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BILL COSBY INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY My today's blog is one where I would like to have your opinions on this particular Topic, "THE BILL COSBY'S CASE". Though I don't know William Henry Cosby Jr. ( Bill Cosby) personally but we have watched nearly all of his TV series, mainly The Cosby Show and I won't deny that we had appreciated it very much. We really waited excitedly for the time of that show on TV because it was eventually a time of laughter, of relaxation with the family, the time where we forgot our daily trend and tiredness of the day, such a humorous time really. Bill Crosby 77 yrs old presently, a well educated man, a very talented comedian, actor, author, television producer, educator, musician and activist, is being accused of sexual assaults and so on nowadays. Whether he is really guilty or not, am not here to judge him neither to exonerate him on all these accusations.. But what spin in my mind : 1- Why such accusations weren't reported on time when/or if really happened? 2- Why now after couple of decades?. 3- Why at that time none of them went to any Hospital to have an evident proof and go to to Police to report the case?. 4- Where is the real proof of each accusation? 5- Why is the media dragging this man so down without a shred of legitimate and verifiable evidence, or even him being charged. all these at a sudden?. This trial by media is outrageous 6- Can $$$ really wash away, clean up and whiten up the dignity of everyone involved?. If there is such tangible proofs then the man is liable to pay dearly for his act but what about if it's otherwise?. After all, is there anyone so clean or cleaner than this man?. If really there is any, may he throw the first stone at him!!. Everyone knows or is aware of such similar cases which have happened before, many have been settled secretly, may be by agreement or by court rule. Whether they were from highly known personalities or just simple human beings but similar facts are still facts, regardless race, color or religion. I hope we can all share our opinions on it and I shall be very glad reading yours too. Thank you so much in anticipation. Lisa.       |
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There are two cases in Canada at the moment that seem to be 'trial by media'. One involves a celebrated radio personality, and the other against two politicians. What a mess!!!
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There are two cases in Canada at the moment that seem to be 'trial by media'. One involves a celebrated radio personality, and the other against two politicians. What a mess!!!
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What someone thinks does not matter to anyone unless such thinking is supported by solid evidence!!
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Delighted to read your comments. Beth is not alone there raising the issue!
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Rockership, Thanks for passing by, leaving your comments which I so appreciate. To feel being judged by the media, is such an horrible thing really. As I said, AS LONG AS THE PERSON HASN'T YET BEEN PROVEN GUILTY BY LAW, then no one should be MORE ROYALIST THAN THE KING!!. If the Law finds him really guilty, eventually he would pay for his faults but NOT BEFORE. This is surely from where the mess comes from. Lisa.
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Tommygunn, When one says: IT LOOKS LIKE; I DON'T THINK THAT; THERE IS PROBABLY;, these are all suppositions but NOT REAL and TANGIBLE PROOFS. We may even conjugate these verbs BUT as long these accusative acts are not proven yet, so he is still innocent until proven contrary and should not only be judged on words!!. I really wonder if you have the real proof of evidence too, upon which you may prove it !!. Simple Lisa.
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looklook..... No, the men involved in the Canadian scandals do not have African origins.
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Ya_Ya dear, I appreciate very much your comments, at least I've found someone now to be neutral, just as I am but I'm only asking a few vital questions which have not yet been answered. Ya_Ya dear, let's wait and see, if with real proofs at hand, the man should be found guilty and will be punished accordingly but what about otherwise?. Ya_Ya just watch it out, plz. Thank you. Lisa.
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You are supposed to know that a person is considered innocent until the person is proven guilty in a proper court of law mister!! But not either by a media trial or by what someone thinks about the person !! You should once again read the blog of Beth if you have time. Anyway, you are entitled to your views. I have no problem with that.
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Looklook hi, Am so delighted reading your comments on here, thanks indiscriminately for them. Being just a simple but thoughtful person, you are eventually on the same wave band as me. I myself would never condemn anyone in such a case without any proof of evidence unless I just want to destroy the reputation and life of such a person and as I said "UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY", not by the Media or by only hear-say but by evident proofs. And I will stand tall on my questions and opinion as long as I don't get any plausible reply to them. I don't depend on Hear say!! Thanks again Looklook. Lisa
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There are two cases in Canada at the moment that seem to be 'trial by media'. One involves a celebrated radio personality, and the other against two politicians. What a mess!!! “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.”
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Beth, every word you have written in your blog and your responses to others I agree with 100 percent. You speak like you understand the Constitution of the United States more than some Americas, This is sad to me because we have so many serious problems in America because of the lack of knowledge of the constitution. I could post volumes on this subject but that would not be respectful to your blog. Thank you lady for it. . The beginning of life, conception..
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The issue is not whether any of these people are innocent or guilty, but that it is for a court to hear the evidence and decide.
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Was my post deleted?
