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jiminycricket1 74M
5508 posts
10/20/2020 7:54 am
Trump has destroyed the "old" political borders


We have grown accustom to political maps State and regions that align with a particular political party..
If you think about he trends of what's happenin Those borders are being destroyed..

I know you would think I'm talking about RED States .. but I'm talking about States..

Besides Trump which has aligned the electorate instead of the regions. There are other factors.

The Democrats in winning this election and the subsequent administration will do two things.. . First it will dismiss the Republican propaganda of their destruction of things. Republicans who have a manipulated false view of Democrats will become more aligned with the truth.

But the big difference will be the opposite.. The Democratic will be disappointed in what having a Democrat administration will mean.

Many Republicans will be more apt to accept Democrats and many Democrats will be more apt to reject established Democrats as underperforming.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/20/2020 8:36 am

Their will be a change in alignment.. Slow, but it will happen.. it always happens.

Once Trump is removed from the equation. Things will get back to more reality.

But We will have forgotten the truest nature of our government, and our reason to remove Trump.
Our government needs to be seen.... but not heard.
Our government needs to go about it business of governing and we need to go about our business of living.
But i don't think that's going to happen
Trump has caused a terrible riff between government and the governed. We as a country will not longer be able to LET the government do it's job..with the belief that it can.

Trump has destroyed our faith in Government, Our faith America. Our faith in Americans, and Our faith in God. You didn't have to have faith in it all.. you just had to have faith in something

Those are things that created our political borders, our parameters, our guardrails.

Those are the things that allowed US to move on, and live on unencumbered.
We speak of freedom.. and yet don't have a clue of what actually creates that for us.. Freedom isn't REAL......You got to have FAITH in it... to have it. You got to believe in it to live it.
All the shit in the world being dumped on You...Doesn't TAKE your Freedom away..
All the haves and havenots don't take your freedom away. A government can't take your your freedom away..

You either LIVE free..Or you don't
the irony about people who don't.. is that they don't want to get it.. they wants to take it away from others. That is their choice about what FREEDOM, means to them.


LeafReport 73M

10/20/2020 9:54 am

Yes, government needs to be seen and not heard. My preference remains the same...I want a center left nation. I also want strong alliances to check Russia but I'm not eager for massive amounts of defense spending, regardless of what China, North Korea and others may be pursuing. America has a boatload of domestic problems and that needs to come first. I don't think the public is in any mood for more foreign military entanglements. The #1 priority of a Biden presidency after COVID has to be an end to this disaster of a trade war. Nobody wins them and once again in spite of what the experts warned...we have discovered we should have listened. The damage of that war is far beyond perception. But, that war can end quickly and if it does it will ignite explosive economic growth, reduce the debt burden and put America back to work. Then other immediate attention must be given to a) fixing, not replacing ObamaCare and b) finding some way to relieve student debt burdens. We are going to have to settle for measured progress. We have to get beyond scorched earth politics and that means compromise. This is where it gets sticky.

America needs to govern from the center. We need a moderate presidency and that is what a Biden/Harris ticket could offer. They can heal the country with action on hot button issues...measured action. Once again moderate governance.

The problem is the kind of governance that is best for America, now, does not align with who Americans are sending to congress. As long as we keep electing politicians that spin reality and whip up non-compromising political bases a moderate government won't emerge and be effective. Worse, it will, as you suggest, result in republicans who reluctantly cave when they have to, and democrats will be frustrating with slow progress of change.

Americans, while perhaps more center thinking than we all admit, have to find comfort with moderate governance. The way to get there is to first abandon the argumentative style, then, position the country with enough stability, hope and a sense of fairness and they will start living their lives again...and governance just happens...even when they aren't looking.

So...we need to shut up the racists and not tolerate it any longer, in any form. We need to do SOMETHING on climate change that creates economic opportunity, we need to raise taxes on the rich, modernize minimum wages, improve the quality of life with much needed infrastructure attention. Lastly, we need to begin listening to one another instead of talking over one another.


