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Nileyears 71F
2379 posts
3/17/2022 11:07 am
Defined by What???

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Nileyears 71F
4208 posts
3/17/2022 11:09 am

Repeat, just in case words go missing.

After seeing an advertisement on women's products, which didn't use the word "Women" in the add, but two other descriptions, "Bleeders and Birthers", it got me to thinking. Are women now defined by their bodily functions?

What I don't understand is why women are just letting this slide off their backs and don't speak up about it?

We have a biological male that was named "Woman of the Year", biological males claiming they are women and winning and breaking records in women's sports. Where are the feminists? Why are they silent?

Pretty soon the real women will be silenced and hidden away if things don't change.

Another thing, if women are going to be defined by their bodily functions, what's next? Men being defined by theirs? Oh, I can think of a few already, but how about this? Gassers and Burpers! YEAH! Then we can put the women in with the men when they are no longer Birthers.

Where's the science everyone talks about?


Nileyears 71F
4208 posts
3/17/2022 1:26 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I remember the ads for period products from when I was bleeding and birthing.......the TV and magazine ads used a blue liquid to represent blood.....LOL...Our blood was considered shameful and dirty and disgusting....We went to great lengths to hide it from the males....winding toilet paper around the used pad before disposing of it,, so no blood was visible, to protect the sight from any males that might see it....The emotional and mental effects the period hormones had on us was to be kept strictly to ourselves ...we wrapped them up like the pad to protect the males....

    There was a male culture that encouraged making jokes about our bleeding...If we were angry at a guy...no matter how much he deserved it, he would respond by suggesting we were on our period, shaming us in order to deflect responsibility for their own behaviour....an easy out....

    20+ years ago, I was asked to do a painting for the front desk of the "Women's Centre".....As part of the painting I wrote a line about a sisterhood bound by milk and blood ....and some male board members flipped out because they assumed I was advocating violence, because it never occurred to them that women's relationship to blood was about their monthly flow and giving birth....How blood is our friend that visits for a few days every month .....

    I have made many paintings and sculptures celebrating women's blood and milk...birthing and nurturing....And they have been predictably very controversial....Why?

    We celebrate International Women's Day....I usually contribute with some creative entertainment/educational/group presentation....about 10 years ago, I had the idea that we write a group poem about our experience of bleeding. I thought a woman from each age-group would write and read a verse about their experience and we would all recite the chorus together....incorporating different cultural practices.....I just happened to talk to teen girls and young women first.....The younger they were, the more enthusiastic they were about the project....Then I hit a wall with women over 40...and women my age were appalled and so embarrassed by even the thought of bringing attention to their bleeding, that they turned their head in shame just at the mention....

    Women bleed and birth and secrete milk from our breasts...That's what makes the World go around....We all came from a woman's bloody vagina...each and every one of us.....We are the bleeders and the birthers and that's what Feminists are doing...Yesterday, Today and as long as Humans inhabit this planet..


Yes, I remember those ads. Maybe women back then were considered blue bloods? Just joking!

I think we have all heard the PMS, or on the rag jokes from men, but not all men are that unkind. Some men actually have a lot of respect for what women go through in their lives. My brothers had no problem going to the store to pick up feminine products for us women in the house and this dates back into the 70's on up. They also did the same for their wives when they got married. I remember one of my sister in laws was shocked by that.

Good story about what you did to celebrate womanhood, but I don't see what is happening today as a way of celebrating being a woman, what I see is the canceling of women and calling us by our bodily functions. Men, who were once women, had their breasts removed and take male hormones to grow beards, become masculine, yet they claim they are men giving birth. Call me a realist, but men cannot give birth. See what I did there? Used the word "MEN" instead of "GASSERS"? In todays world, can we still use the words men/women, male/female, boy/girl, he/she, etc... without insulting someone?

As far as women over 40 being embarrassed by their monthly period, we must have been around totally different groups of women. I remember them all being quite open in discussing the monthly visitor, even in front of the men. Good grief! If men don't understand the female anatomy by the age of 40, they must be living under a rock!


Darter50516 66M
3857 posts
3/17/2022 1:34 pm

The silencing of "REAL" women by those who wish they were......................... I might also add......... Why do they remain silent?


Nileyears 71F
4208 posts
3/17/2022 2:06 pm

    Quoting Darter50516:
    The silencing of "REAL" women by those who wish they were......................... I might also add......... Why do they remain silent?
Good question, I'd like to know why as well.


Nileyears 71F
4208 posts
3/17/2022 5:28 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    One company in Britain referred to the users of their products that deal with menstrual blood as "Bleeders and Birthers " Lots of women are standing up against that.....

    I don't understand what you are so incensed about....What does it have to do with Trans Women?.. Those products have been advertised and referred to as "Feminine Products" for decades....I never liked that designation, but I have always chosen to not be defined by advertisers......Femininity is a Social Construct....I personally would prefer a company that produces the products that I need to efficiently soak up the blood my body produces refer to me as a bleeder than a feminine person..

