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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
8/12/2021 9:28 am
The STINK


People see, but can not understand
People understand, but can not see..
People hear, but do not believe
People believe, but can not hear

Finding the truth can be difficult
Not seeking the truth makes it impossible.
Especially when trying to "fix" that which is broken
and Truth and Lies can come out of the same toolbox
.
The reason for the truth, needs no reasoning
It's Lies that require reasoning
Yet, people needs a reason for the truth
and lie without reasoning..

The truth, although hard to find.. does not try to evade you
It's all around you..

See it... so you can understand
Hear it.... so you can believe
You can feel it, in your love, not in your hate
You can smell it, in the absence of "The Stink"
You can touch it.......when it can "touch" you


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/12/2021 9:31 am

I give up!
I can't tell you what it is. I can't show you what it is. I can't reason with you as to what it is..
But mostly.. I am giving up...because the "stink" is overwhelming.

"I got to get out of this place
If it's the last thing i ever do
I got to get out of this place
girls there's a better life for me and you"


Abelle2 83F
31229 posts
8/12/2021 9:53 am

jiminycricket...........DO NOT give up! You have been on here too long to let this "person" run you off!

I have decided to not let such a person - or whatever, run me off!!!


Rocketship 80F
18578 posts
8/12/2021 10:47 am

    Quoting Abelle2:
    jiminycricket...........DO NOT give up! You have been on here too long to let this "person" run you off!

    I have decided to not let such a person - or whatever, run me off!!!
*** Exactly!!!!!


waywardwind302 78M

8/12/2021 2:22 pm

criket

dont let these folks stop you. leave. it is bezt maybe ur health is affected they are selfish telling u too stay.

stand up to tehm and show them u r strong man. dont wimp out


Maudie1 74F
8151 posts
8/12/2021 2:42 pm

I loved that song by Eric Burdon and the Animals, great number. Keep on keeping on, Jiminy.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/12/2021 3:09 pm

    Quoting Abelle2:
    jiminycricket...........DO NOT give up! You have been on here too long to let this "person" run you off!

    I have decided to not let such a person - or whatever, run me off!!!
I wasn't specifically thinking about a person or even a group of people
I wasn't specifically thinking about this site
I wasn't even thinking about politics

There are things we can disagree on...the results of a truth can be an opinion.
But the results of a lie...is not an opinion... it's a manipulation.

It's disheartening...when you want people to think for themselves, stand up for themselves, and understand what is the truth.. whatever they deem that to be.
I can deal with that..

What I can't deal with is
Is people using THEIR part truth... to manipulate other people and their own truth.
I know who they are..Partisan politics can easily be define as part-truth.

Is it any wonder... as most people, now think they are a "politician" or a media celebrity..


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
8/12/2021 4:07 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    I give up!
    I can't tell you what it is. I can't show you what it is. I can't reason with you as to what it is..
    But mostly.. I am giving up...because the "stink" is overwhelming.

    "I got to get out of this place
    If it's the last thing i ever do
    I got to get out of this place
    girls there's a better life for me and you"

What "place" is it you've got to get out of? Is it a place in your own mind where you are stuck chasing your own tail? That' too bad that you feel stuck......what's your escape plan?.......


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
8/12/2021 4:09 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    What "place" is it you've got to get out of? Is it a place in your own mind where you are stuck chasing your own tail? That' too bad that you feel stuck......what's your escape plan?.......
PS, the tail end is usually stinky.......maybe head in another direction.....


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/12/2021 4:55 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    What "place" is it you've got to get out of? Is it a place in your own mind where you are stuck chasing your own tail? That' too bad that you feel stuck......what's your escape plan?.......
Well..It's not about getting out of a place..!

But there are places.. people need to stay out of..

But you wouldn't know about that.
You Keep Going there

When I say.. people try to manipulate people.
Sometimes, people believe the are getting manipulated when they are not... and other times people believe they are NOT being manipulative ..when they are..

It's a place some can't get out of
And it's the place... I want to stay away from.

Good bye,
ThanK You.... for answering your own question.

Don't worry .. YOU got an out.. Just blame it on men.


TxJW006 81M

8/12/2021 6:16 pm

Jiminy stop that. Are you having a bad day?
Chill out & enjoy.
Party On!


