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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
9/10/2021 7:31 am
Faith in Reality


I would hope faith prevents us from DOING the wrong thing. And I would hope a persons view of their reality allows them the choice s DO the right things.
I don't believe faith tells us 2 DO anything.
I don't believe reality tells us 2DO wrong.
The evils that lurk in religion, in politics, and in society are not labeled by religions, or the conservative or the liberal point of view. WE can blame the messenger all we , but when it comes down , just human nature, and labels are just justifications for DOING something, in the name of something that isn't anything.
Our beliefs don't tell us 2 DO, We choose 2 DO. The stronger the belief does not make the DOING more right. The DOING stands on 's own, regardless of one's belief or one's view of reality..
I'm not challenging anybody belief. I'm challenging what they DO in the name of that belief.
I do not believe that God TELL us what 2 do. I believe God tells us what we shouldn't do. I believe that man tells us what do, How we should live, and what we should be. Man is the one plays the tune that people choose 2 dance . What people do in the of God is not done in his name .. but in religion. What we don't do, is what we do in the name of God
Those that do not believe in God, and say they choose 2 see their reality. What they DO is based on their reality. But reality also says nothing about what is right or wrong
An individual may have their choice removed, may be FORCED do something, that is wrong, but yet is justifiable. That still does not change the fact that action is wrong. We shouldn't praise them for , just not condemn them for . never justifiably right, just justifiable


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/10/2021 7:36 am

For example.. killing in self defense may be justifiable.. but it's not justifiably right.


LeafLeap 73M
444 posts
9/10/2021 2:17 pm

I think the piece you are missing here is one's conscience. The conscience provides the bridge to faith.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/10/2021 2:48 pm

    Quoting LeafLeap:
    I think the piece you are missing here is one's conscience. The conscience provides the bridge to faith.
it's ALL about conscience... right or wrong is not about faith or reality..It's about conscience.


LeafLeap 73M
444 posts
9/11/2021 12:17 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    it's ALL about conscience... right or wrong is not about faith or reality..It's about conscience.
Well not really Cricket. One of the foundation principles of faith is recognizing not only God's grace, and wisdom, but how free will shapes one's life too. What faith reveals is that God always provides a way out. In other words, one's conscience holds down the fort as faith matures and the path ahead becomes clearer to navigate.. That journey molds our purpose in life - living water will keep us from thirst.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/11/2021 3:44 am

What .. I am talking about a specific decision at a specific time..

I am not talking about the journey and the struggle..Which you also have wrong.

God doesn't not lead us or direct us as what to do..

the idea of God.. has but one purpose...to overcome one's nature... our conscience tells Us if we can do that or not. The struggle is the one between our nature and or conscience.

You want to know the problem with this country now......God has failed US (not the man made one, the other one),...truth has failed US, empathy has failed Us, and all this has happened because our conscience has failed US

You think it's matters right or wrong, Left or Right.. You think you Hold the keys to the kingdoms. but in truth.. you lack God, you lack truth, you lack empathy..and you succumb to your own nature.. You don't get it..control, judgment...and the sentencing is your human nature.. It's directs what you do.. not your conscience.
there is only one person, you can judge and control... that's yourself.
Faith in oneself is the faith in others