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kathlic schools If a priest ask you to speak to your grandson alone what would you think? |
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3/26/2010 7:47 am |
I wouldn't allow a law official to "speak" with a minor child without being present, so why would I be so stupid to allow a priest to? Don't be coming down on Catholics please, some of us ARE Catholic here on this site.We have had about enough.I know where you are going, and all Catholic Priests are not perverts, just the same as not all bloggers are idiots.
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3/26/2010 10:11 am |
No way sugarbabe! I have leagal custody of two grand kids and I am always present when an adult speaks to them. I am a Catholic and priests don't ask to speak to my grandkids alone!
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3/26/2010 10:17 am |
First, I'd learn how to spell "Catholic". "Think Foto Friday -- it's good for what ails ya!" --- Unknown
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Priests speak to Catholic children alone evey time they go to confession. Nobody ever worries about that. Not all priests are paedophiles, any more than all other adult males are...it would be wrong to mistrust all priests. If you are committed to a religion, then surely trust is important, especially when the priest is considered to be God's representative on earth. Surely that means there is a religious obligation to all Catholics, to view priests as such. The presence of a responsible adult is required by secular law for all juvenile interviews conducted by police. That's to safeguard their civil rights. A priest has no such requirement...but if he wishes to discuss with a child something they have divulged in confession, then religious law would demand that discussion take place in confidentiality. The priest has no choice in that. Of course, you could ask the priest to speak with the child in the confessional. That way you could sit close enough to be reassured that all is well, if you dont feel able to trust him. Priests are human beings, with all the same rights as you and I, so it is sad if they are all being tarred with the same brush because some of them have been untrustworthy.
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I wouldn't allow a law official to "speak" with a minor child without being present, so why would I be so stupid to allow a priest to? Don't be coming down on Catholics please, some of us ARE Catholic here on this site.We have had about enough.I know where you are going, and all Catholic Priests are not perverts, just the same as not all bloggers are idiots. If this blog is to stir the pot...the kitchen is closed!  (And if it's some other kind of "pot" -- please get off of it).  The positive is there. Sometimes it's just hard to find.
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3/26/2010 12:14 pm |
I used to be a Catholic. Am I allowed to criticise them?
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3/26/2010 12:29 pm |
trudy: Which SFF bloggers are idiots?
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3/26/2010 12:32 pm |
the world should stop making adults fearfull of children ~ yes there is abuse in all aspects of society but the news media is erroding the magic of children I am training at the moment for helping with a local charity starting on April 1st, i was amazed when the instructers suggested to walk away from children to a point where others could see you suggesting the adults safety should be considered more than the childs ~ what is this world coming too
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3/26/2010 12:35 pm |
Message-post at beginning of this Thread: (Question): 'If a priest ask(s) you to speak to your grandson alone what would you think?' (Answer): I would think that it's my privilege (and obligation) to assure the priest that it's my privilege to speak to my grandson alone (just me 'n my grandson). i.e., I would speak to my grandson alone about anything/everything or nothing, would be none of the priest's business what topic my grandson and I would discuss.
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3/26/2010 2:59 pm |
Priests speak to Catholic children alone evey time they go to confession. Nobody ever worries about that. Not all priests are paedophiles, any more than all other adult males are...it would be wrong to mistrust all priests. If you are committed to a religion, then surely trust is important, especially when the priest is considered to be God's representative on earth. Surely that means there is a religious obligation to all Catholics, to view priests as such. The presence of a responsible adult is required by secular law for all juvenile interviews conducted by police. That's to safeguard their civil rights. A priest has no such requirement...but if he wishes to discuss with a child something they have divulged in confession, then religious law would demand that discussion take place in confidentiality. The priest has no choice in that. Of course, you could ask the priest to speak with the child in the confessional. That way you could sit close enough to be reassured that all is well, if you dont feel able to trust him. Priests are human beings, with all the same rights as you and I, so it is sad if they are all being tarred with the same brush because some of them have been untrustworthy.
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3/26/2010 3:10 pm |
trudy: Which SFF bloggers are idiots? I can say this though, sometimes commentors think they are much more clever than they actually are.Why are you openly asking me to insult someone? Do it yourself.I refuse to wear your ballz for you.reap your own wrath.In other words...stir your own pot!
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3/26/2010 3:23 pm |
Robyn, Robyn, Robyn....It doesn't surprise me to see you here.Of course true, decent Catholic priests are ashamed of what some sick minded Preists have done while trying to hide within the House of our Lord. True men of God have nothing to hide and don't, and are not afraid to be around children or be alone with them. That is just your opinion, not a true depiction of Catholic Clergy.Of course some priests didn't know what was going on, child molesters are good at keeping their dirty little secrets. Some priests did know what was going on and turned their backs.They are and were just as guilty.Some spoke up and the church hushed them.We all know these things.Why are you asking the same question Ackman did about blogging idiots? Sorry, I already adressed that question. You figure it out ok.I already know the answer.
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3/26/2010 3:27 pm |
Stop it now Rugged, LOL we already know you are "different" but no idiot. LOL. And no I don't have an idiot list, lol. Too funny! Amazing!
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3/27/2010 4:55 am |
No Comment.....I have a pot of soup on the stove...think I'll just go stir that for a while instead. 