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
8/12/2021 6:17 pm

Well, I stepped in another one of your traps...Your ability to chase your tail and navel-gaze simultaneously looks like a skill at first glance, but quickly devolves into a mindless conjuring trick...Feeling a little insecure are we?...


TxJW006 81M

8/12/2021 9:49 pm

No matter how bad things get life goes on---the world keeps turning-----If we reached a conclusion we would not be here. LOL
There is a ( GREAT ) old sad song by Ronnie Millsap-----Please Don't Tell Me How The Story Ends.----------I don't want to know because I am still making my own party. LOL
Jiminy you need a hobby to keep you busy. Stop trying to solve the worlds problems because they are perpetual. It has to be that way in order for us to exist.
Party On!


Archer62 83F
7096 posts
8/13/2021 5:03 am

ONE PERSON'S TRUTH IS VERY OFTEN ANOTHER PERSON'S LIE. I HAVE HEARD SO MANY SEEMINGLY HONEST AND REASONABLE PEOPLE TELL ME SO DARN MANY LIES THEY HONESTLY BELIEVE TO BE TRUE. READ JUST ABOUT ANY NEWSPAPER OR LISTEN TO ALMOST ANY NEWSCAST NOW AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT I MEAN.


LeafLeap 73M
444 posts
8/13/2021 6:04 am

Try singing Sunshine on my Shoulder


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/13/2021 8:53 am

    Quoting Archer62:
    ONE PERSON'S TRUTH IS VERY OFTEN ANOTHER PERSON'S LIE. I HAVE HEARD SO MANY SEEMINGLY HONEST AND REASONABLE PEOPLE TELL ME SO DARN MANY LIES THEY HONESTLY BELIEVE TO BE TRUE. READ JUST ABOUT ANY NEWSPAPER OR LISTEN TO ALMOST ANY NEWSCAST NOW AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT I MEAN.
yes, that is what this is about..It's not the belief that is the problem.. It's the level of belief..despite any reasonable reasoning.
Anyone and everyone can believe the wrong thing...

I try to deal with my doubts...and simply having them... Can only mitigate my belief.

It seem unreasonable to me ..for people NOT to have doubts.
it seem unreasonable to hide ones doubts.

Lets take the most universal of that..
Someone can beleive in God...I have no problem with that belief.
I have a problem when they have no doubts.
My reasoning about everything, resides in my doubts..not in my belief.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/13/2021 9:21 am

    Quoting TxJW006:
    No matter how bad things get life goes on---the world keeps turning-----If we reached a conclusion we would not be here. LOL
    There is a ( GREAT ) old sad song by Ronnie Millsap-----Please Don't Tell Me How The Story Ends.----------I don't want to know because I am still making my own party. LOL
    Jiminy you need a hobby to keep you busy. Stop trying to solve the worlds problems because they are perpetual. It has to be that way in order for us to exist.
    Party On!
I am not trying to solve the problem of the world.. I am just trying to rephrase the questions..

When you say "party on".. At least for me... You are doing the same thing. Repositioning the question. It's really important..

Other people "ASS-U-ME" . it means you don't care..I think it's just the opposite of that.

My idea of problems is they will always exist... My idea of evolution is about problem solving..my idea is that people provide solutions. our history has taught me People solve the problems..
but what I have come to realize is that people can only solve the problems people create..
So I give up,
WE are children who's "Mother nature" can no longer provide for them. it's out of their hands,, and We are on our own... WE were protected, We could exist with temporary failures.
I give up
There are no more temporary failures, and we are incapable.. NOT TO FAIL.

So what left for me to do...but
PARTY ON!


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/13/2021 11:45 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Well, I stepped in another one of your traps...Your ability to chase your tail and navel-gaze simultaneously looks like a skill at first glance, but quickly devolves into a mindless conjuring trick...Feeling a little insecure are we?...
You always answer the question.. without realizing it.. I didn't set a trap for you. I wasn't trying to manipulate you into anything.. You did it to yourself..

If you had seen the possibilities of what i have to say instead of assuming certain things that you choose to believe.
if you ever doubted yourself..

You would understand. I am NOT your enemy...

You don't have to like what I say.. you don't have to agree with what i say.
But i'll give up on you... if you disrespect what i say.

You may think that is the pot calling the kettle black. but it snot!


