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MrsJoe 76F
17306 posts
2/2/2019 8:24 pm

I think it is wrong to go back decades and crucify someone for silly behavior when they were young using the standards of today. But, his changing story is a bit odd.
I'm sure he will make his decision to resign or not based on what is best for him and his family.
I'm more concerned about this "new" advanced thinking on abortion. It seems there are some who believe it is ok to wait until a baby is about to be born, and decide to kill it in the womb..... or drag it out and then decide whether to "allow" it to live or die.
However, some of those same people would scream for someone to be prosecuted and put in jail for putting down their own animal.


Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
2/2/2019 8:25 pm

No kidding! I thought at first that he was misrepresented, then I thought he was also a very bad communicator.......Now I think he is one hot mess and better for everyone if he resigns.


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
2/2/2019 8:52 pm

It seems like the man has lived an honorable life despite the college antics from 30 plus years ago. He absolutely should not resign over that.

People are going to have different views on the abortion issue. Many of the states are revamping the laws because of concern over a potential supreme court ruling regarding Roe versus Wade. West Virginia has actually tightened the regulations which means that women go across the border to get the procedure done and pay for it themselves.

Despite the changes, women are not going to be seeking unfettered late term abortions unless something has gone very wrong. There is a case where a young woman died along with her fetus because she declined cancer treatment. Late term abortions can be done if the fetus is not viable or unlikely to survive birth. This is a decision between the doctor and the mother versus the mother and the government.

Abortions are like guns. Outlawing them is not going to stop people from having them
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Abracadabra


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
2/3/2019 9:02 am

    Quoting  :

You can dress up as Micheal Jackson as a tribute without painting your face black......for one thing, MJ did not have a black face.........and neither do most African Americans.....there are many aspects of Humans that can be emphasized in a costume that doesn't include black-face........Apparently you don't understand the history of Black-Face and Minstral Shows and how they insulted and demeaned the African Americans.........Even if you don't, the Governor of a Southern state should........


MrsJoe 76F
17306 posts
2/3/2019 9:05 am

Interesting thoughts. I agree about the MJ incident, but African Americans have a different take on any white person putting on black face for any reason, tribute or not. That is likely the objection to the black face and KKK costumes also. It is seen as ridicule poked at folks with real black skin.

Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
2/3/2019 9:17 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    You can dress up as Micheal Jackson as a tribute without painting your face black......for one thing, MJ did not have a black face.........and neither do most African Americans.....there are many aspects of Humans that can be emphasized in a costume that doesn't include black-face........Apparently you don't understand the history of Black-Face and Minstral Shows and how they insulted and demeaned the African Americans.........Even if you don't, the Governor of a Southern state should........
Northam was not the Governor of a Southern State when he went to a costume party at a college party 30 plus years ago. He eventually graduated, became a doctor, an Army surgeon in Iraq and a pediatrician. Right or wrong, attitudes were a whole lot different 30 plus years ago versus what they are today. The life he led after graduating from Med School is far more important than antics at a Frat party decades ago. If he is doing an okay job as a Governor, he should stay. People voted him in and they can vote him out after he finishes his terms.

Abracadabra


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
2/3/2019 9:37 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    It seems like the man has lived an honorable life despite the college antics from 30 plus years ago. He absolutely should not resign over that.

    People are going to have different views on the abortion issue. Many of the states are revamping the laws because of concern over a potential supreme court ruling regarding Roe versus Wade. West Virginia has actually tightened the regulations which means that women go across the border to get the procedure done and pay for it themselves.

    Despite the changes, women are not going to be seeking unfettered late term abortions unless something has gone very wrong. There is a case where a young woman died along with her fetus because she declined cancer treatment. Late term abortions can be done if the fetus is not viable or unlikely to survive birth. This is a decision between the doctor and the mother versus the mother and the government.

    Abortions are like guns. Outlawing them is not going to stop people from having them.
I agree with you on the abortion thing......I spent 6 months in the ICU of a large city children's hospital with my baby daughter....The nurses were over-extended and I asked if I could help. I started by just cuddling the babies,then feeding them, then feeding the ones with feeding tubes and other special needs. I got to know a lot about sick babies in general.

Medical practice has changed rapidly, especially our ability to keep people alive with life-support technology. We got so good at it that a situation developed that we never had before. We can now sustain indefinitely, the life of someone in a vegetative state. The ethics had always been to keep Humans alive as long as possible.

As our knowledge and technology improved, the medical community began asking questions about the ethics of extending life as long as possible........under all circumstances. Changes were and are continually being made....Society moves slowly in these areas.....there have been many court cases.

I have worked with children who are vegetative, or almost, who have severe seizures every few minutes.....babies whose heads are so big they will never lift them......children who can't eat or breathe on their own and some who are in severe pain all the time.....The ethics of the recent past required that these children who are destined to live short, non lives should be kept alive as long as possible........This is changing.....Sometimes the severity of the baby's condition isn't detected until close to or after birth. This is what Northam was talking about........He's a doctor who has delivered thousands of babies and is very familiar with the situation.

His mistake is in not understanding his constuent's lack of knowledge and experience and how much they are triggered by the idea of abortion. The black-face incident also shows his inability to understand his position and his constituents.......like Liszt says.....he keeps stepping on it. Maybe he would better serve the people as an educator.
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sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
2/3/2019 9:53 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    Northam was not the Governor of a Southern State when he went to a costume party at a college party 30 plus years ago. He eventually graduated, became a doctor, an Army surgeon in Iraq and a pediatrician. Right or wrong, attitudes were a whole lot different 30 plus years ago versus what they are today. The life he led after graduating from Med School is far more important than antics at a Frat party decades ago. If he is doing an okay job as a Governor, he should stay. People voted him in and they can vote him out after he finishes his terms.
He apologized for the photo ...a long and elaborate apology..., Then, next day, he said it wasn't him ..I'm not saying he's a bad person or doesn't deserve to keep his post., I just think he's made a mess and lost the trust of his constituents.......maybe he could regain it....


kneedtwoplease 68M
1189 posts
2/3/2019 5:56 pm

I'm nobody's moderator, but I have enjoyed reading this blog