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hiramhankwilliam 95M
4173 posts
2/16/2019 1:26 pm
FRAUD ATTEMPT


please bear with me regarding my attempt to write this and make it coherent .

recently I received a call from a sporting good company in texas.

the gentleman that was calling was the owner. he asked if I had placed an order from his company for some tents in the amt of some 300 dollars.

I told him no. he explained that he had rec an online order with my name , address and a various of my email address. he told me he became suspicious due to the difference in the ship too address being different from my home address.

needless to say I was shocked. the credit card used was one I keep only for emergency usage.

he told me that he had canceled the order and suggested I check my cc account for any other bogus useage attempts.

he also suggested contacting any other places that were listed. so they would cancel the order before shipment.

he stated many do this , knowing folks will contact the card company and get credited but the company may have shipped the item and be out the item and the cost.

in checking my cards on line site I found 2 other charges . one for a high tech game cam from another sporting good firm in Missouri for 275.00 dollars, one for a toilet seat mind you in calif . this waa cost of 350.00.

I called the other two and one had already canceled best the info didn't add up.

the place in calif had not shipped and cancelled the order.

of course I called the card company , explaining what happened. they closed the card number and will issue me a new card and number.

they stated they will investigate it.

the ship too address on all three is for an address in a upscale area not far from my home.

I check the mobile county revenue site using the address, the name was not familiar to me.

I had a friend that uses facebook to check the name.

the name belongs to a couple in early 40s. the man attended the same private shool as my kids. he was there at the tiem both of my kids. I suspect he was like me a victim.

meaning he lives in an area that indicated he doesn't nee to defraud any one . plus he and his wife have good jobs.

I am guesing who ever did this is using these folks address as a drop off address . most likely that know this coupe works , so they are no home durintg day.

or maybe not.

I am lost as to how this all works and what happened.

I have gotten the folks phone number and trying to decide if I should called them.

my point in posting this is two fold.

1. to let folks be wary about where u use your card and 2nd asking if any one has any idea how they cot my card number .

any thought are welcome

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


hiramhankwilliam 95M
3516 posts
2/16/2019 1:26 pm



DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


MrsJoe 71F
10257 posts
2/16/2019 3:15 pm

You need to think back of when and where you used your card, and maybe contact those places and tell them that your card had been compromised. We used to use our debit card when we traveled, and Joe's was compromised one time.
We found out by checking our bank when we got home, and saw a strange charge from a company in Hartford, Conn. I called, and it was an online order for a pair of sunglasses, but they hadn't completed it because the address to ship to wasn't complete. Our bank did as yours, cancelled number and reissued.
We racked our brains trying to figure where it could have happened. I contacted the two motels where we had stayed, and of course they didn't think it had been anyone there, and since they were both where we stayed frequently, we didn't think it was, but wanted them to be aware.
We figured it was one of the places where we had eaten. Sadly, a couple of months later, when we were back in Nashville, we found out that one of the regular waitress where we always went had been fired for "playing loose with customer's credit cards"!
From then on, we do not hand our card to anyone if we aren't right there to see the transaction.
Folks should check their accounts frequently and not just wait for the statements. Oh, and we got a credit card to use when we travel, so nobody can drain our bank account.


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hiramhankwilliam 95M
3516 posts
2/16/2019 5:21 pm

    Quoting MrsJoe:
    You need to think back of when and where you used your card, and maybe contact those places and tell them that your card had been compromised. We used to use our debit card when we traveled, and Joe's was compromised one time.
    We found out by checking our bank when we got home, and saw a strange charge from a company in Hartford, Conn. I called, and it was an online order for a pair of sunglasses, but they hadn't completed it because the address to ship to wasn't complete. Our bank did as yours, cancelled number and reissued.
    We racked our brains trying to figure where it could have happened. I contacted the two motels where we had stayed, and of course they didn't think it had been anyone there, and since they were both where we stayed frequently, we didn't think it was, but wanted them to be aware.
    We figured it was one of the places where we had eaten. Sadly, a couple of months later, when we were back in Nashville, we found out that one of the regular waitress where we always went had been fired for "playing loose with customer's credit cards"!
    From then on, we do not hand our card to anyone if we aren't right there to see the transaction.
    Folks should check their accounts frequently and not just wait for the statements. Oh, and we got a credit card to use when we travel, so nobody can drain our bank account.
mrs joe , thank you for your comment.

