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Archer62 83F
7077 posts
1/16/2018 4:03 am

It was, indeed, a horrendous error from the standpoint of diplomacy. Thinking is one thing, saying that thing out loud is quite another.


GavinLS2 69M
1525 posts
1/16/2018 4:55 am

Nobody really cares, tho some people pretend to.

GBU,

Gavin


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/16/2018 6:19 am

Another distraction?

the use of the word alone, becomes the meaning.....instead of the meaning becoming the context in which the word is used.

He can call African countries and Haiti "shitholes" it doesn't matter. It's an expletive of an opinion. Nobody really cares....Yet it becomes the point of the conversation, and the true point is missed..

The fact is the context it was said... he didn't call the countries "shitholes"... He called the country's people "shitholes" He called called everybody who comes from those countries "shitholes". He doesn't need to be discerning... It easy for him, because, in his mind. we are all "shitholes". Well, he knows... we all have at least have one...
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You see Trump lies.... he's like a puzzle you need to figure out.. there is a method he learned.. in his view of notoriety.......He does it with his lies, then reverses it with "others" truth.. He does it... then accuses others of doing it..
Getting it out there is what matters. not the truth... what he's learned is that a retraction, and truth doesn't even matter.. Once it's out there...

It seems Trump's entire Presidency is about unconnecting the dots...
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jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/16/2018 7:20 am

"Tell that to the DACA kids, who the Democrats are trying to derail a deal on, based on nothing else than perhaps another lie by Dick Durbin.
This is politics at its nastiest, and you are cheering it from the sidelines. "
Maisie..


You are beyond deplorable...... you are reprehensible.
this statement is PURE propaganda... Pure hypocrisy.
Using DACA to try and make a point... that is an out and out lie.

There is ONE issue about DACA... that is to let it stand alone... and vote on it..
but you can do that .. because then you can't USE it. , You can't lie about it, and can't use for it leverage, and propaganda.. You see , here' the fact.. there is NO compromise with DACA. Compromise entails..giving some thing and getting something... You aren't "giving" anything..
The republican control Congress, can do what they want by themselves.. Like the Tax cut for example...
The irony of DACA is amazing.... this one time .. without control... the Democrats DON'T NEED republican votes..Do whatever you want... Just don't pork barrel it.
Pork barreling is THE SWAMP.. buying votes is THE SWAMP

I say DRAIN THE SWAMP... and let's start with YOU.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/16/2018 7:33 am

    Quoting  :

connecting the dots?

Even if they are numbered.. you can't count on it.....

They say........ you can fool some of the people, most of the time.
Most of people, some of the time....
But a fool.......you can fool ....all the time.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
1/16/2018 7:44 am

Trump is a racist.......He always has been, he voices it very often and this last example just reinforces that truth to the whole World.


bijou624

1/16/2018 10:23 am

Just another day in the Trump outhouse. Whatever horrible thing he says or does will make front page news for a couple of days until he will does or says something even worse. No-one can keep track anymore of all the lies, broken promises, hypocrisy, racism, insults. What a poor excuse for a human being.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
1/16/2018 11:00 am

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The whole World is watching your Leader voice his White Supremacist bigotry......He's leading America towards isolation.......He's shedding credibility and respect every day......You may not agree with the opinions of the World and 60%
of America, but pretending it's irrelevant isn't going to ameliorate the situation either.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
1/16/2018 3:54 pm

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Rand Paul says Trump donated to the mission.....He didn't say how much....doesn't mean anything.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/16/2018 4:15 pm

Two things I don't like about people's talk of Trump.

Racism and impeachment.........

In each case the use of the word doesn't do Trump justice. both understatements.

Trump is much worst than a racist.. a racist is specific.... He incorporates much more than racism..for two reasons.. First....it's not about being black.... it's about being against Trump.......Identify yourself as a "group' against Trump and whammo, Trump's becomes a racist.... Second.. it's a statement that infers he cares more about Norwegians than Africans.. It's just not true..he doesn't care about either one of them, Notice what he didn't say.. He didn't say England... he shit's on England, almost as much as Africa..If Norwegians were vocal in being against him ... he would shit on them too.

