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jiminycricket1 74M
5508 posts
5/9/2022 10:08 am
Men are Hoodwinked, Republican control is not limited to women


As much as women need to fight for their rights..From this obvious attack.
It is almost just as important for women....To try and do what they have always done..
Protect stupid men from themselves.
What's the guys role in an unwanted pregnancy?
What is the father's role when abortions become illegal..
Who's financial responsibility will it be for 18 years.
When it's a women's choice the onus falls on them..
Women who have a choice and make the choice to carry the pregnancy to term..Take on almost all the responsibility,. They understand it, the decision is based on it. Without a decision, there is no direct decision responsibility.. except for those who wish to avoid it. Like the father and the government.
Stupid men, who don't have a clue about what overturning Roe v Wade means for them.
Stupid men don't have a clue of what's coming up the pike.. It's is apparent the Right opposes gay marriage.. as they believe marriage and pregnancy go hand in hand. They oppose interracial marriage for the same reason.
Some Women Who choose to have an abortion, or not.. have reasons that have nothing to do with health.. For some who do, the reason can be to avoid marriage. For some who don't the reason can be government support without marriage. Government support for the woman because they have .. Without a choice the onus goes on men, to marry and support or not marry and support. For the Right will assume it's the same thing, once a pregnancy occurs.
The idea of self serving men is not gender specific. Women will self serve too. Men will become aware of the "pregnancy trap".
For men "casual sex" may or may not be a good thing. It's a battle between the male ego and being humbled.
Taking away a woman's choice.. will eventually take away a man's choice to have "casual sex"
To further the Right's cause against "casual sex". Contraception will be their next target.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
5/9/2022 10:11 am

They say the basis of overturning Roe V Wade is protecting the unborn child. It's your typical Right wing LIE. There are other issues.. Federal involvement in healthcare mandates. Puritanical views of sex, and the moral and societal decay, caused by a Liberal view of sex. And the government responsibility to legislate morals and societal standards. You can see it in the words and see it in the eyes of those who support this kind of Right wing agenda. The others, are just hypocrites, they are just going along for the ride and the hate of liberalism.
Men don't realize the "free passes" they get.. until it's taken away. Yes, a women choice makes the choice for men much easier. Getting to shirk their own responsibility......But it is the "Catch 22" of equality.. Women also wanting to shirk the responsibility, or forcing men to take the responsibility. It's crazy...and a crazy world..in which equality, for some women, is being just like a man.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
5/9/2022 3:23 pm

When I was in my 40s, I was dating a guy who bitterly complained that he had been tricked into becoming a father 3 times, by 3 different women......I know other men as well who take no responsibility for pregnancies....they are angry and bitter that they have to contribute to the support of a child that they didn't ask for......These are men of our generation.....I was hoping that attitude had changed.....


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
5/10/2022 7:26 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    When I was in my 40s, I was dating a guy who bitterly complained that he had been tricked into becoming a father 3 times, by 3 different women......I know other men as well who take no responsibility for pregnancies....they are angry and bitter that they have to contribute to the support of a child that they didn't ask for......These are men of our generation.....I was hoping that attitude had changed.....
"I was dating a guy who bitterly complained that he had been tricked into becoming a father 3 times, by 3 different women....."

I would like to know how a guy is TRICKED...?
It's rhetoric

Yeah i think it has a lot to do, with not knowing how babies are made.
And who makes them..And who's responsible when they are made.

It's like.. she tricked me.. because she promised not to swallow.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
5/12/2022 1:23 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    "I was dating a guy who bitterly complained that he had been tricked into becoming a father 3 times, by 3 different women....."

    I would like to know how a guy is TRICKED...?
    It's rhetoric

    Yeah i think it has a lot to do, with not knowing how babies are made.
    And who makes them..And who's responsible when they are made.

    It's like.. she tricked me.. because she promised not to swallow.
He said he was made to believe that the woman was using birth control....in all 3 instances......I asked him why he believed the second and third mother?......He said because he is a trusting person who assumes sincerity.......Two of those children were sons.....one of them has a very low IQ and the other one died of Leukemia at 16......the emotional pain my friend has experienced from these tragedies he blames entirely on the mothers.....His healthy, successful, beautiful daughter is wholly his creation......


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
5/12/2022 4:14 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    He said he was made to believe that the woman was using birth control....in all 3 instances......I asked him why he believed the second and third mother?......He said because he is a trusting person who assumes sincerity.......Two of those children were sons.....one of them has a very low IQ and the other one died of Leukemia at 16......the emotional pain my friend has experienced from these tragedies he blames entirely on the mothers.....His healthy, successful, beautiful daughter is wholly his creation......
He was tricked.....in believing it was her responsibility not his.
As regale against stupid people..who believe shit that's not true.. who see what they want to see. Who buy into the most self serving endeavors.

And now you come and say HE was the one that was TRICKED. When you obviously should know,, that being tricked Is not endeavor of the tricker.. it's the endeavor of the trickee....You don't get to choose which fucking idiot you get to believe
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sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
5/13/2022 10:21 am

I've heard this story many times from many men.....They just assume the woman is "taking care of it".....Just assume that he knows what she wants without ever discussing it......just ignoring the whole issue of what happens if she gets pregnant......The blame for that level of irresponsibility is on both the man and woman......The unfortunate reality is that our sex drives usually come before our brains have caught up to the responsibilities of parenthood and in many cases, never get there......I've known dead-beat dads, but I've also known women who had children to please their husbands and society and hate being mothers...........

The anti-abortion people don't take this into consideration......they think that women can just decide to give their babies up for adoption, as if it's a simple choice........A woman, especially a very young one, can know she doesn't want a baby, can know she won't be a good mother, but still be very much in love with the child growing in her womb and will live a lifetime of agony if she gives it up........I know this because I have known many women in that position.............

The anti-abortion people never mention the tens of thousands of children in foster care who are shoved around all their lives......Just give your child away, they say.....just hand it over.........