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jiminycricket1 74M
5508 posts
11/9/2022 4:23 am
Texas Politics.. the poster for Trumpism.


There is no state that the Republican have a stronger stranglehold. There is something terribly wrong in Texas.. I am not sure whether the fix is in by corruption or by design.. but no democrat can win in Texas.. Yet the Demographics should say different. Besides all the missteps... including abortion, voting rights, power grids, healthcare, education, that should at least make the races close.. there is a more ominous political design. It's effectiveness is from the ground up...the institutions of policing, and every single department in the Texas government.. In which NO Democrat has any control.

Ulvalde can speak of guns, security, mental, illness as causes. But in truth.. It's the people of Ulvalde and almost every community in Texas and their inability to oversee every Ulvade government function, especially policing who's priority should be to serve and protect. Who's mayor and city council and legal department and school boards have more concern about operating within the political system of Texas than serving the people. Who are considered second class citizens. That local elections are bought and paid for by Republican donors and then leveraged. The people of TexaS HAVE NO REAL CHOICES.

There is lesson to learn.. When people have no real choice in elections.. then polticians have no need to serve them. There is no State in which the pre-election fight is almost never made by Republicans. It's because they got it in the bag.

jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/9/2022 4:36 am

Check it out.. in Texas Republicans never lose an occupied seat.
The State legislature.. has no loyalty to the people of Texas.
Dissenting voices are drowned. It's a demographic State with latino's and black in significant numbers, and Democrats only hope is to look to the Federal government.

No State has a more marginalized electorate.

Beto Orouke has done something that is needed in Texas.. He had no chance, yet, He has focused a new generation of Texans on the problems of Texas. Beto Orouke may not live long enough to see the fruits of that.. but the fruits will be coming. There are alot of pissed off people in Texas right now.


Rocketship 80F
18571 posts
11/9/2022 6:27 am

"There is a lesson to learn.. When people have no real choice in elections.. then politicians have no need to serve them. There is no State in which the pre-election fight is almost never made by Republicans. It's because they got it in the bag."
--jiminycricket

Exactly~~ ...and happening in a number of countries as well, unfortunately~~


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/9/2022 7:22 am

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Yes.. but this is the start of that.. Texans were never really pissed off before.. When Beto lost to Cruz.. it was different. Ulvalde, was different than the other school shooting when the government and governor covered it up. The grid going down in Texas Changed things.. The strongest abortion ban in the country changed things.. People in Texas finally got their eyes opened. But it's going take time to overcome the political setup in Texas. I won't be around to see it.. but when it happens.. The current republicanism is going to dead in Texas.


LeafLeap 73M
444 posts
11/9/2022 3:15 pm

I frankly thought the Castro's would be the one's that get it done for the Democrats. Have you taken a look at Arkansas lately? That's another state that is quickly going down a sewer. About a week ago I looked at all the senate seats, what the votes were in past senate elections and who would be up in 2024. Those people, in both parties, are entrenched. It's not going to change unless there are natural deaths or retirements. What's becoming more and more important is who wins the governorships, and frankly protects seats.

The critical lesson here is for the democrats to make it a high priority to identify and persuade independents. They don't sway with prevailing sentiment. They are independent for a reason. They don't want to hear bullshit. They want to see action and results on what matters to them. Philosophy, and theory, mean little. The democrats should make historic efforts to regularly hold townhall gatherings, regularly sponsor focus group seminars and make the events available for party officials and candidates to screen, and address. Both parties are failing to understand what it takes to get independent voters. They are now the determinant in profound ways. While it will always be important to get turnout that seems to now be mastered. The key to winning is telling the truth, taking action, and listen, listen, listen. Entrenched democrats in New York arrogantly thought they didn't have to engage with voters and it may well cost them the House in the end by losing several close races. It's like they never grasped what AOC accomplished. It was just complete arrogance.

Beto deserves a lot of credit for trying hard. Same thing with Ryan. The Democratic party foolishly didn't swarm over Ohio with support for Ryan and it just might cost them Brown's seat in 2 years. The big message here is that progressives have to move to the center. They do not have the political leadership to further the movement now. That's going to have to wait until they finish snuffing out right-wing fascism and do-nothing republicans in congress. It's going to take longer. Trying to find a state to flip now is going to be very hard. Give up on Wisconsin and focus on North Carolina, keep Georgia from backsliding, don't lose Nevada and get on this crime thing like NOW.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/9/2022 3:23 pm

    Quoting LeafLeap:
    I frankly thought the Castro's would be the one's that get it done for the Democrats. Have you taken a look at Arkansas lately? That's another state that is quickly going down a sewer. About a week ago I looked at all the senate seats, what the votes were in past senate elections and who would be up in 2024. Those people, in both parties, are entrenched. It's not going to change unless there are natural deaths or retirements. What's becoming more and more important is who wins the governorships, and frankly protects seats.