LeafReport 73M

10/20/2020 10:25 am

I should have added something on the politics of the country. My hope of course is a democratic congress. I am well aware that when one party gets full control they go too far and the voters have to step in again and break it up. That could happen again, in fact, I would almost bet on it. However, there are a few things that a united government could do to protect us from ourselves.

1. Reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act
2. Pass national background checks on guns
3. Change COLA calculation formula and address Social Security solvency
4. Reform the Voting Rights Act, Implement national holiday for election day or move to weekend voting and through federal statute automatically register citizens at birth
5. Reform immigration system
6. Make it impossible to shut down the government over budget disagreements
7. End the senate filibuster
8. Modernize the Federal Minimum Wage
9. Restrict the use of Acting Appointments at the Executive level
10. Look for a way to address the problem of gerrymandering in the states

All of these things address important issues of fairness that should endure and give people a sense of belonging so they don't feel left out and powerless.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/20/2020 10:53 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    Yes, government needs to be seen and not heard. My preference remains the same...I want a center left nation. I also want strong alliances to check Russia but I'm not eager for massive amounts of defense spending, regardless of what China, North Korea and others may be pursuing. America has a boatload of domestic problems and that needs to come first. I don't think the public is in any mood for more foreign military entanglements. The #1 priority of a Biden presidency after COVID has to be an end to this disaster of a trade war. Nobody wins them and once again in spite of what the experts warned...we have discovered we should have listened. The damage of that war is far beyond perception. But, that war can end quickly and if it does it will ignite explosive economic growth, reduce the debt burden and put America back to work. Then other immediate attention must be given to a) fixing, not replacing ObamaCare and b) finding some way to relieve student debt burdens. We are going to have to settle for measured progress. We have to get beyond scorched earth politics and that means compromise. This is where it gets sticky.

    America needs to govern from the center. We need a moderate presidency and that is what a Biden/Harris ticket could offer. They can heal the country with action on hot button issues...measured action. Once again moderate governance.

    The problem is the kind of governance that is best for America, now, does not align with who Americans are sending to congress. As long as we keep electing politicians that spin reality and whip up non-compromising political bases a moderate government won't emerge and be effective. Worse, it will, as you suggest, result in republicans who reluctantly cave when they have to, and democrats will be frustrating with slow progress of change.

    Americans, while perhaps more center thinking than we all admit, have to find comfort with moderate governance. The way to get there is to first abandon the argumentative style, then, position the country with enough stability, hope and a sense of fairness and they will start living their lives again...and governance just happens...even when they aren't looking.

    So...we need to shut up the racists and not tolerate it any longer, in any form. We need to do SOMETHING on climate change that creates economic opportunity, we need to raise taxes on the rich, modernize minimum wages, improve the quality of life with much needed infrastructure attention. Lastly, we need to begin listening to one another instead of talking over one another.
very good..
The idea that only one way works is bad..
we have to believe that what works is what we are working. That our countries integrity is at stake.. We need to believe that whatever we do can work.. That the integrity.... of that's who we are.

There is a difference between a choice and belief.. we can disagree with the choices... as not the best we can do....But we can't believe the choices we make CAN'T work.
Trump had opened that door..it's not a certainty we can now shut it.

Please notice .. I now always talk about Trump in the past tense..I don't need an election to tell me... it's not about Him any more.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/20/2020 11:09 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    I should have added something on the politics of the country. My hope of course is a democratic congress. I am well aware that when one party gets full control they go too far and the voters have to step in again and break it up. That could happen again, in fact, I would almost bet on it. However, there are a few things that a united government could do to protect us from ourselves.

    1. Reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act
    2. Pass national background checks on guns
    3. Change COLA calculation formula and address Social Security solvency
    4. Reform the Voting Rights Act, Implement national holiday for election day or move to weekend voting and through federal statute automatically register citizens at birth
    5. Reform immigration system
    6. Make it impossible to shut down the government over budget disagreements
    7. End the senate filibuster
    8. Modernize the Federal Minimum Wage
    9. Restrict the use of Acting Appointments at the Executive level
    10. Look for a way to address the problem of gerrymandering in the states

    All of these things address important issues of fairness that should endure and give people a sense of belonging so they don't feel left out and powerless.
Google the 2020 election in kANSAS.. read the articles.. it kind of amazing..