In each case...... of racism and impeachment...those things really don't matter when compared to the subversion of the truth.
In the standard of human behavior..... there is an agreement racism is a negative word. NO one gets to promotes racism.....that's the truth.
Those who wish to promote racism, are categorically denied.
Trump is the DEVIL.. backdoor man, snake oil salesman.. but not a racist.
He subverts the truth... and he subverts the truth about racism.
It is the subversion, that makes him worse...not the racism..


dusty117 73M

1/16/2018 4:36 pm

Yes just another distraction. Trump has decided it's better to be a bitch than a liar. So drama is the new normal in the White House.

Trump's latest lie referring to his tax bill, "this is going to cost me a fortune" is the big story. It's a classic example of why Trump can't talk to the press and cowers behind a twitter account.

Good job Trump, we're talking about shitholes.


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
1/17/2018 12:10 am

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Do you really think that for donation for 200 people let's him off the hook for denying millions of his own people healthcare? Does it compensate for deporting millions of children? Does it make him a saint while he hands out tax-breaks to the rich and abandons all others?
You won't even type the word shithole...but you are compelled to give him a free pass for doing so?

What a genius!


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
1/17/2018 6:27 am

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The point I was making is that you and rich both excuse Trump for doing and saying things you refuse to excuse others for. unless, of course they, like you, voted for Trump.
To anyone with any belief whatever...that's hypocrisy.

As for SFF terms of use...nobody has been censured for using shithole, so the owners must feel that,if it's ok for your president to use...then it's ok for everyone.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/17/2018 7:43 am

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Again it's all lies..
You and Trump make great lying partners.. Twisted truths, for your own agenda, and for you own ability to victimize people.

"According to data from the Center for Immigration Studies, 73 percent of households are headed by Central American and Mexican "immigrants?""

Households? does that incorporate immigrants, and illegal immigrants? Does that incorporate citizens and non-citizens? What exactly does households mean? And what does that mean in regards to immigration?

How about further breakdowns... like legal immigrants.. like second generation legal immigrants.

Let's also define "welfare programs".. what exactly are those?.. healthcare, food stamps, refundable tax credits, and aid to children?

What is it?... like 11 million households headed by illegals.. Most from Central America or Mexico.

11 million households put under the gun..11 miilion households not given the same opportunities, 11 million household discriminated against. You going to compare those to Asians and Europeans.. legal immigrants?

It's a LIE....

I try to get people to think....Now I don't succeed very often, in talking about it. but sometime things that happen cause people to think.
Before Trump, we were a country divided by race, almost entirely black and white. I could not get people to think about that .. Why that was? Weren't we all Americans, and aren't ALL MEN CREATED EQUAL?
Blacks in this country..talking about it was a lost cause, for me. Victimized in the past because of race, , and victimized today simply by a country divided by race. They couldn't see it.

There is something I see.. that most of you don't....
Hispanics and especially illegals, are the race victims today.
Black who see themselves as having a different color skins... now have to see Brown skin, religious skin, gender skin, sexual orientation skin, and political skin.
All being victimized and in many cases, just like blacks in the past and in some cases, more so than the blacks are currently.
It's a slow process to get people to think, outside their own skin.. but it's all happening thanks to Trump. ...The propaganda of victim against victim, well that's becoming victims for victims... Saving one... will save them all.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/17/2018 8:21 am

How many times have you heard it..... "You're NOT black so you don't know"

The color barrier has been broken....

I'm a white liberal....so I know
I'm a woman... so I know
I'm not Christian....., so I know
I'm an immigrant... so I know
I'm gay..... so I know
I'm Mexican... so I know
I'm Arab and/or Muslim...... so I know
I'm poor.... so I know
I'm not American, I'm Puerto Rican... so I know
I'm an "outsider".. so I know
I'm a victim...... so I know

I'M HUMAN...SO I KNOW!


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/17/2018 8:41 am

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don't you think a silver spoon should know better?

"Nor am I defending the President for his supposed use of the word."

Supposed use of the word.. and your not defending him?
He use it, you denial of it, is defending it.

"In just one speech in New Hampshire, the Republican presidential front runner told cheering supporters that he would “bomb the shit” out of the Islamic State, that “Afghanistan is going to hell,” and that, on trade with China and Mexico, he would “kick their asses.”

As the billionaire developer finished with a silent F-bomb (another profanity he’s shown no qualms about using in the past), the crowd chanted “Trump! Trump! Trump!”"

And of course and "supposedly"... he grabs women by the p*ssy."

Well now... I may be Mr Potty Mouth......but Trump talks from his "shithole"
And for some reason.....to YOU it doesn't stink.