    The critical lesson here is for the democrats to make it a high priority to identify and persuade independents. They don't sway with prevailing sentiment. They are independent for a reason. They don't want to hear bullshit. They want to see action and results on what matters to them. Philosophy, and theory, mean little. The democrats should make historic efforts to regularly hold townhall gatherings, regularly sponsor focus group seminars and make the events available for party officials and candidates to screen, and address. Both parties are failing to understand what it takes to get independent voters. They are now the determinant in profound ways. While it will always be important to get turnout that seems to now be mastered. The key to winning is telling the truth, taking action, and listen, listen, listen. Entrenched democrats in New York arrogantly thought they didn't have to engage with voters and it may well cost them the House in the end by losing several close races. It's like they never grasped what AOC accomplished. It was just complete arrogance.

    Beto deserves a lot of credit for trying hard. Same thing with Ryan. The Democratic party foolishly didn't swarm over Ohio with support for Ryan and it just might cost them Brown's seat in 2 years. The big message here is that progressives have to move to the center. They do not have the political leadership to further the movement now. That's going to have to wait until they finish snuffing out right-wing fascism and do-nothing republicans in congress. It's going to take longer. Trying to find a state to flip now is going to be very hard. Give up on Wisconsin and focus on North Carolina, keep Georgia from backsliding, don't lose Nevada and get on this crime thing like NOW.
Yes, Yes, Yes.. this election had two mistakes one .. For both republicans and Democrats to put up Candidates, that if more moderate would have won easily.. For Republican putting five different state referendums on abortion on the ballot.. that brought people out that never would have otherwise shown up.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/9/2022 4:11 pm

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know it sounds like I'm preaching to get people of Texas riled up..But I think it doesn't matter.. I believe in Beto.......For to be heard someone in Texas someone is going to have to bang their head up against the door. he's doing nothing for himself... I told you HE CAN'T win...
Now, listen to what the Abbot's people say about Beto.. first thing......"GET OUT OF TEXAS" you loser "Move to California that's the place you ought be, load up your burro and your friends and move to Beverly".. This is what TEXAS does, ostracize those who disagree..
You may want to disagree with some of those things too..but why don't you..? You have been subjugated to keep your mouth shut.. And your mind to forget easily..but you know "it" and "you" don't matter. To find out the consequences that await you in TEXAS. If i lived there they wouldn't have to put me on bus.. I would buy my own ticket to Martha's Vineyards
Fuck Texas and the LongHORN they rode in on.

So why do i do it?.. Like most things it not about changing it.. It's about a warning. I no longer fear Trumpism.. I fear TEXAS. Texas is the Lone Star state. people think the attitude is from the Civil War.. It's snot. Texas is the only State in the union that fought for it's own independence. The people in Texas still haven't left the Alamo. And Now a "Santa Ana" is but winds of change.

I can live in Kansas because I am represented by a Democrat congress woman, who's not white but a native American. and a Woman Democrat governor...WTF?. I live in Kansas which books have been written about Kansas being the reddest state in the nation. I live in the most populated, educated and richest county in Kansas, Where I live there are NO liberals here, even if the Republicans try to make you think so.. I live in Johnson Country Kansas republicans don't just lose there they get blown away., And Johnson county is almost entirely WHITE. Kansas although they can believe a Lie..they don't fear the truth.

leaf.. tell TX it's the truth since you lived there, you know what it was like.


