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Skariff2 66M
4435 posts
1/26/2019 1:12 am
Not yet, but getting closer


I still remain ignorant of the details known to Mueller and not to the general public, but the last month has not been a good one for the President. Yesterday, January 25, 2019 has been particularly devastating for him. Every right winger who has and continues to support this miscreant shares in the damage done to our nation is as responsible as President Trump. It is inescapable. I have been warning about this undying loyalty for some time now and it is finally coming home to roost. The words I see here and the childish, nonsensical memes I see on face bk condemn forever those right wingers who refuse to admit the error of their ways to anti-American activity. President Trump has never been able, either intellectually or educationally, to grasp the concept of national leadership and the responsibilities inherent therein.

Until now the President has not experienced the concept of checks and balances and that, too, has come home to roost. Suddenly he is caving in rather than bragging about non-existent accomplishments. The ultracrepidarians who have struggled for two years justifying Trump leadership are even more angry now and their hatred is becoming more and more prominent. It just might be time to reconsider their position, but hubris and hatred prevent that much common sense. The right wing senators and congressmen have fallen noticeably silent, but the right wing blogs here seem to continue on in futility.


Prejudice cannot be conquered with logic, logic didn't instill it and logic cannot eradicate it.


Skariff2 66M
2819 posts
1/26/2019 1:12 am

,,,

Prejudice cannot be conquered with logic, logic didn't instill it and logic cannot eradicate it.


earthytaurus3 78F
39015 posts
1/26/2019 2:47 am

Every time I'm hopeful and excited about closure, it blows up in my face. I have learned to never, never, ever to underestimate the dirty tricks the opposition party hold close to their chests.


LeafReport 68M
1265 posts
1/26/2019 3:21 am

This is so far from a Witch-Hunt I now laugh when I hear Trump or some of his supporters use the phrase. Thirty-five people are now caught up in this with several facing prison and if you add the resignations of appointees and career civil servants you still only scrape the surface of what we are talking about here. This has been a coordinated attack on the country from American subversives for some time and some of them invited the Russians into this and damage is deepening daily. Just last night I learned of yet another shocking reality. Adam Schiff, Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee has publicly stated his intention to release official transcripts to Mueller. I have been wondering why this hadn't been done almost immediately after the new congress was sworn in. Clearly the refusal of the committee to do this under republican control was obstruction, in my view, and I believe GOP congressman Devin Nunes is complicit in a coordinated cover-up here. How that gets untangled I do not know...but he was involved with the transition team and his bizarre statements, committee leadership and even his personal behavior raise deep concerns already.

Anyway, what I learned is that the Intelligence Committee cannot refer the transcripts to Mueller until republicans appoint members to the committee. They haven't appointed anybody!!! Many, many, many other committees have been staffed. This is OBSTRUCTION...and it is SUBVERSIVE. This should alarm the country....we're talking about the INTELLIGENCE committee here...not Indian Affairs. This needs to be HEADLINE NEWS with CONSTANT MEDIA HOUNDING of the House GOP leadership until this happens. What is going on here? I'm wondering, a LOT, exactly who among the GOP caucus is even available for those appointments...and I'm wondering what their record actually is. Let that sink in...just how big is the CANCER in the congress?

We are watching the biggest scandal in American history unfold...and I think this thing has the potential to spiral out of control beyond belief. Mueller has to stay on the job as long as it takes and uncover all of it. Those investigations that are lurking in the shadows have to take center stage. Curing cancer is a painful endeavor for sure, and we just might be facing it. Don't be surprised to see other high profile cabinet resignations no later than spring. I don't think anybody wants to get out at the wrong time..but they surely have to be looking for an exit ram


LeafReport 68M
1265 posts
1/26/2019 3:43 am

Further, I most certainly agree with your characterization here. I long ago abandoned attempts to intellectually engage with those people. It is far worse here than it actually is in the public domain. But it's certainly not a pretty picture out there either as you say. Social media does expose a lot of it. The perplexing part of all this is the willing ignorance these people embrace. There is no appreciation for analysis, or history, or moral foundations. No appreciation for urgency, or patience, or vision. It's hard to describe. It's like a living breathing 'blob' of something wandering the streets.

I appreciate your commentary. It's a rare example of rational communication. I hardly have the patience for it anymore.


bigblock46 73M
8714 posts
1/26/2019 5:40 am

: "The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors".

AS Alan Dershowitz noted, however, the fact that Stone's alleged crimes were generated by the Mueller probe does not make them any less criminal.

"But it really means that there's been a failure to uncover the basic crimes for which he was appointed. Namely, before he was appointed, was there illegal collusion, illegal conspiracy with Russia?"

