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jiminycricket1 74M
5535 posts
6/29/2022 9:07 am
August 2nd....the final straw.


On August second the people of Kansas will be the first to vote on a referendum about abortion..
Currently the State legislature of Kansas does not have the power to ban abortions.

This referendum will give them that power.

Of course we will find if the people of Kansas accept being hoodwinked into a referendum that doesn't say what it means. There are restriction to abortions in Kansas.. that conform to Roe v Wade. There is a Kansas Supreme court ruling that the State legislature can not ban abortions. That abortion in Kansas is a women's right.

Who's have thunk it in the State of Kansas?

Typical Republican strategy to over turn the Kansas Supreme Court. Is to use any and all means to disguise what the referendum actually does.

Although they appeal to the people Kansas that the referendum will give the legislature the ability to restrict abortions..... they do not need the referendum to do that. They need the referendum to remove the right of women to be offered an abortion....or to ban abortions, not restrictions.. unless the restriction acts like a ban.

Their biggest promotion is to state the number of people from other states that will come to Kansas to get an abortion.....this is true. as surroundings States ban abortions.. but the only way to stop it, is to ban abortions not restrict them. In reality what is means is it worse to accept people from other States or to force your own citizens to go to another State.
And the most ridiculous Statement is.. Kansas will have too many abortions.... How many is too many abortions? When it's restricted to .. one to a customer.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
6/29/2022 9:31 am

This will be a real test if people are smarting up to republican ways.. I believe abortion is the only issue where it is possible

Kansas has a slight chance to make a difference because they have been aware of republican ways with the election of governor Brownback.. Still it seems the difficulty in overcoming Republican propaganda, misinformation, and distractions may be too much for the people of Kansas.

Kansas and Nebraska may be conservative stalwarts.. but there is a difference..that makes a huge difference, as misguided as their conservatism may be.. The people of Kansas and Nebraska are true patriots and hold on to the most precious ideas of what America has stood for..


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
6/29/2022 11:10 am

You don't know Kansas..... With .Kansas and Missouri the Civil war rages on. and less you forget.. Kansas is a northern State.
The up and down of Cultural wars has plagued Kansas to not know if it should shit or get off the pot. And Thomas Frank is right.. Kansas has never abandoned Democratic principles...Democrats abandoned Kansas.......but when it comes down to it...Missouri is Southern and Kansas is American.
You don't believe me.. look at who's elected in each State....Look at the difference between a Bob Dole and a Josh Hawley.. look at congresswomen Sharice Davis..in a mostly white area... and try to figure out if she could ever get elected in Missouri..... look at the difference between Laura Kelly and Mike Parsons....Josh Hawley and Mike Parsons.. WTF are Missery people thinking?.....a recent difference is that..When Brownback hit Kansans over the head they learned...... when Hawley and Mike Parson hit Misserians over the head they just get dumber.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
6/29/2022 2:15 pm

I keep learning more and more about people's attitudes about abortion..
my attitude is that a woman with an unwanted pregnancy is a victim of the abortion decision.. there is no good answer..just a bad ones

The question of why are there women who are pro-life..Why do they not have compassion for other women. Why do they think they know better. Every one of them would say they would never have an abortion..but that is not true.. Every one of them would feel they could Never be a position to decide whether or not to have an abortion. They could have different reasons why they feel they could never get pregnant under those circumstances.
What i have discovered..... why those women have no compassion towards other women with unwanted pregnancies.. Is they simply can't get over their contempt for them.


TwilightSpirit 56F
1243 posts
6/29/2022 7:51 pm

For myself, I do not believe in abortion, but I am wise enough to know it is not my choice to make that decision for another woman or child. There are many reasons that a person may face the choice of terminating a pregnancy and some of them are pretty horrific. I do not believe the decision is ever made lightly.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
7/3/2022 1:12 pm

    Quoting TwilightSpirit:
    For myself, I do not believe in abortion, but I am wise enough to know it is not my choice to make that decision for another woman or child. There are many reasons that a person may face the choice of terminating a pregnancy and some of them are pretty horrific. I do not believe the decision is ever made lightly.
Yes......I get the impression when I hear the anti-abortion women.....they seem to believe that women who choose to have abortions do it lightly.....They assume.....they are lacking in respect for other women.....empathy requires respect.


LeafLeap 73M
444 posts
7/4/2022 3:12 am

I wasn't aware of this but it will indeed be very interesting.