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3/27/2010 11:52 am |
Loth I will sent my blogs to you first to edit. You missed the point! You think priests never heard of this? I am quite sure most of them are good priests. But what I don't understand a priest having a relationship with a grown woman is a sin, but molesting kids you get time in a retreat. Now ,I think a priest should be in tune what is going on, when even the pope is involved. But then you are only worried about my grammar. I don,t attack C A T H L I C S [sometime it helps if you know another language] I am not in your class so get to the point.
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3/27/2010 12:02 pm |
Going bananas, teachers can't say anymore " kids line up" it is friends line up! iF MY KID DID SOMETHING ROTTEN TO ANOTHER KID AND THE TEACHER WOULD GIVE HIM A SLAP ON THE BUM HE WOULD KNOW WHAT IT WAS FOR. Not hours later I tell him you were bad. With the attention span of kids. I survived, but I learned. But then if you write a complaint letter today and the spelling is not right it goes into file 13!!
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3/27/2010 12:08 pm |
I was raising a simple question. I got my answer. Maybe even some of those abused boys. What I noticed nobody feels for them much. Oh well forget it sh.. happens even in the church
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3/27/2010 4:27 pm |
I think you are wrong.As parents and grandparents how could we not feel for those children? As the problem in churches surfaced into the limelight much has been correted and people are more careful keeping eyes opened widely.It isn't just the Catholic church you do know don't you?It happens in any church, in any town and in any country.It happens anywhere where children are, child molesters will be rather it be openly nowadays are still in the shadows.It is not a reason to disrespect an entire religion, or even organization.It happenned, no one is denying it.It is still happenning, but those evil people need to be dealt with individually for their own crimes, not on a whole.To do that including a mass, defies common decency itself.
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3/28/2010 11:13 am |
trudy: Seems to me [from your several re-submittals] that you are particularly sensitive to the Catholic condition.... and, especially, the question of priests who have crossed the line to behaviour that is immoral, unethical AND ILLEGAL. Some of us - who may have grown up with Catholic influence - have come to believe that the Catholic hierarchy is PECULIAR in its insistence upon a males-only "leadership"... who must commit to a life of CELIBACY... an UNNATURAL situation, to be sure - AND are not surprised to learn that that hierarchy seems to be rife with members who tend to run "outside the norm" in behaviour with some of those around them [read: the young and naive and TRUSTING]..... Bottom line: Some of us may view the Catholic Church as simply another cult-like group which claims to have some sort of hold and influence upon one's eternal salvation, and squeezes its adherents to follow their mantras .... when there is really no evidence that: 1. There IS eternal salvation to be had.... and, 2. Their behaviour is not much in the way of exemplary, even here in the mortal world...
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3/28/2010 1:01 pm |
I think you are wrong.As parents and grandparents how could we not feel for those children? As the problem in churches surfaced into the limelight much has been correted and people are more careful keeping eyes opened widely.It isn't just the Catholic church you do know don't you?It happens in any church, in any town and in any country.It happens anywhere where children are, child molesters will be rather it be openly nowadays are still in the shadows.It is not a reason to disrespect an entire religion, or even organization.It happenned, no one is denying it.It is still happenning, but those evil people need to be dealt with individually for their own crimes, not on a whole.To do that including a mass, defies common decency itself.
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3/29/2010 7:13 pm |
No, it doesn't make it acceptable to me but what the hell do you want from me or anyone else ?I will NOT denounce my religion for a few who are evil within the Church. We all know what went on, and most likely is still going on.Hell, it could be happenning in your own family, so like what... denounce the whole Human Race? Ackman, you act like I am defending these child molesters. Trust me I am NOT!!! I Don't agree with everything the Catholic Rite does, infact I could care less about the Vatican because I think it is the highest form of Organized crime there is. I was born into a Catholic family, baptized Catholic and still have all of my Catholic ideals and morals I was taught. People who hate so much Catholic need to realize it is not the religion itself that is wrong but the individuals who did the wrong. I also happen to hate men who maybe, molested young girls in the back of their Oldsmobiles too and relive it daily through memory. My first car was a red hardtop OLDS 442, with black tuck and roll interior, and it was SUPERB!!! yet I don't live in memory of sex in the back seat of that or any car or wish or fantasize it 24/7 in a chat room in almost every blog.So what are you trying to say, huh? You really wanna go there? Being Catholic is not a "Cult Like Group". Go sprinkle some Holy water in the back seat of your hunk of junk and see if it don't sizzle up and burn! You sure can't take it with you go, but guess who will be waiting there for you when you do go! And by the way.... Jesus is the evidence that there is Eternal Salvation He wasn't born of a junkyard and will return to a junk yard like your smutty hunk of junk car. Believe in whatever you want. I choose my Lord, you choose your metal idol that represents your pp memories (or wishes). Who cares, Catholc preists aren't the only child molesters in the world, or haven't you admitted that to yourself yet? Catholic bashers are just as bad as American bashers.... The End........ Now come back with anything that you want because I really don't give a goodfk anyhow.Your soul is your worry, not mine and I am not all that worried about my soul.My sins were already paid for on the cross and living in Faith is my Salvation.If truthfulness and my "rudeness" is a sin, oh well! That's been prepaid for also.I will never denounce my Lord or the House of my Lord, no matter how bad the world becomes.
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3/29/2010 7:21 pm |
If I have offended anyone... oh well. I have been offended by this blog itself and what has conspired from it.Cry me aneffin river why doncha, but try checking your own septic system cos trust me it's probably backed up with alot of your own waste.
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