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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
10/28/2020 10:54 am
This Election


you got to get away from..the multitude of shit STINKS and go to the SMELLY big picture. We will determine how the big picture will smell.

You can think this election is about saving our democracy.. you think this election is about saving our souls, You can think this election is about fighting racism and fascism, or socialism.... About instituting bad policies.. And the retraction of other ones.. You could think about what this country will be like afterwards. You could think this election is about saving our institutions. You could think this election is about foreign influences, foreign policies and treason.. . You could think this election is about a referendum on the Covid19, or lies or Donald Trump..You could think this election is about conspiracies.. You could think any of those things.

I doubt this country has ever been more real about what this election is about. People don't understand it. People can't see it, People can only feel it..This election is about Making America Great Again, even if we don't know what that is.... It's about the light on the hill..It's about the truth, the meaning, and the example..

It's the challenge to US that the truth.. is not a lie.. That we haven't been living a LIE.

It's meaning is too small for US to handle.. Yet, too big for everyone to grasp. It's right in front of your face and you can't see it..it's Too small to notice.. too big to see it all. Too hard to comprehend....it's not about policies or politics.. It's not about the results.. It's not about the aftermath.. It's about the Here and Now

For the first time in our history...it has been made clear... As of January 20th 2017
THIS ELECTION IS ABOUT...THIS ELECTION.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/28/2020 10:57 am

So far, so good..
We are not out of the woods yet.
When are you people going to realize that this election is not about who wins..
It's not about WHAT you win..It's about HOW you win it.


TxJW4 81M

10/28/2020 12:04 pm

Back it up. The nation lost when Congress gave what was left of the Treasury away to the capitalists.
Everything being talked about in this election is minor in the big picture.

TRUTH IS WE ARE BANKRUPT and realization comes home next year.

We all have lost. Next year we will realize it.

Severe depression, loss of jobs, bankruptcies, bailouts, bank closings.
That is WHAT your future holds if you call that a win.


LeafReport 73M

10/28/2020 12:31 pm

It's really about WHAT America gets out of the election. It's never about the how, unless you're talking about losing. America votes on results...what got done and what didn't? How Trump governed, committing blatant acts of corruption and obstruction of justice, meant nothing to the republican majority in the senate.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/28/2020 5:23 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    It's really about WHAT America gets out of the election. It's never about the how, unless you're talking about losing. America votes on results...what got done and what didn't? How Trump governed, committing blatant acts of corruption and obstruction of justice, meant nothing to the republican majority in the senate.
well you don't get it.. It doesn't matter who wins.. this ELECTION matters.'If we "lose OUR ELECTION".. the process , the integrity and the trust.. the rest of that shit doesn't matter. it all goes down the tubes ..no matter the result


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/28/2020 5:40 pm

i don't give a ratz azz.. about what party you belong to..

A country that believes it can legislate morality.. Is doomed to failure. both parties think they can do it..

The republican party especially.. but here's the deal..

Our morality is tied to the election not the results.
Republican don't believe that... they plan to dictate morality through the election.

Although Democrats may think..they think otherwise .. in essence they are hiding doing the same thing.. Democrat just think they don't have to push it.

But what I can guarantee is the destruction if Trump wins.. That destruction will be done by Democrats not Republicans. Democrat will not longer HIDE the fact they need to legislate morality.. they'll embrace it just like the Republicans.. when that happens everything is doomed.

So convince yourself it has to do with policies, and who wins.....,But there is only one win.. When this election is over.. we can still believe in the process. believe in the integrity, and trust the results. That's the win that matters.


LeafReport 73M

10/28/2020 7:45 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    well you don't get it.. It doesn't matter who wins.. this ELECTION matters.'If we "lose OUR ELECTION".. the process , the integrity and the trust.. the rest of that shit doesn't matter. it all goes down the tubes ..no matter the result
That's what I said... How matters only when your focus is on losing. Otherwise people evaluate results...its the what. What are you not comprehending about what appears to be obvious here?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/29/2020 2:39 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    That's what I said... How matters only when your focus is on losing. Otherwise people evaluate results...its the what. What are you not comprehending about what appears to be obvious here?
We are on two different planes here,

""How matters only when your focus is on losing. "

I'm not guessing you don't understand. What you say, means you don't understand.
My gosh, for me its plain as day..To me, you can't get past it. it changes your perception of what i say

THE HOW MATTERS ..WHEN WINNING OR LOSING DOESN'T MATTER. ACCEPTING THE RESULTS BECAUSE THE HOW WAS RIGHT..

