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Pre, Mid or Post Tribulation? This is a Christian blog so if you are not Christian don't criticise it, just click off and be nice otherwise be blocked. Thanks. You have Pre-Tribulational, Mid-Tribulational and Post-Tribulational positions. Which one is it? I used to be pre-Tib because many were preaching it and had not studied it, but then I thought the antichrist would sign the treaty in the middle of the Tribulation and then we would know who he was and get whisked out, (1 Thes 4:16-17; 2 Thes 2:3). So then I thought it was Mid-Trib because wouldn’t we know who the antichrist was then? The problem is I didn’t think about the timing of 1 Thes 4:16-17. 2 Thes 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the of perdition; Another problem with Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib and Post-Trib is that no one knows the day nor the hour, so if the antichrist signed the treaty we'd be able to countdown the days. But if Scripture says no one will know the day nor the hour then that door is closed also. After the church age is over there's no indication that the church itself is raptured immediately, it just says the church age is over, He removes His Holy Spirit from the world (not from individuals) and ceases to convict the world of sin, then God deals again with Israel like He did in the Old Testament. Once the Holy Spirit is removed this will make the allowance for Jesus to return. 2 Thes 2: 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way 1 Thes 4:16-17 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord However there are a few verses that seem to indicate we go through the Tribulation but how can that be if we are to come back with Jesus at the end of the Tribulation? Here are some verses that indicate we go through the Tribulation. Mat 14:29-31 “But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then the sign of the of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. 31 And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. So this is saying after the Tribulation and so is this verse below Rev 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. These verses also say we go through the tribulation. Rev 20:4-6 Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years. This verse also says that immediately AFTER the tribulation and sends His angels to gather the elect. Mat 24:29-31 “But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then the sign of the of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. 31 And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. But we are not destined for God's wrath which comes on the world at the end of the Tribulation. However Satan has always persecuted Christians and Jews for millennia. 1 Thes 5:9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ However we all return soon after because God's wrath is poured out upon the earth and Jesus comes back 'with His saints' to destroy the antichrist & the world's armies. 1 Thes 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints. Conclusion: We go through most or all of the Tribulation but as God is about to pour out His wrath at the end we get taken up to be with the Lord and then come back with Him in victory. For there is one resurrection for the righteous and one for the damned. Therefore both saved Jews and saved Gentiles have to be resurrected (1 Thes 4:16-17) at the same time which seems to be after the Tribulation. What is your conclusion? Have I missed anything? If I have it must be proven by Scripture and I will accept it. I'm happy to learn. Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there. |
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God bless Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.
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4/8/2020 9:33 am |
God bless CHRISTIANS KNOW ALL TOO WELL THE TRIBULATIONS. THE ATHESISTS AN NONE BELIIEVERS HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING. THE DAYS ARE NUMBERED TILL THE TRUMPETS SOUND AND HE stands ON THE CLOUDS IN THE EASTERN SKY. PRAISE BE HIS HOLY NAME!
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This has been a discussion for a long time and many scriptures can be used to support all three ideas. Personally, I lean towards pre, partially based on Luke:21:36. I know there are folks who like to discuss it, and that arguments and divisions have even been had over it, and that is the sad part. Just as "it is what it is", I'll just say, "He comes when He comes", praise be his Holy Name. Maranantha! Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.
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4/8/2020 1:25 pm |
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SIR, VERY WELL WRITTEN AND SO TRUE. CHRISTIANS KNOW ALL TOO WELL THE TRIBULATIONS. THE ATHESISTS AN NONE BELIIEVERS HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING. THE DAYS ARE NUMBERED TILL THE TRUMPETS SOUND AND HE stands ON THE CLOUDS IN THE EASTERN SKY. PRAISE BE HIS HOLY NAME! Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.
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This has been a discussion for a long time and many scriptures can be used to support all three ideas. Personally, I lean towards pre, partially based on Luke:21:36. I know there are folks who like to discuss it, and that arguments and divisions have even been had over it, and that is the sad part. Just as "it is what it is", I'll just say, "He comes when He comes", praise be his Holy Name. Maranantha! Luke 21:36 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. God bless. Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.
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Pre Trib God bless Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.
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