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hiramhankwilliam 95M
4175 posts
2/8/2019 8:45 pm
muslim females


a blog posted earlier questioned a man muslims rights.

I thought I would point out how the muslim religion says females are to perform.

The Rules for Muslim Women
Dress. How women are supposed to dress is outlined specifically in the Islamic religion.
Eye Contact. Islamic women are expected to hide any action that may display a sense...
Nothing to Draw Attention. Muslim women are expected to refrain from any actions...
Serious and Business-like. The Qur’an states,...

Eye Contact
Islamic women are expected to hide any action that may display a sense of attraction to men. This includes avoiding eye contact and keeping the gaze lowered in modesty, according to the Islam Online website. The most extreme scholars in the Muslim faith believe that women should not be allowed to see any parts of men except those who are relatives and they cannot marry. This concept is not widely accepted in the faith.
Nothing to Draw Attention
Muslim women are expected to refrain from any actions that may draw attention to them. This includes wearing jewelry, jingling ornaments and perfume. Any action to attract a man’s attention is forbidden by the Muslim holy book, the Qur’an, because it might tempt a man to follow her and because she exhibits an “evil intention” of drawing the attention of men to herself, according to the Islam Online website.

this sounds like what feminist hate.

sharia law rules for women
After the woman is married, her husband becomes her new guardian. While Muslim men can have several wives, Sharia law limits a woman to one husband. A woman who wants a divorce must have the consent of her husband. Once he consents to the divorce, the woman has to pay him back the dowry.

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hiramhankwilliam 95M
3421 posts
2/8/2019 8:54 pm



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MrsJoe 71F
10108 posts
2/8/2019 10:03 pm

Hank, I don't think a debate on the merits or comparisons between two religions is necessary. Everyone already has their opinion on that topic.
However, as I stated in the blog about executions, if a Christian clergyman is allowed to be with a prisoner, right into the death chamber, then another religion clergy should also be allowed to be with a prisoner right into the death chamber.
This is America, and we do have the right to expect equal treatment....... however, I do not see why it would be necessary for either to actually be in the chamber. All that is needed can be done and said before the prisoner is taken into the chamber, the clergy can be just outside the door.


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hiramhankwilliam 95M
3421 posts
2/8/2019 10:07 pm

    Quoting MrsJoe:
    Hank, I don't think a debate on the merits or comparisons between two religions is necessary. Everyone already has their opinion on that topic.
    However, as I stated in the blog about executions, if a Christian clergyman is allowed to be with a prisoner, right into the death chamber, then another religion clergy should also be allowed to be with a prisoner right into the death chamber.
    This is America, and we do have the right to expect equal treatment....... however, I do not see why it would be necessary for either to actually be in the chamber. All that is needed can be done and said before the prisoner is taken into the chamber, the clergy can be just outside the door.
MRS JOE
I RESPECT HOW U FEEL

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sparkleflit 71F
3921 posts
2/8/2019 11:41 pm

When was the last time you read the Biblical rules in Leviticus of how Christian Women should act ........and Men for that matter.


hiramhankwilliam 95M
3421 posts
2/9/2019 8:49 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    When was the last time you read the Biblical rules in Leviticus of how Christian Women should act ........and Men for that matter.
I did an have.

what is your point

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sparkleflit 71F
3921 posts
2/9/2019 11:17 am

My point is that most Christians don't follow the rules in the Bible and if I quoted it as an example of how Christians are expected to act according to their Holy Book, you and most Christians would disagree .........


hiramhankwilliam 95M
3421 posts
2/9/2019 1:21 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    My point is that most Christians don't follow the rules in the Bible and if I quoted it as an example of how Christians are expected to act according to their Holy Book, you and most Christians would disagree .........
mam, you are so wrong, as CHRISTAINS we know how we are to live and "act"

how ever we fail. why?? we are mortals. we sin.

as I have said and others also. CHRISTAINS ARE NOT PERFECT, WE JUST FOR GIVE.

there again wefail to forgive. we don't follow the wishes of THE SAVIOR.

we conyinue to grow if we are CHRISTAINS . seeing how we fail, stop with revenge or holding grudges.

it is a life long effort. we are subjected to sin in the world.

even the greatest of modern times, DR BILLY GRAHAM, stated he wasa still a work in progress even in hisl ast days.