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Looklook hi, Am so delighted reading your comments on here, thanks indiscriminately for them. Being just a simple but thoughtful person, you are eventually on the same wave band as me. I myself would never condemn anyone in such a case without any proof of evidence unless I just want to destroy the reputation and life of such a person and as I said "UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY", not by the Media or by only hear-say but by evident proofs. And I will stand tall on my questions and opinion as long as I don't get any plausible reply to them. I don't depend on Hear say!! Thanks again Looklook. Lisa looklook
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As far as I know, the lady who has submitted the blog is a neutral person. What she has said on her blog is an eternal truth. Nether she nor anyone who came out in support of her cause ever uttered that he is perfectly clean! Beth has repeatedly explained her point. So did I.What you have said or inferred about him is available in your posts. I have nothing to add in this respect. As i said in my earlier response to you that you are entitled to your views. I do not mind for your voicing it. No one here seems to want agreeable comments.So you could not possibly disappoint anyone!!!
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Since those are your views, I have nothing to say here accept that a proper court of law if finds a person ,according to evidences placed before such court, as not guilty, then.the Judge/Jury declare the person as not guilty which actually tantamount to declare the person as innocent !! Let us forget for once the technicality.if any. that may be involved here!!
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I do not recollect having used the word or some thing else nearly like it initially on any of my posts on this blog of Beth except on your post to make my point more clear. The word "technically" was used by you to explain your views and therefore it makes no sense to waste time and space here for telling me that it is not your view or it is an universally accepted doctrine.
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12/7/2014 1:10 am |
Hi Beth: Women are r*ped all the time and don't report it, probably because they don't want any more stress or have to get involved with the police, defence lawyers, judges, a courtroom, and a jury. But when a young woman is drugged and r*ped by a multi-millionaire famous celebrity, she has to be aware that to save his career and reputation he will probably accuse her of lying and extortion and her picture will probably be all over the news. More shame, more stress. My heart goes out to all those poor women drugged and r*ped by Bill Cosby. How courageous they are to stand up for themselves now.
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I do not believe that I am making the communication confusing at all. As it is not my (neither yours)blog, we have no right to waste time and space of someone else who has spoken her mind very clearly. Henceforth, your post, if any addressed to me here, will be ignored totally by me.
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Rainydayz: Thanks for passing by, leaving your point of view. May I ask you the following: CAN ANY FIRE TAKE OFF WITHOUT ANY IGNITION, WITHOUT ANY FUELING OF ANY SORT!!??, Remember: IT TAKES TWO TO TANGO!!. Enjoy your weekend Lisa.
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Tommygunn, Welcome to my blog and thanks for your visit and comments as well. I have not insisted that the man is INNONENT as such, as I stated in my blog that it is the duty of the Court and the Jury to JUDGE him and NOT THE MEDIA which has not the real potential to judge any case at all whatever it's gravity and moreover as none has any evidence of the incident. Let us be clear on it and as I also mentioned, I welcome all the others' views. Each one may have a different opinion of his own, it's just a kind of a friendly debate or argument, if you want but with no GRUDGE or Hate as well. We are all just friendly discussing the matter and leaving the Rightful Law to take action in this case. Neither of us is in the right position to judge him when we cannot judge ourselves. Am glad reading your opinion too as well as all the others. Disappointment should not be felt in such discussion and I didn't expect at all that all comments would be in favor or against , it's a matter of free opinion. Thank you and have a joyful coming week. Lisa.
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Gasi, You're always welcome to my blog as usual. Thank you so much for your wonderful comments. Am glad that you have understood well the context of my present blog. I am not here to neither judge the man nor to condemn him cause there is a Court which is a legal Institution to do this. If he will be found guilty he will pay for his act but The Media, which is not a Legal body, should not judge him in advance without any proven evidence and only oh hear-say. I have just posted my own opinion on this case and each one is free to comments as good seems to them. The Law is the same here in my country and as far as I know, in many others as well. Than you again for your participation Gasi, have a nice coming week Best wishes to all of you. Lisa.
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Lizttomania, Am so delighted reading you again on my blog, thank you so much for your visit and your opinion and comments too. What they are doing to the man, who till now have not been found guilty yet, is just tarnishing his reputation and crucifying him before legal judgement. Which is really unfair. I have not declared him innocent as such but we should just allow the The Court of Law to do the legal necessity and whatever comes out, the man will have to face it but not before. Thanks again Lizt, wishing you and your family, a bright coming week. Lisa.
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Lulugravy. Thanks again for visiting my blog and leaving your self opinion on the matter. I don't disagree totally with your point of view BUT Lulu, I do have a well and good Working Brain too and I am a quite well educated person also. Whatever might have been paid off in the past, it was not the first time and only time that such thing happened, whether in Public or in Stealthily, it surely won't be the last in the history as well as you should know. I wonder also why these women had only interests in such Rich, Famous and Powerful man, as you mentioned!!!, there must be also a reason for it. I wasn't born yesterday from the first rain too!!. This Psychology which you said, should not be only after the wrong has been done BUT should also be considered BEFORE collaborating for such act and REMEMBER Lulu, it takes two to tango!!. I do think you lack the understanding of Psychology more than me. Psychology effects do not happen ONLY decades after the wrong has been done but it has also a part to play BEFORE the event too. When the feelings of being with such personalities availed!!, for a reason or another only known to these supposedly victims, whatever fame, excitements or........else. Psychology plays in every sense in life, not only when one claims to be a victim. I wouldn't take as evidence the hear and say. And no one should be condemned on this too. Whether one knew/knows that about The Limitation of Statute or not but surely if it's even over the time due, one just tries as Hope in.... doesn't kill!!. Thanks again Lulu and have a nice coming week. Lisa.
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