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Skariff2 67M
4317 posts
10/22/2019 9:49 am
Finally, the system is beginning to work again.


The tide is turning slowly, but surely. Even Senate Republicans are now beginning see the dishonesty and ineptness of the Trump Administration is doing more harm than good our beloved nation. The Syria matter seems have been the straw which strained, if not broke, the camel's bac President Trump's collusion with Ukraine gives even more credibility the Mueller Report and the true colors of a man incapable of rational decisions.

There is, however, the remaining 30%. Tough to convince folks intellectually attached to a dunce that their wagon is hooked to a falling star. Call it pride, call it an inability to admit failure or call it a genuine belief in this still unproven individual, the fact remains we are beginning a slide down the proverbial slippery slope and President Trump's removal from office may very well be our last chance to put the brakes on our slide.

Statistics prove my position to be correct, but facts have never been sufficient to demonstrate to the president's loyal followers he is leading them into the jaws of Cerberus. The adamancy which these loyal supporters have garnered seems unbreakable since most of them have been waiting a lifetime for a president who speaks words they have wanted to hear since dinner table discussions.

It's time folks. It's time to put away the personal hatred against a candidate who has now finally been freed of the legal processes against her, much to the chagrin of the loser's supporters. It's time to realize the President is lying to you. It's time to at least begin thinking of restoring the United States to her previous status and stop walking around with physical proof of Peyronie's Disease and start working toward a better nation.

Prejudice cannot be conquered with logic, logic didn't instill it and logic cannot eradicate it.


Skariff2 67M
2926 posts
10/22/2019 9:50 am

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Prejudice cannot be conquered with logic, logic didn't instill it and logic cannot eradicate it.


bijou649 70F
786 posts
10/22/2019 11:53 am

When you see how Trump is constantly insulting and trying to intimidate anyone who dares to say a word against him, i.e. the Whistleblower and Adam Schiff, no wonder there are so many who see what harm he is doing but they're too afraid of antagonizing him to speak up against him. This is how bullies get away with terrorizing people….FEAR of becoming his next victim.


LeafReport 68M
2474 posts
10/22/2019 2:18 pm

The loyal following isn't so much my concern anymore. It is Trump's insiders, his cabinet, political appointees, republican party operatives and lawmakers unwilling to confront reality out of a sad and perverse sinister motive that fails to put the nation first. The system may be barely working but you're right...it is working, for now.


sparkleflit 72F
5224 posts
10/22/2019 4:12 pm

Listening to Trump's press-monologue at the recent cabinet meeting, I wonder how the Trump supporters view what seems his obviously unsound mental state. How do they justify their support of this madman?.......


bigblock46 73M
9816 posts
10/23/2019 4:27 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Listening to Trump's press-monologue at the recent cabinet meeting, I wonder how the Trump supporters view what seems his obviously unsound mental state. How do they justify their support of this madman?.......
I wake up every morning...sip my coffee and watch Democrats and liberals cry, whine and stomp their feet over an election they lost 3 years ago. Then I get to watch Trump do more for hard working Americans in 3 years while being attacked by the Swamp, Democrats and RINOs and their media lapdogs ...than Big Ears did in 8 while they all lapped up his empty rhetoric like cult worshipers. Life is good.


jiminycricket1 69M
11250 posts
10/23/2019 6:15 am

There is not doubt the more absurd something seems.. The less likely it can be thought of as the truth. This all began with the absurdity that Trump was an agent for the Russian government.. I did not believed that absurdity too..It was a jump to the moon..
It was an accusation that almost all of Us dismissed. Those who believed that that accusation was entirely political would no longer believe any accusation against Trump as non-political.
Those that opposed Trump also dismissed it.. and put it back into the Normal politics of the country. As it related to issues.
Which was the point all along for the Manchurian Candidate to separate the parts, so the whole could not be determined. So that we could argue about what the the left hand was doing, to avoid seeing what the right hand was doing.
WE KNOW Trump is hiding something..That's worth a whole bunch of LIES to protect ONE BIG TRUTH

This week was the final straw for me..The absurdity of Trump being a Russian agent...Now it is no longer an absurdity to me.. there's been numerous indicators before, but nothing like this.
We have totally missed what the right hand was doing in regards to the Ukraine and Syria..
Ukraine became about Biden, Russian interference, Political advantage, Constitutionality, criminal activity and corruption.. All within the realm of our own issues. What we are missing.. is the leverage.. both it's applications and it's specifics. At the base of it.. Was the fact that Trump didn't want to help the Ukraine. In the base specifics it was a Corruption for ARMS..In the application it was a test of leverage..Leverage to be used in the future, you want our help you got to do this?.. All to advance Russian interest..
I say that because The Ukraine can do Nothing to advance America interests, the Ukraine, specifically, can not protect our National security..so , in reality the Ukraine means nothing to Us.. But it does mean something to Russia.