    .
Oh, I think I understand what you are saying. You would rather be introduced as a bleeder, in our case, former bleeder, rather than a woman? Example would be if you and your female friends go out to meet your gentlemen friends at a restaurant and the men notice you and say, "Here come the bleeders now", instead of "here come the ladies/women/girls?" You wouldn't find that degrading?

A Tampax ad even stated that women aren't the only bleeders and put a picture of a man on the box. Men don't bleed, unless of course they might have been shot and are using a tampon to stop, or slow down the bleeding. As far as trans people, to each their own, though if a trans couple decides to have a baby, it isn't a man having it, it's the female.

I'm not ashamed of being feminine, it's nice to be treated like a lady.


Nileyears 71F
4208 posts
3/17/2022 8:05 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    No, you obviously don't understand what I'm saying...Only one company...a British one, referred to it's customers as "bleeders"..A product that is specifically made for soaking up blood...and yes ,those who purchase their product are probably women.....If women don't like the product, stop buying it..That's how free enterprise works....

    This is what your whole premise is based on.."WASHINGTON (TND) — A feminine products company has come under fire for apparently referring to women as “bleeders” in a social media post.

    The post was made by an Instagram account belonging to Yoppie, a company selling menstrual cycle products. It included a picture of, and quote from, the company's CEO and founder Daniella Peri.

    Most bleeders know how they are impacted by their period, but unfortunately aren’t in touch with their feelings & symptoms in the other phases of their cycle. We are here to change that,” reads the quote from Peri."
I have no problem not purchasing products from companies whose policies I disagree with, but it is still a free enough country to voice my opinion. You want to be known as a bleeder/former bleeder, it's your choice. I prefer being called a woman, I was born female, I'll die female.

Getting in touch with feelings and symptoms? I believe we all know the feeling and what occurs during a menstrual cycle. You can define yourself as a bleeder, as for me, no thanks. I will not degrade myself by defining who I am by a natural bodily function.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
3/18/2022 7:21 am

    Quoting  :

I know sparkle can be annoying in not giving men the benefit of the doubt.. but i also think it's not intentional.
Whether something is a compliment or a slight....When one labels a label.. for example simply saying a particular rose is beautiful can be redundant, Where beauty has nothing to do with it.
If you call someone a good liberal of an ugly conservative....First, you wouldn't know what the hell you're talking about..... and second your idea of beauty or ugliness has nothing to do with the adjective but simply the noun.

When you call someone a beautiful Woman.. WTF does that mean? For men it may mean something.. but for woman it may mean something else.. It could be taken as a slight to womanhood.. as that person is an exception to the ugliness of woman... which in turn, mean that person is only one step away from becoming a normal ugly woman, and you get to decide.

A compliment needs to given as a fixed position that can not change. You can't take it back. If you call a woman beautiful..You need to understand, no matter her looks, no matter what you think matters... she will always be beautiful.

Telling a woman you love her is the same.. it's always and forever..relationship and circumstances can change but what you love can't . to "fall out of love" is the failure in saying you're in love.
So is there any doubt, any wonder why some women would think the way they do....That woman who hears a man give her the greatest compliment that he loves her.. is almost always just bullshit.


Nileyears 71F
4208 posts
3/18/2022 9:40 am

    Quoting  :

Tx, I think I'm going to stay away from the chickens for a bit, my life seems to be less stressed out at the moment. No worries about everything trying to eat and kill my birds. There are so many new neighbors out here now that think that just because they moved to the country, their dogs can roam free and do whatever they want. I'm tired of dealing with it all. So see, less stress.

No, it wasn't me that made out like a bandit, I wished it was. When I disappeared a few years back, it was during those surgeries I had. Medical bills just about drained me dry.

I didn't know Boogie was Cayman, when did she change her name? I like West, but that even takes me further away from my girls and grandchildren. My daughters and I have plans in the making for the near future, we just have to wait and see if the economy is going to improve, or take a nose dive.

LOL, dancing and partying sounds great. That reminds me, when you mentioned the Stagecoach Dance Hall on one of my blogs, it got me to thinking about how close I lived to that place when I used to go there with my friends. Just a hop, skip and a jump!

CHEERS!!


TxJW024 81M

3/20/2022 2:42 am

I will never speak to a lady again. LOL


TxJW024 81M

3/20/2022 7:26 am

Sounds like a bunch of psycho babble.
I have never had a lady refuse a compliment.

To imagine or assume someone to whom I am to speak may have been abused is freaky

Prison shower???????????? What a bunch of horse hockey. LOL

I refuse to live in fear of being friendly.
Everyone else can make their on decisions.
Party On!


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
3/23/2022 7:15 am

    Quoting TxJW024:
    Sounds like a bunch of psycho babble.
    I have never had a lady refuse a compliment.

    To imagine or assume someone to whom I am to speak may have been abused is freaky

    Prison shower???????????? What a bunch of horse hockey. LOL

    I refuse to live in fear of being friendly.
    Everyone else can make their on decisions.
    Party On!
I could all be solved..If men didn't have dicks for brains....or women could absolve them for it.

I agree... if you believe what you say. it's not your fault how it is taken...

"Lay Lady Lay..Lay across my big brass bed"