Think about this.. The result of that question.. don't even matter.. What matters is that there is even a question.

The news today is the increase in voting registration for Republicans.. the Republican think that gives them hope..
They are even more stupid than they sound..A lot .. and i mean a lot of the republican voter registration is to maintain the Republican identity but to vote for Biden in this election.

There were many republicans who didn't vote in the last election.. most of them had a reason..They couldn't vote for Trump. Anybody who wanted to vote for Trump did.

Why do you did you think they would be registering to vote for this election.. that all of sudden they like him? My gosh... if you didn't like him to start off with.. It's virtually impossible to like him now.


LeafReport 73M

10/20/2020 1:35 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    Google the 2020 election in kANSAS.. read the articles.. it kind of amazing..

    Think about this.. The result of that question.. don't even matter.. What matters is that there is even a question.

    The news today is the increase in voting registration for Republicans.. the Republican think that gives them hope..
    They are even more stupid than they sound..A lot .. and i mean a lot of the republican voter registration is to maintain the Republican identity but to vote for Biden in this election.

    There were many republicans who didn't vote in the last election.. most of them had a reason..They couldn't vote for Trump. Anybody who wanted to vote for Trump did.

    Why do you did you think they would be registering to vote for this election.. that all of sudden they like him? My gosh... if you didn't like him to start off with.. It's virtually impossible to like him now.
I'm glad you pointed that out. Hope you're right because the registration gap concerns me. I'm getting nervous and a lot less confident than I was 2 weeks agp


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
10/20/2020 7:42 pm

Comparing faith in freedom to faith in God is disingenuous and/or naïve.....


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/21/2020 3:32 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Comparing faith in freedom to faith in God is disingenuous and/or naïve.....
There is obviously no higher power than YOU.

I believe that the God you describe and you talk about DOESN'T EXIST.

I always thought I was a 'good' atheist. God, as other people would project him to me, doesn't exist. I saw their hypocrisy,, It wasn't their belief that I thought was bad .. the hypocrisy was their actions based on that belief.
It takes a "thinker" to understand how something that doesn't exist.. by the fact you know it doesn't exist.. Must exist.
IF IT DOESN'T EXIST.... HOW CAN KNOW IT DOESN'T EXIST?

Let's talk other things you know don't exist... fairies, angels, monsters, ghost? unicorns, mermaids. I agree they don't exist as you would define them. but they exist because you can define them, and your definition is not the same as mine.
You can't accept that...The thing may not exist..but the idea does. I am not that way.. Things you define that DO Exist..Aren't REAL.. they only exist in your idea of what those things are..there is nothing TRUE about anything you believe...except your belief in them.....For me there is no difference between a believer and a non-believer.. It all the same to me. The IDEA that something doesn't exist is the same as the idea it does.

Ps... I have never banned someone from my blog.. but your continuing of this , pulling this shit out of your ass ABOUT ME and not the subject, is making me think I should. WTF? wrong with you?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/21/2020 4:16 am

the question you need to ask..is if I think that.. How could i ever disagree with anybody.. If the idea is always true, and the thing isn't

Well, it entails the lies, and the hypocrisy, and the manipulation.

Donald Trump is my epitome of that..

How many abortions has Donald Trump paid for?

How many lives has Donald trump tried to destroy?

The idea that a non-beleiver and a believer is the same to me....Is based on each perception of truth. They are the baseline of not what is bad and but what is good. Either way one must have integrity in their belief.

i can easily admire someone who is Pro-Life. but they would be like "Saints" to me..... And I don't know any "Saints"

What is really bad is someone who has NO belief at all.. Baser instincts and NO Belief....i.e. Donald Trump.

So it brings it full circle.. How can I not believe there is a God"? When I can believe there is a DEVIl... ie Donald Trump