I believe in the HOW... not the results.. You can't understand that.'
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Everybody believes that its paramount to get their "right" results... For most, doing it the wrong way but getting the right result is okay. If you get the right results you did it the right way. If you lose you did it the wrong way.

I disagree with Trump and his supporters because they absolutely believe the ends justify the means.... I don't disagree with Trump or his supporters because of what those ends are.

For me, all that matters about Trump is he doesn't do it the right way. For you all that matters is the end result he want to achieve. I want his HOW to change.. You want his WHAT to be changed.... And Your mind has no way of separating the two.
because we agree... in the end results will be the same.

I know Trump can't win if he does it the right way.. Trump knows he can't win if he does it the right way...But you don't give a shit .. his losing to you is all that matters.
I also know.. That if You lose...You will change YOUR HOW... Just like the Republicans did... when Obama won, and they lost.
If that happens we are f*cked... America gets screwed.
Then I won't give a shit about YOUR what....because YOUR HOW will be Wrong.
This will then go full circle.. And YOU will NEVER be able to understand.. just like THEY can't NOW.


TxJW4 81M

10/29/2020 4:13 am

You guys are only playing word games.

Meanwhile bonespur is telling people he will open up the country & keep it open so those willing to work can pay the mortgage & groceries.

Or they can vote Biden who is preaching scared of the virus (shutdown) the country & how in hell do they buy groceries or pay the mortgage ?
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

The treasury is broke & can't pass out $1200 checks anymore.

The news is screaming (Trump says the virus is ending)---------------
The dumb people believe the BS & vote for him while the ones with cerebral capability reason it is best to avoid food stamps, the local charity & vote for him.

I voted Biden. I do not need a job.
I can sit home all day without a care in this world.
But It is something to think about.

People in the work force should think seriously and FAST on this election.
Party On!


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/29/2020 8:39 am

    Quoting TxJW4:
    You guys are only playing word games.

    Meanwhile bonespur is telling people he will open up the country & keep it open so those willing to work can pay the mortgage & groceries.

    Or they can vote Biden who is preaching scared of the virus (shutdown) the country & how in hell do they buy groceries or pay the mortgage ?
    ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    The treasury is broke & can't pass out $1200 checks anymore.

    The news is screaming (Trump says the virus is ending)---------------
    The dumb people believe the BS & vote for him while the ones with cerebral capability reason it is best to avoid food stamps, the local charity & vote for him.

    I voted Biden. I do not need a job.
    I can sit home all day without a care in this world.
    But It is something to think about.

    People in the work force should think seriously and FAST on this election.
    Party On!
We are confronted with short term challenges all the time.. What I am talking talking about is not just about politics.
I believe we can agree that your political party makes very little difference in your life.. It Should all end up pretty much the same... with either party.

The situation you talk about are short term challenges .. that potentially could be long term.
Both parties will attack those problems..in different directions. The Dems will throw money at . The Repubs will throw money at Corporation in the hopes it trickles down. The dems believe they can use the government to solve the problems... the republicans think they can use the economy.
Neither admitting it needs BOTH.

When it come down to it.. The issue is not the policies.. but the ability to adapt..and change policy as WE THE PEOPLE.. to have the ability to approach it in different direction.. have different ways to deal with it.

What is evident in this election is with Trump.. the people have no chance to change policies.. Whatever Trump does is designed to be long term

This election is to prevent that.. We need to be able to change.
If we can.... all the problems you iterate are going to be short term.
If we can't ...some people are going to have to live with it


TxJW4 81M

10/29/2020 4:53 pm

Jiminy I agree.