I have checked back agaist my cc records. on the date nearest to the fraud I bought ome items at a local grocery store.

my card never leaves my sight.

so I am not sure . the card like most has the chip where you insert intot eh scanner.

i was told my the credit card comapny there is scanners that can be held in ones hand that card read your cc card even jus standing next to u.

i just found another item that was fraud on same card.

i reported all to the cc company and will rec credit.

it still spooks me even after seening similar things while working in the jail.

hell im too old to learn all this tech stuff.

tell mr joe hi for me.

also have you heard any thing about maisie??

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


kneedtwoplease 63M
970 posts
2/16/2019 5:30 pm

I had a guy call me a couple months ago saying he had my number on caller ID, but said the caller 'from my number' was somebody totally different. He said he was calling to check my number and we had a nice conversation. I was glad he called. I don't answer anything from my area code now unless its in my contacts.


MrsJoe 71F
10257 posts
2/16/2019 6:18 pm

    Quoting hiramhankwilliam:
    mrs joe , thank you for your comment.

    I have checked back agaist my cc records. on the date nearest to the fraud I bought ome items at a local grocery store.

    my card never leaves my sight.

    so I am not sure . the card like most has the chip where you insert intot eh scanner.

    i was told my the credit card comapny there is scanners that can be held in ones hand that card read your cc card even jus standing next to u.

    i just found another item that was fraud on same card.

    i reported all to the cc company and will rec credit.

    it still spooks me even after seening similar things while working in the jail.

    hell im too old to learn all this tech stuff.

    tell mr joe hi for me.

    also have you heard any thing about maisie??
Have heard nothing about Maisie, except what SC wrote in her blog saying she had heard from him on her blog, but of course it was conveniently deleted, so I doubt it happened.
I did see that Liszt had made a comment yesterday and early this morning on Bigblock's blog, but nothing about Maisie.


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hiramhankwilliam 95M
3516 posts
2/16/2019 6:43 pm

ok ty

I don't see those comments for some reason

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


boogie7102 74F
484 posts
2/16/2019 7:57 pm

Hank, there is now a device that can be used to scan through your wallet or a purse. Beats me how it operates but you can buy a credit card holder that I believe has a type of tin lining that will prevent this. My son mentioned that you could also use tin foil to line your wallet. Also, Albuquerque had a run on stolen numbers. Thieves had a special card that they could use at self service gas stations that would read the credit card number of the previous user at that pump. It is getting crazy out there !


boogie7102 74F
484 posts
2/16/2019 8:11 pm

    Quoting MrsJoe:
    Have heard nothing about Maisie, except what SC wrote in her blog saying she had heard from him on her blog, but of course it was conveniently deleted, so I doubt it happened.
    I did see that Liszt had made a comment yesterday and early this morning on Bigblock's blog, but nothing about Maisie.
Mrs Joe, I saw that little zinger of a comment this morning when I checked to see if there were any updates about Maisie. Really encouraging, a walker and drolls! Geezeeeeee I also saw the comment from Sportsbuff and Leaf where the medical information was straight out of the 50's. Sounded like a comment from socialized medicine handbook to justify non payment of rehab and drugs. My rant for the day. I just want both Listz and Maisie to know they have a lot of support here from good people. Prayers are with them both.

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hiramhankwilliam 95M
3516 posts
2/16/2019 8:18 pm

    Quoting boogie7102:
    Mrs Joe, I saw that little zinger of a comment this morning when I checked to see if there were any updates about Maisie. Really encouraging, a walker and drolls! Geezeeeeee I also saw the comment from Sportsbuff and Leaf where the medical information was straight out of the 50's. Sounded like a comment from socialized medicine handbook to justify non payment of rehab and drugs. My rant for the day. I just want both Listz and Maisie to know they have a lot of support here from good people. Prayers are with them both.

    s
MISS BOGGIE, you said it so well. lisz and Maisie are good folks. I hope both are doing as well as can be. I know many like u an I have and are praying for her recovery.

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


MrsJoe 71F
10257 posts
2/16/2019 8:19 pm

    Quoting kneedtwoplease:
    I had a guy call me a couple months ago saying he had my number on caller ID, but said the caller 'from my number' was somebody totally different. He said he was calling to check my number and we had a nice conversation. I was glad he called. I don't answer anything from my area code now unless its in my contacts.
A few weeks ago, I missed a call from a local cell phone number. Normally, I would ignore it, but I was expecting a call from a person that I did not know her number, so I thought it was her.
I returned the call, and the man who answered was very nice, but he said he had been getting several calls from people who said they had a call from his number. Scammers are somehow using active phone numbers! He cautioned me about giving any information to them, and to not answer any questions in the affirmative. I already knew that, but thanked him for the advice.
A couple of folks on face book have said they even got a scammer call from their OWN number!