I have grown as a person an a CHRISTIAN.

I FIGHT THE BATTLE EACH DAY.

THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS...….. WE ARE MORTALS.

how we are told to behave a children is not how we act. we get punished.

our parents loves us. they forgive us.

we are CHILDREN OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR. whether HE punishes when we do wrong has been debated since JESUS was on earth.

but HE FORGIVES US. BE CAUSE HE LIKE OUR PARENTS ON EARTH LOVES US.

whether this answers you question ot not it is what we are taught and how we are told to act

even you as a non believer is one of HIS CHILDREN.

you possess a great knowledge of the BIBLE AND i supect have a better understanding than many CHRISTIANS.

I HAVE OFTEN WONDERED WHAT CAUSED YOU TO LOSE FAITH??

you aRE a wise ,knowledgeable lady.

it is shame you are missing out on the GREATEST JOY .

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Maisie2013 67F
19134 posts
2/9/2019 2:12 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    When was the last time you read the Biblical rules in Leviticus of how Christian Women should act ........and Men for that matter.
Should I just keep laughing, or point out Leviticus has nothing to do with Christianity, since Christianity didn't exist when Leviticus was supposedly written?


sparkleflit 71F
3921 posts
2/9/2019 3:28 pm

    Quoting Maisie2013:
    Should I just keep laughing, or point out Leviticus has nothing to do with Christianity, since Christianity didn't exist when Leviticus was supposedly written?
Sure Maisie, you can say that, but it is a book of the Christian Holy Book, commonly called by Christians the "Bible".......like the Koran is the Islamic religions's Holy Book...Christianity has hundreds of interpretations of the Bible....thousands of denominations and splinter groups......some of them insist that certain parts of the Bible is literal truth, while others insist that the same passage is merely a metaphor.......Christians accept that there are these many interpretations. My point is that assuming the Koran has only one interpretation, one version, one unified belief system is naive and wrong.............I know lots of Muslims who are Muslims in the same sense as those who call themselves Christians and only go to church for weddings and funerals and never read the Bible, but tick the "Christian" on forms.....

I just think it's ridiculous for someone like Hiram to pretend he knows anything about being a Muslim.


sparkleflit 71F
3921 posts
2/9/2019 3:37 pm

    Quoting hiramhankwilliam:
    mam, you are so wrong, as CHRISTAINS we know how we are to live and "act"

    how ever we fail. why?? we are mortals. we sin.

    as I have said and others also. CHRISTAINS ARE NOT PERFECT, WE JUST FOR GIVE.

    there again wefail to forgive. we don't follow the wishes of THE SAVIOR.

    we conyinue to grow if we are CHRISTAINS . seeing how we fail, stop with revenge or holding grudges.

    it is a life long effort. we are subjected to sin in the world.

    even the greatest of modern times, DR BILLY GRAHAM, stated he wasa still a work in progress even in hisl ast days.

    I have grown as a person an a CHRISTIAN.

    I FIGHT THE BATTLE EACH DAY.

    THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS...….. WE ARE MORTALS.

    how we are told to behave a children is not how we act. we get punished.

    our parents loves us. they forgive us.

    we are CHILDREN OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR. whether HE punishes when we do wrong has been debated since JESUS was on earth.

    but HE FORGIVES US. BE CAUSE HE LIKE OUR PARENTS ON EARTH LOVES US.

    whether this answers you question ot not it is what we are taught and how we are told to act

    even you as a non believer is one of HIS CHILDREN.

    you possess a great knowledge of the BIBLE AND i supect have a better understanding than many CHRISTIANS.

