinion with out others screaming, "Off with his head!"

Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


kneedtwoplease 68M
1189 posts
12/6/2019 9:15 pm

Agreed BB & Ms J. So Concrete Obvious


bondjam33 70M
840 posts
12/7/2019 6:07 am

I assume that would be the same Jonathan Turley who DIRECTLY CONTRADICTED what he said yesterday only few short years ago - what farce if this is the best defence you can manage.

FROM The Independent yesterday -- but the quote is verbatim from Turley himself.

Another component of Turley's argument was that there was no underlying crime, so Trump shouldn't be impeached. I could write a paragraph debunking Turley's claim by citing various legal experts who disagree with him, including those who testified today. But why do that when I can simply quote him contradicting himself?

Today’s Turley should have a coffee with 2014 Turley, who wrote an article in The Washington Post headlined "The Five Myths of Impeachment." One of the myths he cites is literally the myth he stated in his testimony today. Under the myth entitled "An impeachable offense must involve a violation of criminal law," Turley wrote:

“While there’s a high bar for what constitutes grounds for impeachment, an offense does not have to be indictable. Serious misconduct or a violation of public trust is enough.”


bondjam33 70M
840 posts
12/7/2019 1:29 pm

    Quoting  :

As usual you deflect because you cannot answer the point made.

It is certainly not against the law to change one's mind but when you re being touted as an expert on the law it is pure bullshit to give diametrically opposed opinions about the same point of constitutional law. This is NOT a change of mind ; it is a fundamentally opposite position on the same point of law. Either he is n expert on the law or he is not. If he is then the point of law is the point of law - period. On the other hand if you want him to be able to support whichever argument he likes at the time and whichever suits you then he is no longer an expert but an opinionated arsehole.


dusty117 73M

12/7/2019 2:50 pm

I listened to Turley. He made a couple good points but didn't come close to defending the Impeachment allegations against Trump. He NEVER once said Trump didn't bribe Zelensky, and he never said Trump didn't use the Office of President to pursue his own personal gain.

As far as Pelosi "hating" Trump … grow up dude. Do you really think every cop who busts a thief hates the thief? Do you think prosecutors judges and jurors hate the criminals they convict? Do you hate Bernie Madoff?