As I understood it Mueller was appointed to find "collusion" between the Russians and the Trump campaign.

I am more alarmed that the FBI with a SWAT team raided Stone's home in the arly morning hours to arrest him on the lame charges of obstruction, making false statements and witness tampering and having CNN present to film it? This is stuff that happens in fascist run dictatorships. Next year, you had better VOTE, DONATE AND VOLUNTEER FOR REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES or else this bana republic resistance is going to take root and the America you know will be more like Venezuela. VOTE or die!!!


LeafReport 68M
1265 posts
1/26/2019 6:30 am

    Quoting bigblock46:
    : "The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors".

    AS Alan Dershowitz noted, however, the fact that Stone's alleged crimes were generated by the Mueller probe does not make them any less criminal.

    "But it really means that there's been a failure to uncover the basic crimes for which he was appointed. Namely, before he was appointed, was there illegal collusion, illegal conspiracy with Russia?"

    As I understood it Mueller was appointed to find "collusion" between the Russians and the Trump campaign.

    I am more alarmed that the FBI with a SWAT team raided Stone's home in the arly morning hours to arrest him on the lame charges of obstruction, making false statements and witness tampering and having CNN present to film it? This is stuff that happens in fascist run dictatorships. Next year, you had better VOTE, DONATE AND VOLUNTEER FOR REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES or else this bana republic resistance is going to take root and the America you know will be more like Venezuela. VOTE or die!!!
Moronic...and unbelievable.


hiramhankwilliam 95M
3630 posts
1/26/2019 6:52 am

not at all moronic. and please learn that it is believable . you and the owner of this blog as well as the liberal left wingers are the real criminals .
after 2 years mueller is no closer than he was at the start to getting any thing on trump.

as for getting close, close is only relevant in grenades.

you live in lal la land. grow up and face reality.

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


LeafReport 68M
1265 posts
1/26/2019 8:14 am

    Quoting hiramhankwilliam:
    not at all moronic. and please learn that it is believable . you and the owner of this blog as well as the liberal left wingers are the real criminals .
    after 2 years mueller is no closer than he was at the start to getting any thing on trump.

    as for getting close, close is only relevant in grenades.

    you live in lal la land. grow up and face reality.
It is quite obvious you have not read the indictment. You're a moron as well.


hiramhankwilliam 95M
3630 posts
1/26/2019 10:45 am

well unless it happened while I was preparing breakfast I have not heard trump was in dicted.
now if u are drooling over cohen etc it aint there. there is no evidence of and thing directly in volving trump.

as for me being a moron. I think you should seek the definition. your endless blog show you are lost in the wilderness.

please post where trump has been indicted . don't ramble on about this person n that person.

post the indictment in it original form with original wording.

oh yes, stop getting info from super market "news" sources like buzz feed .

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


bigblock46 73M
8714 posts
1/26/2019 11:29 am

Just another Mueller "nothing burger". Mueller "pit bull" Andrew Weissmann could write a report about you giving your mother a nice Christmas present -- and make it sound like a federal criminal offense, He is also known as a master manipulator of the media. Weissmann forcefully prosecuted employees of the Arthur Andersen Accounting firm during the Enron litigation, in which the firm's obstruction of justice conviction was unanimously overturned by the Supreme Court.


hiramhankwilliam 95M
3630 posts
1/26/2019 11:51 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    It is quite obvious you have not read the indictment. You're a moron as well.
first , allow me to aolpogize to the owner of this blog for a second post.
even being a moron I have some manners. ty for indulgence .

unlike most/ many of the left. i allow my self, asa hard right conservative, to read even the leftist of the left "news" sites.

i have taken the liberty to answer my own question and post here for your purusal .

this is c/p from msn main page.

this is the lead set of paragiraffs .

please note the words I placed in quotation marks.

this summation has been the conclusion from each and ever "indictment and or arrest, and or early morning raid by mueller and his brown shirts.

btw, cnn was present fir the raid and arrest of stone.

fyi. stone was indicted on a white color "crime"

the normal process on these types of indictments is for the person being indicted"attorney to be contacted and ask that his client turn him self in at an agreed upon time.

he is and was not a flight risk.

I think the words here, most bang for the buck, plus cnn being only one there.

WASHINGTON — The Russia investigation snared another associate of President Donald Trump with the arrest of self-described political "dirty trickster" Roger Stone.

The charges brought by special counsel Robert Mueller reveal new details about how the Trump campaign sought to benefit from the release of hacked material damaging to Hillary Clinton.

