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MrsJoe 71F
10499 posts
1/27/2019 9:52 am

I've heard some liberals try to defend this action by saying it is only to save the life of the mother.......... but at that stage of a pregnancy, why do an abortion that kills the baby? At that point of the pregnancy, induction or a C section would save BOTH lives. Why does the baby have to die?

For me to be upset by your criticism, I must first value your opinion.


bigblock46 73M
8751 posts
1/27/2019 12:03 pm

    Quoting Skariff2:
    There's more to it than saving the mother's life. Allowing the woman to have a choice in what happens to her body is one of them. More importantly, the good folks who profess to be anti- abortion are really anti-birthers. You see, once the child is born its fate is no longer an issue to the folks who originally wanted the baby born. Therefore, adoption and welfare become the means of support for the child and then we hear of the freeloaders living off the fat of the land by the same folks who wanted to bring the child into the world. I hope you see the dichotomy there. So, I think the pro-birthers should be posting methods of caring for the unaborted children rather than condemning those who favor a woman's choice. While I admire your fervor and dedication to a cause I also believe it's important to remember there are usually several issues to consider in any decision.
WE are all pro-choice, I wish the woman would have made her choice before she laid down and spread her legs.


sparkleflit 71F
4189 posts
1/27/2019 1:12 pm

    Quoting bigblock46:
    WE are all pro-choice, I wish the woman would have made her choice before she laid down and spread her legs.
This and many similar comments you have made on this site leads me to the conclusion that you actually believe that all that is required for a woman to become pregnant is to lay down and spread her legs.......


sparkleflit 71F
4189 posts
1/27/2019 1:19 pm

    Quoting Skariff2:
    There's more to it than saving the mother's life. Allowing the woman to have a choice in what happens to her body is one of them. More importantly, the good folks who profess to be anti- abortion are really anti-birthers. You see, once the child is born its fate is no longer an issue to the folks who originally wanted the baby born. Therefore, adoption and welfare become the means of support for the child and then we hear of the freeloaders living off the fat of the land by the same folks who wanted to bring the child into the world. I hope you see the dichotomy there. So, I think the pro-birthers should be posting methods of caring for the unaborted children rather than condemning those who favor a woman's choice. While I admire your fervor and dedication to a cause I also believe it's important to remember there are usually several issues to consider in any decision.
Many of those who are fervently against abortion are the same people who have no problem with children being separated from their parents/families at the border..........Like Mrs. Joe, whose response to has been "so what?" ....


bigblock46 73M
8751 posts
1/27/2019 1:28 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    This and many similar comments you have made on this site leads me to the conclusion that you actually believe that all that is required for a woman to become pregnant is to lay down and spread her legs.......
With out the act its its kinda hard to get pregnant. According to the NY Times incest or @e only account for less than 1% of all the abortions.


CarolinaPanthera 57F
2641 posts
1/27/2019 5:24 pm

    Quoting bigblock46:
    With out the act its its kinda hard to get pregnant. According to the NY Times incest or @e only account for less than 1% of all the abortions.
So, in order for yout 'theory' to work, all women of child bearing age would have to carry a pocket full of semen everywhere they go in case they want to 'lay down, and spread their legs.'


bigblock46 73M
8751 posts
1/27/2019 6:13 pm

Don't be so damn ignorant, You know exactly what I meant.


Rich1937 81M
6408 posts
1/27/2019 6:15 pm

There is no debate, abortion of a baby at birth is murder. People are sacrificing their babies to Molech. What you sow you will reap.

Every one is entitled to his own opinion. Facts are unalterable.


Maisie2013 67F
19149 posts
1/27/2019 7:07 pm

    Quoting Skariff2:
    There's more to it than saving the mother's life. Allowing the woman to have a choice in what happens to her body is one of them. More importantly, the good folks who profess to be anti- abortion are really anti-birthers. You see, once the child is born its fate is no longer an issue to the folks who originally wanted the baby born. Therefore, adoption and welfare become the means of support for the child and then we hear of the freeloaders living off the fat of the land by the same folks who wanted to bring the child into the world. I hope you see the dichotomy there. So, I think the pro-birthers should be posting methods of caring for the unaborted children rather than condemning those who favor a woman's choice. While I admire your fervor and dedication to a cause I also believe it's important to remember there are usually several issues to consider in any decision.
It's not a " choice". It is a living breathing human being who can survive on its own, outside the womb. Odd that the same people who are good with murdering babies are opposed to the death penalty, don't want a puppy mistreated, or a cow slaughtered for food.


Maisie2013 67F
19149 posts
1/27/2019 7:16 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Many of those who are fervently against abortion are the same people who have no problem with children being separated from their parents/families at the border..........Like Mrs. Joe, whose response to has been "so what?" ....
Talk to the liberal Democrats about that one. There used to be family detention centers, keeping the entire family together while their asylum claim was adjudicated. It was liberal judge who decided you cannot keep children in a facility with adults who have been arrested from entering the country illegally.
In other words, in order to keep the family unit together, we can either put children in adult detention centers (unthinkable), put adults in child detention centers (unthinkable), or hold no one, which means “catch and release,” which means letting even more illegal immigrants loose to live in our country illegally.

If an American citizen breaks the law and is funneled into the justice system, he is separated from his family and children. This American citizen is not allowed to keep his family with him in a detention center.
Once again, our media want illegal aliens to enjoy special rights and privileges American citizens do not enjoy. Or maybe you would like to sentence the entire family for a crime a parent committed?


Maisie2013 67F
19149 posts
1/27/2019 7:24 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Many of those who are fervently against abortion are the same people who have no problem with children being separated from their parents/families at the border..........Like Mrs. Joe, whose response to has been "so what?" ....
Under Obama, when illegal border crossers were put into the criminal justice system, families were indeed separated. Neither Democrats nor the media cared about family separation then.


Rentier2 74M
335 posts
1/28/2019 4:47 am

    Quoting Rich1937:
    There is no debate, abortion of a baby at birth is murder. People are sacrificing their babies to Molech. What you sow you will reap.
Does that include fetuses resulting from s#xual assault or ince$t?

Some conservatives make exceptions for these cases.

I have never understood the logic of that.

It's not the fault of the fetus.
If every life is sacred, then these should be as well.


sparkleflit 71F
4189 posts
1/28/2019 8:39 am

    Quoting Maisie2013:
    Talk to the liberal Democrats about that one. There used to be family detention centers, keeping the entire family together while their asylum claim was adjudicated. It was liberal judge who decided you cannot keep children in a facility with adults who have been arrested from entering the country illegally.
    In other words, in order to keep the family unit together, we can either put children in adult detention centers (unthinkable), put adults in child detention centers (unthinkable), or hold no one, which means “catch and release,” which means letting even more illegal immigrants loose to live in our country illegally.

    If an American citizen breaks the law and is funneled into the justice system, he is separated from his family and children. This American citizen is not allowed to keep his family with him in a detention center.
    Once again, our media want illegal aliens to enjoy special rights and privileges American citizens do not enjoy. Or maybe you would like to sentence the entire family for a crime a parent committed?
I see, so blaming the suffering on the other political party takes away your empathy?.....So what if thousands of children are suffering and are traumatized for life.......it's not my fault, so I don't care.......So what you're saying is that a child's pain doesn't matter to you unless the child is an American citizen.......

You are now completely submerged in Trump's reality distortion field.


rus1940 79M
69 posts
2/11/2019 12:03 am

abortion should have never been a political problem. The government should never have a say in a person's life. I want to challenge the right to life folks. How are you going to take care of 150,000 unwanted children? Adoption costs to much and most couples could not pay the price,

RDD