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
8/13/2021 12:40 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    You always answer the question.. without realizing it.. I didn't set a trap for you. I wasn't trying to manipulate you into anything.. You did it to yourself..

    If you had seen the possibilities of what i have to say instead of assuming certain things that you choose to believe.
    if you ever doubted yourself..

    You would understand. I am NOT your enemy...

    You don't have to like what I say.. you don't have to agree with what i say.
    But i'll give up on you... if you disrespect what i say.

    You may think that is the pot calling the kettle black. but it snot!
I don't actually think you deliberately set a trap......I see it more like stepping inadvertently into a Gopher-hole.......I have no idea what you're on about.....You write like my mother made stew......cooked it so long it was impossible to identify what you were eating........I don't see you as an enemy at all.....I'm the one who makes the mistake of yet again attempting to identify a path through your verbiage........

Going by all the other comments on this blog, everyone thought you were saying you were leaving this site.......but I'm the only one who you get in a funk about for not understanding your stew........


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/13/2021 1:06 pm

I'm not leaving ..like I'm taking my toys from this playbox.. I am just not playing more.
I don't like the game anymore..It's a waste of my thinking time.

I have never been able to say exactly what I mean.. but i always mean what I say.
I depend on you to figure it out..

I don't answer the questions.. I pose the questions,.. it up to you to answer it..
Yes, others posed an answer to my question.. but I explain that, before you jumped in..

For example.. I was complaining about losing my sanity..by continuing
and your response was.. why are you worried about something you already lost?


cayman07 79F

8/13/2021 2:00 pm

JC, get away from the current situation you are in and relax on a warm beach and swim in crystal clear water. Rent a small sailboat for the day. Life can be good !


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
8/13/2021 6:53 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    I am not trying to solve the problem of the world.. I am just trying to rephrase the questions..

    When you say "party on".. At least for me... You are doing the same thing. Repositioning the question. It's really important..

    Other people "ASS-U-ME" . it means you don't care..I think it's just the opposite of that.

    My idea of problems is they will always exist... My idea of evolution is about problem solving..my idea is that people provide solutions. our history has taught me People solve the problems..
    but what I have come to realize is that people can only solve the problems people create..
    So I give up,
    WE are children who's "Mother nature" can no longer provide for them. it's out of their hands,, and We are on our own... WE were protected, We could exist with temporary failures.
    I give up
    There are no more temporary failures, and we are incapable.. NOT TO FAIL.

    So what left for me to do...but
    PARTY ON!
My problem with you all along is that you assume to know what/how others are thinking......On and on....that's all you ever talk about....people say/think/act this and that.....You have certainly assumed a lot about me....and when I tried to tell you what you had wrong about me, you just continued to spin your own web of assumptions......

.And here, you say "other people "ASS-U-ME" you don't care".........Who are those people? You're the one who is assuming in that instance.......I certainly don't think that TXJW doesn't care......and I don't get the impression that others think that either.....maybe a few have thought that at some time, but to make that blanket assessment is a huge assumption.....

This has come up time and again in our dialogue.....You interpret other people's word on this limited venue and make assumptions based on your own prejudices....as we all do, but most of us realize that people have nuanced lives and their words on this site are not the totality of who they are.........


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/13/2021 7:49 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    My problem with you all along is that you assume to know what/how others are thinking......On and on....that's all you ever talk about....people say/think/act this and that.....You have certainly assumed a lot about me....and when I tried to tell you what you had wrong about me, you just continued to spin your own web of assumptions......

    .And here, you say "other people "ASS-U-ME" you don't care".........Who are those people? You're the one who is assuming in that instance.......I certainly don't think that TXJW doesn't care......and I don't get the impression that others think that either.....maybe a few have thought that at some time, but to make that blanket assessment is a huge assumption.....

    This has come up time and again in our dialogue.....You interpret other people's word on this limited venue and make assumptions based on your own prejudices....as we all do, but most of us realize that people have nuanced lives and their words on this site are not the totality of who they are.........
Why do you assume you are the "other people"

Why do you pick apart what I mean and change the context.. what i wrote to tx.. was because i knew he would understand what i meant.. I respond to you.. I never write to you..

"Party on".. is not to be dismissive. it to have people re-focus...take a break..
So I need to party on...and you need to party on.