LeafLeap 73M
444 posts
11/10/2022 2:19 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    Yes, Yes, Yes.. this election had two mistakes one .. For both republicans and Democrats to put up Candidates, that if more moderate would have won easily.. For Republican putting five different state referendums on abortion on the ballot.. that brought people out that never would have otherwise shown up.
You want to see something stunning? Go look at every state with senate and governor elections this year. It was very surprising to me to see how many candidates were non-white. Most of them lost, and right off hand the only one I can remember who won was in Maryland, a state the Democrats flipped. Did anybody really believe a non-white candidate would win in Alabama? Let me make it very clear to you. In my view some of these candidates were great candidates and I liked what I heard from them, especially the democratic candidate in North Carolina. She should have been elected. But, we both know why she probably wasn't. It's so frustrating and just flat out repugnant. We have a LOT of work to do in race relations in America. The Biden administration is clearly trying to address problems and they deserve a lot of credit. I just don't know if putting up candidates to try and break down barriers alone is wise, if the electorate just isn't ready, or frankly grown up enough not to let prejudices rule the day. Do you just live with the losses and see it as something that simply has to be tried, because its fair and furthers the goal? I don't know the answer to that. But what I do sense is that it was flat out prejudice that kept some of these candidates from winning. Just take a few minutes and check out how many non-white candidates ran in this election. You can't tell me that the Democratic candidate for the senate in Wisconsin was inferior to Ron Johnson, of all people. At the same time however, in the present environment, was Val Demings really the best candidate to take on Rubio in Florida? I want to see diversity in the congress. I'm very happy to see more and more women engaging and winning. That's good for the country. I'm just not sure that simply running candidates that try to advance singular goals, like election deniers, or promote diversity, or have bizarre views on abortion rights is ever a good idea. What the hell is Hershel Walker doing running for the senate, or Dr. Oz. The parties need to resist the tendency to encourage the wrong candidates at the wrong time in the wrong place. For the GOP to run someone like Lake in Arizona just to set the state on fire helps nobody. Maybe its just hard to find someone willing to do it.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/10/2022 5:43 am

You can't change racism by throwing it in people's face. you don't end misogyny by promoting women above men. You don't change a "culture" overnight.
Are all these thing important? ..heck yes... but there are no moral victories.. you can't change it unless you win.
Of course ..people don't get it.. but extremism is done. Extremism can't WIN.


LeafLeap 73M
444 posts
11/10/2022 8:54 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    You can't change racism by throwing it in people's face. you don't end misogyny by promoting women above men. You don't change a "culture" overnight.
    Are all these thing important? ..heck yes... but there are no moral victories.. you can't change it unless you win.
    Of course ..people don't get it.. but extremism is done. Extremism can't WIN.
I've arrived at the same conclusion Cricket. Extremism is indeed done and it just might have been those voters in Kansas City that said "ENOUGH" over abortion with a bullhorn that signaled it's over. It will be interesting to see what now happens in two House races in particular...Boebert is 62 votes behind, and Katie Porter in California is hovering around 50%. The outstanding races are razor-thin now. I couldn't believe the BS I heard from a republican PAC this cycle. They were relentless and my congresswoman, Elaine Luria (she's on the Jan 6th Committee) lost by 11,000 votes. Same sort of thing that sank Cheney. So here we sit in Virginia with a republican governor, Youngkin who couldn't even get 51% of the vote, and now we have a new congresswoman in Virginia's largest city who barely got over 50% herself. The state government is split here, with the state senate in democratic hands by 1 vote. I don't know if we can even agree on how many potholes to fix. We can't get rid of this governor until 2025 and we already know republicans will be bringing their circus freaks here constantly over the next 2 years. They can't take this state in 2024 without winning southern Virginia. There's only so much extremism and stupidity voters can stomach...and we've had it.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/11/2022 6:52 am

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You have been misinformed...Democrats for the most part don't want open borders, don't want to take your guns or want abortions without some common sense regulations. They don't want to hurt you, like "Texans" want to hurt.. Democrats choose truth over lies, and Democracy over authoritarianism. Democrats believe in choice even if it's the wrong choice. Democrats believe in equality.. until you FORCE them to believe they are better than you.

I have looked into Texas elections. It's amazing what happens there. In the last four governor elections the Republicans have won by the exact same margins.. Vote counts have varied from 2,000, 000 votes for republicans to four million and have gone up equal to the number of increased Democrat vote.. and by trend will continue to do so. The Capitol city of Austin has gone up in Democrat votes from 50% to 74% .. as has most of the largest cities.. yet rural votes have gone for republican from 60% to 90%... . I guess the growth in population of Texas has been more rural republican???
that the idea that the growth in Hispanic votes have split is ludicrous. Uvalde went from 70% republican to 60% republicans. Despite the Lies...Despite the Hispanic second class.

Not a single Democrat won a Statewide election..The Republican in Texas are all in, No republican votes or disagrees with republican policies in texas..and keeps their position.. Texas republicans hide their crazies, hide their Christian Nationalism, and evangelical political power. Texas Republican never think of the common good. Texas republican believe that current education in texas is not to educate the young but indoctrinate them. When in fact, that position is not designed in fairness, but so they can indoctrinate the youth. Texas is the poster child for Republican nationalism. they have the way to get away with it. Power, control, and authority.
It's not about Florida....People are talking about Florida..and Desantis.. So it's in the open.. but being in the open means it's okay...nobody talks about Texas politics. It's all covert.

Texas elections are rotten to the core.