    I HAVE OFTEN WONDERED WHAT CAUSED YOU TO LOSE FAITH??

    you aRE a wise ,knowledgeable lady.

    it is shame you are missing out on the GREATEST JOY .
Oh for God's sake........cut out the evangelizing.......I didn't "lose faith"....what a ridiculous assumption...........faith is just an an acceptance of fantasy over fact.....nothing mysterious at all......Anyways, you completely missed my point.....apparently your Dunning-Kruger is impenetrable.[/ SIZE]


hiramhankwilliam 95M
3421 posts
2/9/2019 3:53 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Sure Maisie, you can say that, but it is a book of the Christian Holy Book, commonly called by Christians the "Bible".......like the Koran is the Islamic religions's Holy Book...Christianity has hundreds of interpretations of the Bible....thousands of denominations and splinter groups......some of them insist that certain parts of the Bible is literal truth, while others insist that the same passage is merely a metaphor.......Christians accept that there are these many interpretations. My point is that assuming the Koran has only one interpretation, one version, one unified belief system is naive and wrong.............I know lots of Muslims who are Muslims in the same sense as those who call themselves Christians and only go to church for weddings and funerals and never read the Bible, but tick the "Christian" on forms.....

    I just think it's ridiculous for someone like Hiram to pretend he knows anything about being a Muslim.
NO WHERE DO YOU SEE ME SAYING I KNOW MUSLIM WELL.

I read, I see and saw.

working in a jail/ prison gives you views of life not seen to the outside.

muslim minsters were the worse violators of prison rules.

the inmates claiming muslim were the worst of the worst.

and then there is minister farracam .

he spews hate. calls whites and jews name. this being a leader of a religion.

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hiramhankwilliam 95M
3421 posts
2/9/2019 4:10 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Oh for God's sake........cut out the evangelizing.......I didn't "lose faith"....what a ridiculous assumption...........faith is just an an acceptance of fantasy over fact.....nothing mysterious at all......Anyways, you completely missed my point.....apparently your Dunning-Kruger is impenetrable.[/ SIZE]
dear I was not evangelizing . my words were simply my way of telling you that CHRISTAINS are not perfect nor infallible .

regarding faith, it is real. of course you nor any none believer wouldn't know that.

for you and other none believers, JUDGEMENT DAY will be when u learn how wrong you have been.

seems , you like other liberals/ leftist are close mined in regard to getting "you/ their " point. also, you like others of the green/ leftist persuasion . you never admit any one can be right othr than you/them.

finally.. dear I never have nor ever will imply or say I am better skilled or a better person.

I show how inept I am each time I write a blog.

I posses few skills of note.

I am nothing more than you or any one sees.

a simple person enjoying life and facing reality.

ones of the grandiose mind set, resides here daily an often.

make no mistake I am far from it.

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sparkleflit 71F
3921 posts
2/10/2019 2:02 pm

    Quoting hiramhankwilliam:
    dear I was not evangelizing . my words were simply my way of telling you that CHRISTAINS are not perfect nor infallible .

    regarding faith, it is real. of course you nor any none believer wouldn't know that.

    for you and other none believers, JUDGEMENT DAY will be when u learn how wrong you have been.

    seems , you like other liberals/ leftist are close mined in regard to getting "you/ their " point. also, you like others of the green/ leftist persuasion . you never admit any one can be right othr than you/them.

    finally.. dear I never have nor ever will imply or say I am better skilled or a better person.

    I show how inept I am each time I write a blog.

    I posses few skills of note.

    I am nothing more than you or any one sees.

    a simple person enjoying life and facing reality.

    ones of the grandiose mind set, resides here daily an often.

    make no mistake I am far from it.
You certainly were and still are Evangelizing...........You're like a fish that is unaware of the water he's swimming in........