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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
8/24/2021 12:06 pm
American "stranded" in Afghanistan..


Fox news flat out LIES..
To prove American were stranded they posted this from an "American worker"..

"I am being stranded in Afghanistan.."

It was obvious that an American Worker was not an American citizen, but an Afghan citizen who worked for an American.
Fox News never said that... For you idiots... Isn't an American worker an American?

As i listen to these updates.. the news media questions just goes over the same shit..

I have questions that need to be asked..

How many Americans in Afghanistan are of Afghan descent. And how many haven't left yet because they can get their Afghan extended family to the airport?

Whether it be an American or Afghan.. how many family members can they take with them, What defines a family for an evacuation?

Are most the people outside the airport .. not entitled to evacuation?

American that are stranded in Afghanistan are stranded by CHOICE.. Yet they will play the "victim card" at the end.... don't yourself to believe anything else.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/24/2021 12:20 pm

Many Afghan men and some Taliban have said they would like to give women more right...jobs, education, etc

You folks are just stupid not to understand what that means...these men who say that are assholes.. they are misogynists.. they are culturally propagandized.

Those who come here will be surprised at our culture and how things are done here.

Now many of you are saying.. WTF am I talking about.. because you don't see it..

Taliban and Afghan men.. who say such things may actually believe it.. but that doesn't change a thing.

The problem is and will continue to be.. is that Afghan men think they are entitled to GIVE women rights... instead of believing women are entitled to those rights.

That's why we couldn't win in Afghanistan.. that's why men didn't buy in to what we were selling.. that's why when those same men come to America.. they will have a rude awakening...they will NEVER agree that women are entitled to the rights they have here.

the irony is they will find some American support here from the Right


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/24/2021 12:49 pm

    Quoting  :

I talk about the WHAT and the HOW.. With Afghanistan men the WHAT appears to be about just women....but the HOW is far more universal

For example.. We had a civil War to abolish slavery.. But was slavery the real issue?

Most people in the South believed.....they were entitled to GIVE slaves rights That they had the right to give slave what they needed as they saw fit.....many probably felt slaves deserved MORE rights
What they didn't believe is that slaves were entitled to those rights.

We abolished slavery with the WAR..but we've spent 160 years still fighting the same problem.. The rights of some people, believe they have, to GIVE rights to someone not like them.

WE haven't been able to solve it here, and we will not solve it in Afghanistan...or throughout the world.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
8/24/2021 4:57 pm

In Norway, all refugees from the Middle East and other countries where women don't have equal rights, must attend classes on Norwegian/Western Culture....so they will learn what the expectations are...Their children must also attend culture classes in their school and are encouraged to educate their parents about the culture......I don't know how successful they are.....


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/25/2021 12:18 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    In Norway, all refugees from the Middle East and other countries where women don't have equal rights, must attend classes on Norwegian/Western Culture....so they will learn what the expectations are...Their children must also attend culture classes in their school and are encouraged to educate their parents about the culture......I don't know how successful they are.....
It's a good idea..success is hard to measure. Most middle east men don't have a clue .. why they are the way they are..most similar men don't have clue either.. Knowledge about that stuff can be understood but not accepted as applying to each one of them. It can be other men, not them.. So they are incapable of change .
the success about teaching western culture will be measured in the future generations.
It will be difficult... It's much easier to gain an advantage than to give up an advantage.