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Nileyears 71F
2380 posts
1/18/2023 2:41 pm
Time to Retire Old Joe

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Nileyears 71F
4208 posts
1/18/2023 2:44 pm

Might be a good time to look into that 12 string guitar I've had my eye on.


dusty17 73M
482 posts
1/18/2023 4:27 pm

I decided I needed a new acoustic guitar last year. Got a Taylor Academy 10e ... it didn't break the bank and I love it.


hermitinthecity 70M
1696 posts
1/18/2023 5:18 pm

That can be repaired. There's a couple of ways;

The expensive way that would mean taking the bridge off and either putting another one on or repairing the old one and putting it back. You've already researched that.

2. Depending if it's only the bridge that is split or whether behind it is split as well there's the possibility of using an epoxy resin or a suitable glue to run into the split, letting it set and seeing what happens. If the split goes right through the guitar, you'll have to stick something behind to stop the glue leaking out. The glue will fill up the peg holes so I'd suggest making little wooden plugs to seal up the holes, they will be glued in after the process but will be easier to drill and file out being wood. This would require a bit of care in doing , it depends if you'd want to put in the effort or could find someone with a little bit of skill to do it for you.

If you run a suitable epoxy or glue though you are committed to the result you get. You can get colours for epoxy if you want to match it but a clear would do. A problem might be quantities, not sure if you can get just a tiny amount. Something to think about. God bless

Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.


Nileyears 71F
4208 posts
1/18/2023 6:22 pm

    Quoting dusty17:
    I decided I needed a new acoustic guitar last year. Got a Taylor Academy 10e ... it didn't break the bank and I love it.
That's a nice guitar for the price. Wish I got one when they first came out, they were only $599.00 plus tax of course. Now I think they are closer to $900.00. Taylor has some awesome guitars, but the price tag on those made in the US are a little steep for me.

I tried a Takamine 12 string out and loved it! It was also an acoustic/electric.


Nileyears 71F
4208 posts
1/18/2023 6:47 pm

    Quoting hermitinthecity:
    That can be repaired. There's a couple of ways;

    The expensive way that would mean taking the bridge off and either putting another one on or repairing the old one and putting it back. You've already researched that.

    2. Depending if it's only the bridge that is split or whether behind it is split as well there's the possibility of using an epoxy resin or a suitable glue to run into the split, letting it set and seeing what happens. If the split goes right through the guitar, you'll have to stick something behind to stop the glue leaking out. The glue will fill up the peg holes so I'd suggest making little wooden plugs to seal up the holes, they will be glued in after the process but will be easier to drill and file out being wood. This would require a bit of care in doing , it depends if you'd want to put in the effort or could find someone with a little bit of skill to do it for you.

    If you run a suitable epoxy or glue though you are committed to the result you get. You can get colours for epoxy if you want to match it but a clear would do. A problem might be quantities, not sure if you can get just a tiny amount. Something to think about. God bless
I had thought about doing something like that, but not sure of the results. One of the problems with taking the old bridge off, according to the man I talked to, is that being an old guitar it might crack the wood. That's why I mentioned the repair might ruin the guitar.

I think there are epoxy glues you can buy in small tubes and mix when needed. I have a drill and drill bits, so don't need to buy any tools. I'm now trying to figure out how to make the plugs. I also noticed small cracks where the saddle sits, but that looks like an easy fix.

Thank you for the help Hermit, always appreciated. God Bless you too!


Darter50516 66M
3857 posts
1/18/2023 7:58 pm



While several "Old Joes" to be retired crossed my mind.... Yours is unique! I'd get the 12 string and give this Old Joe a special place on the wall =where you may gaze with fond memories. Yet while sounding "wonky" you still may want to pick him up from time to time just for memory sake.


Nileyears 71F
4208 posts
1/18/2023 9:33 pm

    Quoting Darter50516:


    While several "Old Joes" to be retired crossed my mind.... Yours is unique! I'd get the 12 string and give this Old Joe a special place on the wall =where you may gaze with fond memories. Yet while sounding "wonky" you still may want to pick him up from time to time just for memory sake.


LOL, that's funny!!

I almost changed my guitar's name because of an ex-boyfriend named Joe, but never did, my guitar was here long before we ever dated.

I'm going to try and repair Old Joe per Hermit's idea and see how it goes. If it doesn't work out, it will be another work of art on my music wall under my "Rae's Place" sign that a friend carved out of wood for me.

Fixed, or not fixed, I'm going to get that 12 string!


Archer62 83F
7077 posts
1/19/2023 1:06 am

MY MARTIN CAME FROM CALIFORNIA EONS AGO AND IS STILL IN PRETTY GOOD CONDITION. I WONDER WHAT IT WOULD BE WORTH NOW?


hermitinthecity 70M
1696 posts
1/19/2023 6:11 am

You could make the wooden plugs by using a disc sander or a bench grinder to get the taper correct and matching the angle to the pins.

Maybe use a bit of 'glad wrap' or thin sandwich wrap around the little plug to stop seepage of the glue into the wooden plug, less filing. It will be a challenge to get that taper right in each hole if the glue floods one or more, but not impossible.

Or maybe put a thin bamboo stick with plasticine, playdough or some softish mouldable substance around it, and gently push it in the hole, you could pull it out just before the epoxy hardens completely and wipe around the hole with a tiny brush that has acetone on it to smooth it out? It would mean a lot less very fine delicate filing later.

Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.


Nileyears 71F
4208 posts
1/19/2023 7:27 am

    Quoting Archer62:
    MY MARTIN CAME FROM CALIFORNIA EONS AGO AND IS STILL IN PRETTY GOOD CONDITION. I WONDER WHAT IT WOULD BE WORTH NOW?
If you have a pre-war Martin D-45, 1936 to 1942, you could be holding a guitar worth over 300K in your hands. Other Martin models you could look up online to see what they are going for now. My Martin guitars are common and newer models, they haven't gone up much in price. One is 5 years old, the other is 3, which was a birthday present from my eldest daughter.


Nileyears 71F
4208 posts
1/19/2023 7:39 am

    Quoting hermitinthecity:
    You could make the wooden plugs by using a disc sander or a bench grinder to get the taper correct and matching the angle to the pins.

    Maybe use a bit of 'glad wrap' or thin sandwich wrap around the little plug to stop seepage of the glue into the wooden plug, less filing. It will be a challenge to get that taper right in each hole if the glue floods one or more, but not impossible.

    Or maybe put a thin bamboo stick with plasticine, playdough or some softish mouldable substance around it, and gently push it in the hole, you could pull it out just before the epoxy hardens completely and wipe around the hole with a tiny brush that has acetone on it to smooth it out? It would mean a lot less very fine delicate filing later.
What about making pins out of wood putty? Do you think that would work?

I do have a small hand grinder that I could use to shape the plugs to the size of the pins. Haven't used acetone in years, LOL, got a little light headed the last time I used it and it left me with a real bad headache.

Thanks again Hermit, you have given me several ideas on how to repair Old Joe.


maudie1957 74F
1256 posts
1/19/2023 10:55 pm

Hope you can repair Old Joe, if not displaying him on your wall sounds like the next best thing.


Nileyears 71F
4208 posts
1/20/2023 9:55 am

    Quoting maudie1957:
    Hope you can repair Old Joe, if not displaying him on your wall sounds like the next best thing.
I'm sure going to try Maudie. Even my granddaughter was shocked to hear what happened. We played most of the weekend and the guitar was fine, but I have noticed it going out of tune a lot lately. Lots of buzzing made me look for the problem. Hard to imagine this old guitar sitting on the wall collecting dust.