"""But they don't definitively answer the key question in the Russia probe: Did the Trump campaign coordinate with Russia's efforts to sway the 2016 election?"""

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


hiramhankwilliam 95M
3630 posts
1/26/2019 11:55 am

    Quoting bigblock46:
    Just another Mueller "nothing burger". Mueller "pit bull" Andrew Weissmann could write a report about you giving your mother a nice Christmas present -- and make it sound like a federal criminal offense, He is also known as a master manipulator of the media. Weissmann forcefully prosecuted employees of the Arthur Andersen Accounting firm during the Enron litigation, in which the firm's obstruction of justice conviction was unanimously overturned by the Supreme Court.
good comment. glad to have you back. I hope you are doing well

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


Skariff2 66M
2819 posts
1/26/2019 11:58 am

Unless you have specific knowledge and information neither of you right wingers are aware of what Mueller knows and what he doesn't. I'm not sure who you think you're fooling but it surely sounds more like ignorance than knowledge. If you actually know, citing your sources would be the proof I need to believe you. Apparently you can spew out misinformation with impunity, but others must prove their words to be true. Either start producing sources or stop requiring other to do so.

Prejudice cannot be conquered with logic, logic didn't instill it and logic cannot eradicate it.


hiramhankwilliam 95M
3630 posts
1/26/2019 12:55 pm

    Quoting Skariff2:
    Unless you have specific knowledge and information neither of you right wingers are aware of what Mueller knows and what he doesn't. I'm not sure who you think you're fooling but it surely sounds more like ignorance than knowledge. If you actually know, citing your sources would be the proof I need to believe you. Apparently you can spew out misinformation with impunity, but others must prove their words to be true. Either start producing sources or stop requiring other to do so.
SIR, may I beg your pardon.

you posted the original. there in, you danced around trying to say trump was doomed to be indicted/arrested/ tried/ and convicted.

another blogger did the same. each of you lacing your comment with wishful thinking.

your co/heart , posted …..

i"t is quite obvious you have not read the indictment. You're a moron as well."

i axed him or her to provide where the stone indictement showed that trump was indicted and or complict.

he failed to do so after i axed.

there fore i fount and posted that msn had noted that there was/were

""But they don't definitively answer the key question in the Russia probe: Did the Trump campaign coordinate with Russia's efforts to sway the 2016 election?""

SIR , both axed the source and provided my own answer. you should be happy.

once again, hope wishiing aint gunna get it.

after nearly 2 years and bro mueller aint fount nuthin yet.

wonder how he was fbi director.

by that i means, seems the left and anti trump folks thought it was gunna be aslam dunk/

buy the way.you and your fellwo blogger really should be getting involved with t a canidate to slam mango in 2020.there are so many.

trashing trump and right wingers aint gunna get mango defeated.

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


Skariff2 66M
2819 posts
1/26/2019 4:51 pm

    Quoting hiramhankwilliam:
    SIR, may I beg your pardon.

    you posted the original. there in, you danced around trying to say trump was doomed to be indicted/arrested/ tried/ and convicted.

    another blogger did the same. each of you lacing your comment with wishful thinking.

    your co/heart , posted …..

    i"t is quite obvious you have not read the indictment. You're a moron as well."

    i axed him or her to provide where the stone indictement showed that trump was indicted and or complict.

    he failed to do so after i axed.

    there fore i fount and posted that msn had noted that there was/were

    ""But they don't definitively answer the key question in the Russia probe: Did the Trump campaign coordinate with Russia's efforts to sway the 2016 election?""

    SIR , both axed the source and provided my own answer. you should be happy.

    once again, hope wishiing aint gunna get it.

    after nearly 2 years and bro mueller aint fount nuthin yet.

    wonder how he was fbi director.

    by that i means, seems the left and anti trump folks thought it was gunna be aslam dunk/

    buy the way.you and your fellwo blogger really should be getting involved with t a canidate to slam mango in 2020.there are so many.

    trashing trump and right wingers aint gunna get mango defeated.
You have no clue as to what you're talking about. You embarrass yourself trying trying to explain a position you neither have nor can describe.

Prejudice cannot be conquered with logic, logic didn't instill it and logic cannot eradicate it.


CarolinaPanthera 57F
2612 posts
1/26/2019 5:41 pm

    Quoting hiramhankwilliam:
    SIR, may I beg your pardon.

    you posted the original. there in, you danced around trying to say trump was doomed to be indicted/arrested/ tried/ and convicted.

    another blogger did the same. each of you lacing your comment with wishful thinking.

    your co/heart , posted …..

    i"t is quite obvious you have not read the indictment. You're a moron as well."

    i axed him or her to provide where the stone indictement showed that trump was indicted and or complict.

    he failed to do so after i axed.

    there fore i fount and posted that msn had noted that there was/were

    ""But they don't definitively answer the key question in the Russia probe: Did the Trump campaign coordinate with Russia's efforts to sway the 2016 election?""