Again the left hand distracts US from what the right hand is doing

Syria is even more obvious..Getting the troops out of Syria, the reason? Turkey is our ally, the reason? We don't owe the Kurds anything, the reason?
Trump in his business dealing had no problem "stiffing" his subcontractors when the job was done. Well, he's now stiffing the "Kurds"...Why? Well the job is done.. and the payment needed to be a Kurdish autonomous region..Trump didn't buy into that one.. It was Something nobody, but the Kurds, in the region wanted. Something that Trump saw as not profitable in the doing.. but very profitable in the selling them out. The Kurds were the ONLY Muslim people that did not conform OR were not complicit.to the Jihad, the caliphate, or religious Islamic Rule.. The Kurds.. like some Americans, had too many enemies, too few friends, no assets, no security interest.. They could do nothing for Trump.. but get him in trouble..
Anyway that what Trump's left hand was doing.
While Trump's right hand was serving the Russians.. It worked out PERFECT for them..
I just see that .. as the way a "Manchurian Candidate"..would go about the business of serving a foreign government.


jiminycricket1 69M
11250 posts
10/23/2019 6:38 am

So let me ask.. What do YOU think a Manchurian candidate would do as president.?. How would a Manchurian candidate act? What would a Manchurian Candidate say?

I say it's Exactly..what Trump is doing... I find few alternative to the way he could act, do, or say..

All the the things Trump's opponents say he is....Narcissistic, elitist, racist, fascist, crazy, stupid, unhinged, and pathological Liar.. is NOW the absurdity, the political monster, of a President...To which destruction is the plan, and done so without benefit.
He's the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.. You don't judge each thing he does to our detriment... You judge them to HIS BENEFIT.. when you cant' see any BENEFIT to what he's doing... He's BENEFITING someone else...
If you actually try to dissect it..you come to the conclusion that besides the possibility of emoluments...Trump get NO benefit by what he does. he's treading water for as long as he can.


jiminycricket1 69M
11250 posts
10/23/2019 6:59 am

We worry about Trump pushing the BUTTON.. We worry about the things Trump will do... if not re-elected. the different things he could do to 'damage US...
Well let me tell YOU..What he's going to do.. I guarantee it.
Trump is going to Sink this ECONOMY.."The Final Chaos".....you can't see it he's doing the slow road, and hiding it...But when the time comes, the race will become...The "Indy Fortune 500"... Why? First, as self-justification, revenge, and to blame the Liberals, and second.. It's what Russia wants...


Katie_au_lait 73F
6748 posts
10/23/2019 7:50 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    We worry about Trump pushing the BUTTON.. We worry about the things Trump will do... if not re-elected. the different things he could do to 'damage US...
    Well let me tell YOU..What he's going to do.. I guarantee it.
    Trump is going to Sink this ECONOMY.."The Final Chaos".....you can't see it he's doing the slow road, and hiding it...But when the time comes, the race will become...The "Indy Fortune 500"... Why? First, as self-justification, revenge, and to blame the Liberals, and second.. It's what Russia wants...


sparkleflit 72F
5224 posts
10/23/2019 8:39 am

    Quoting bigblock46:
    I wake up every morning...sip my coffee and watch Democrats and liberals cry, whine and stomp their feet over an election they lost 3 years ago. Then I get to watch Trump do more for hard working Americans in 3 years while being attacked by the Swamp, Democrats and RINOs and their media lapdogs ...than Big Ears did in 8 while they all lapped up his empty rhetoric like cult worshipers. Life is good.
Ignorance is bliss.......


jiminycricket1 69M
11250 posts
10/23/2019 12:42 pm

We think we know what HE is doing...Spreading division and racism..Income inequality..Lies, isolationist foreign policy...Destroying our democracy..
We see each thing as it's own little plan..

The problem with people is they only see what they want and Not what they have..

All the so-called issues we talk about.....are about what we want, are about what we can do.. but what's happens when it becomes evident ..YOU CAN"T DO IT

All the things Trump does is about WINNING..
The fall of every Great , wealthiest, country was perpetrated by two things. First by the rest of world wanting to bring them down, and take what they had... Second their failure to see what they had..and exposing what they had, by wanting more, and their sense of entitlement..

We know the parts of what Trump is trying to do. but you see Trump doesn't care about the parts.. He and Russia care about the whole kit and kaboodle. Their success is not in winning an inning.. but winning the ballgame.

Well in Trump's world and in Putin's world there is only one factor that can effect it all..That is wealth.. And wealth is translated to the economy. And a 'bad economy, translates into.division, racism, income inequality, isolationism, Lies, and the destruction of our DEMOCRACY.

All the things the Democrats talk about, only have meaning if we have wealth. And Democrats think our wealth grows on trees.. Well Trump and Russia are going to fix that..When they cut down the trees.. Then See if all that shit the liberals talk about, will mean something to them.. It will be like asking the homeless to give up their home. The hungry to give up their food. the rag tags.. to give up their rags. The cold to give up their warmth. Without wealth, when you ask people about Democracy.. They will say WTF? is that.