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MrsJoe 71F
10257 posts
2/16/2019 8:23 pm

    Quoting boogie7102:
    Hank, there is now a device that can be used to scan through your wallet or a purse. Beats me how it operates but you can buy a credit card holder that I believe has a type of tin lining that will prevent this. My son mentioned that you could also use tin foil to line your wallet. Also, Albuquerque had a run on stolen numbers. Thieves had a special card that they could use at self service gas stations that would read the credit card number of the previous user at that pump. It is getting crazy out there !
When I get gas at the pump, I look for the store's seal across the little door on the pump..... and I hit the clear button several times after I get my receipt. It's getting so bad, that I have really considered always going inside to pay, but a lot of the time, they want you to pay first in that case, and I like to fill the car up each time so I don't know how much it will take. And that's two trips inside. Good exercise for me, I know.... but I'm lazy.

For me to be upset by your criticism, I must first value your opinion.


MrsJoe 71F
10257 posts
2/16/2019 8:30 pm

    Quoting boogie7102:
    Mrs Joe, I saw that little zinger of a comment this morning when I checked to see if there were any updates about Maisie. Really encouraging, a walker and drolls! Geezeeeeee I also saw the comment from Sportsbuff and Leaf where the medical information was straight out of the 50's. Sounded like a comment from socialized medicine handbook to justify non payment of rehab and drugs. My rant for the day. I just want both Listz and Maisie to know they have a lot of support here from good people. Prayers are with them both.

    s
Scoot over, I'll join you on that soapbox..... lol. So many strides have been made, and are being made all the time in the care and treatment of stroke patients. (and other conditions) Many, who 20 years ago would have died, not only live today, but return to physically active lives.
I just chuckled to myself, because Liszt is very intelligent and perfectly capable of doing the research and asking the right questions of the doctors and rehab specialists. I just hope he has some good emotional support because a person can get exhausted and then the "what ifs" start crowding into your thoughts.
As for those "zingers", just consider the source, eh? Kind of sad.


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hiramhankwilliam 95M
3516 posts
2/16/2019 8:36 pm

    Quoting hiramhankwilliam:
    MISS BOGGIE, you said it so well. lisz and Maisie are good folks. I hope both are doing as well as can be. I know many like u an I have and are praying for her recovery.
boogie, sports buff and leaf are ids from same demented set of cells.

sc is more or less a member of the same group.

nothing she /he/ it says deems as real.

there is a person, orperson that gets fun out of using many ids.
one common trait is no matter what id or comment. it relates to sexual attraction or reference . case in point SPORTSBUFF.

leaf or whom ever it her she is, uses the male appenage refernce often.

maybe latent admiration

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


hiramhankwilliam 95M
3516 posts
2/17/2019 3:54 am

    Quoting  :

thanks fior advice. lucky nothing was shipped. I am still lost as to how they gained my card number or where. maybe like the rep from the fraud dept that issued the card said. they used some type skimmer.

what they tried to order was never shipped.

whats more mystifying is the ship too address .

how they planned o n getting the items?? the name listed as the ship to names according to what I find are stable well educated and have good jobs.

I am lost about allthis.

again ty for advice

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


boogie7102 74F
484 posts
2/24/2019 1:56 pm

    Quoting hiramhankwilliam:
    boogie, sports buff and leaf are ids from same demented set of cells.

    sc is more or less a member of the same group.

    nothing she /he/ it says deems as real.

    there is a person, orperson that gets fun out of using many ids.
    one common trait is no matter what id or comment. it relates to sexual attraction or reference . case in point SPORTSBUFF.

    leaf or whom ever it her she is, uses the male appenage refernce often.

    maybe latent admiration
Please Hank, I am not part of the far left group !!!!! Can't believe you even said that.


boogie7102 74F
484 posts
2/24/2019 8:12 pm

    Quoting hiramhankwilliam:
    boogie, sports buff and leaf are ids from same demented set of cells.

    sc is more or less a member of the same group.

    nothing she /he/ it says deems as real.

    there is a person, orperson that gets fun out of using many ids.
    one common trait is no matter what id or comment. it relates to sexual attraction or reference . case in point SPORTSBUFF.

    leaf or whom ever it her she is, uses the male appenage refernce often.

    maybe latent admiration
I hope I just read this incorrectly. Please delete if I did.