    SIR , both axed the source and provided my own answer. you should be happy.

    once again, hope wishiing aint gunna get it.

    after nearly 2 years and bro mueller aint fount nuthin yet.

    wonder how he was fbi director.

    by that i means, seems the left and anti trump folks thought it was gunna be aslam dunk/

    buy the way.you and your fellwo blogger really should be getting involved with t a canidate to slam mango in 2020.there are so many.

    trashing trump and right wingers aint gunna get mango defeated.
"after nearly 2 years and bro mueller aint fount nuthin yet."

In the loop are ya? Did Mueller share this information with you himself? Or did it come from State TV?

You're nothing more than a foolish, and delusional old man.


hiramhankwilliam 95M
3630 posts
1/26/2019 10:03 pm

    Quoting CarolinaPanthera:
    "after nearly 2 years and bro mueller aint fount nuthin yet."

    In the loop are ya? Did Mueller share this information with you himself? Or did it come from State TV?

    You're nothing more than a foolish, and delusional old man.


well, ifu read you can see trump has not been charged with any thing yet.

mueller has yet to find any thing nearly close to an indictment.

uh i mean again trump, ivanka, jared, etc etc.

fringe players are the latest of the indictments.

i might ask u and mueller where is the so called evidence linking trump to any thing indictable or even evidence of activity deemed criminal .

2 years , soon. trumps demise is only wishful thinking for u and your brethren

work hard for kamala,i slept with eveyone to get where i am, harris she is a sho in

may I be old, yes mam. delusional ?? hide and watch.

DEATH IS A CERTAIN, ETERNITY IS A CHOICE


earthytaurus3 78F
39015 posts
1/27/2019 3:54 am

Quoting Hank : "work hard for kamala,i slept with eveyone to get where i am, harris she is a sho in" …………

I can see you're an early riser in jumping on the band wagon to discredit the horse before it's out of the gate. YOU and BB lead the pack in excusing Trump of any wrong doing while trampling on ANYONE that would call him to account … OR, chance to rise above it all through merit.

While Kamala is new to me and yet to be fully discovered, I don't see that she is aligned with thugs/mobsters of the likes in association with your Guy in the Sky who knows Lucy with diamonds, personally. That alone will give her an edge .. in addition to being well-versed, well-educated/experienced and ambitious. How DARE you suggest she 'screwed' her way to the top'. That comment says more about YOU and the value you place on women, than about HER.

You and Snake are in the same league.


CarolinaPanthera 57F
2612 posts
1/27/2019 12:47 pm

    Quoting hiramhankwilliam:
    well, ifu read you can see trump has not been charged with any thing yet.

    mueller has yet to find any thing nearly close to an indictment.

    uh i mean again trump, ivanka, jared, etc etc.

    fringe players are the latest of the indictments.

    i might ask u and mueller where is the so called evidence linking trump to any thing indictable or even evidence of activity deemed criminal .

    2 years , soon. trumps demise is only wishful thinking for u and your brethren

    work hard for kamala,i slept with eveyone to get where i am, harris she is a sho in

    may I be old, yes mam. delusional ?? hide and watch.
And "ifu read you can see" that Mueller's investigation is far from over.

Like I said before...you're nothing more than a foolish, and delusional old man. I might even go as far to add that you're a foolish, delusional AND ignorant old man.

Who's gonna pay for the wall? Mehico...right?


CarolinaPanthera 57F
2612 posts
1/27/2019 3:00 pm

    Quoting earthytaurus3:
    Quoting Hank : "work hard for kamala,i slept with eveyone to get where i am, harris she is a sho in" …………

    I can see you're an early riser in jumping on the band wagon to discredit the horse before it's out of the gate. YOU and BB lead the pack in excusing Trump of any wrong doing while trampling on ANYONE that would call him to account … OR, chance to rise above it all through merit.

    While Kamala is new to me and yet to be fully discovered, I don't see that she is aligned with thugs/mobsters of the likes in association with your Guy in the Sky who knows Lucy with diamonds, personally. That alone will give her an edge .. in addition to being well-versed, well-educated/experienced and ambitious. How DARE you suggest she 'screwed' her way to the top'. That comment says more about YOU and the value you place on women, than about HER.

    You and Snake are in the same league.