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Antifa I'm curious about the movement..as I believe NOW, that peaceful protests won't work That the only way confront White Supremacist and Fascist is confront them physically. take them out.. so spea. I don't want join the group..that carries signs, throw eggs and water bottles, and does a lot of spitting.. wears dresses, hangs with gays, and shouts obscenities... and gets beaten and shot. WTF wrong with those people?...I want the REAL STUFF.. I want get it done. I want TERRORIZE WHITE SUPREMACISTS But i got a problem.. i don't know where sign up. I don't know who's in their militia. I don't know anybody that belongs one..I don't know how recognize one. I Can't seem find a place join the group. I guess I am going have become an Antifa of One. Does anybody know...how I could join? |
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I read an article where guns sales have skyrocketed. I haven't gotten mine yet.. but I'm planning on it.. I figure all the White Supremacist.. Already have guns.. so I want to join the new people buying guns. I believe they have the same Motivation that I do.. So if I can't FIND an Antifa group.. i can create my own, from new gun buyers... I could find a White supremacist group.. pretty easily.. All I'd have to do.. is buy a ak47, fatigues, grow a beard, get a swastika tattoo.. buy a motorcycle or pickup truck. fall on my head to obtain brain damage, then cover it up with a MAGA hat. attend a trump rally.. and they will find me. I want to become a Democrap... not the kind that takes it.. but the kind that gives it.
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You could start by wearing all black...
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10/16/2020 12:05 pm |
Sometimes the details don't matter, or shouldn't matter to the masses. For example, many Christians throughout the world, and I am one, frankly feel frustration, a lot of frustration with those among us who are ignorant in their faith. I don't mean to imply a willing ignorance, nor do I suggest, not even for a moment, that my own faith has matured completely. That said, the Israeli government has brutally treated the Palestinian people and they have arrogantly violated international law and stolen land through aggression, illegal annexations and done so in spite of rulings against the government by the Israeli courts. The blind faith support for Israel is not only a political problem, but unfortunately there is a religious component to the blindness as well. Now I don't claim to be a theologian at all - but, that often heard proclamation, that God gave Israel that land...blah, blah. However, there is debate on this in the following context...the promise was never to 'restore' authority once the blessing of it was squandered, through 'disobedience'. I'll leave it up to you to rationalize the suffering ever since. Now, to continue with the point. Thousands of Christian churches all over the world have acted in response to the BDS movement, or at least sympathy with it, by divesting from Israeli companies that are profiting from business entities operating from within stolen land, or in sympathy with the Palestinian plight. I fully support the divestiture because of this government abuse of citizens. It upsets the Israelis, but I'm sick of the greed at all costs policy. I wouldn't care if it drove the nation into bankruptcy, or if the U.S. pulled the plug of economic support on them. That government's arrogance has cost America, and the world billions of dollars and led to tremendous, and unnecessary loss of life and property. It is particularly disturbing to witness American politicians demonstrate ignorance and arrogance with respect to Israel and our Middle East foreign policy. Some of these people are stupid, but many are frankly speaking con man language for political benefit when they know better. It was shameful for John Boehner to invite the corrupt Netanyahu, himself trying desperately to avoid prison, to address the House of Representatives, and blatantly lie to them, and to all of us on national TV. Trust me, millions of Americans knew he was lying. The point here...with respect to BDS, is the big picture...the core irritant if you will, not the means of the movement, or motivations gone askew etc. It's the same sort of thing with Antifa - not an endorsement of means necessarily, but what is core concern? ANTI-FASCISM. So I ask you...when Trump says, why won't Biden condemn Antifa, what is Trump actually saying, when he knows that Biden has never left a gray area behind...he doesn't leave allowances for violence...period. All he wants to do, Trump, is sow distrust to hide his own motivation, that with deep roots in fascist desires for which he has been actively promoting ever since the inauguration speech. He has persistently advanced this crawl in deliberate ways as we both know, with a tremendous degree of indisputable evidence. I'm not 100% confident yet, but should Biden win this thing...I believe he will succeed in uniting the nation. It'll take two years, but I'm confident they will take on these dangerous movements, very confident in the restoration of institutional purpose and power, reemergence of strong international alliances that will thwart Russian adventurism and he will put an end to this disaster of a trade war that has cost companies billions of dollars and left retail shelves empty. The economic pie is, internationally, is big enough for everyone. America first, at all cost, leaves America in the dark alley of decline. You couldn't pay me to own a gun and I will never buy an argument to the contrary. But...while a gun would never be in my future...if Trump and republicans act to steal this election I will be raising hell on earth with a lot of other people.
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10/16/2020 12:07 pm |
I apologize for the lengthy response. If you weren't here to at least offer up something to talk about I wouldn't be here at all. For what it's worth...pissed me off losing to the Raiders.
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Sometimes the details don't matter, or shouldn't matter to the masses. For example, many Christians throughout the world, and I am one, frankly feel frustration, a lot of frustration with those among us who are ignorant in their faith. I don't mean to imply a willing ignorance, nor do I suggest, not even for a moment, that my own faith has matured completely. That said, the Israeli government has brutally treated the Palestinian people and they have arrogantly violated international law and stolen land through aggression, illegal annexations and done so in spite of rulings against the government by the Israeli courts. The blind faith support for Israel is not only a political problem, but unfortunately there is a religious component to the blindness as well. Now I don't claim to be a theologian at all - but, that often heard proclamation, that God gave Israel that land...blah, blah. However, there is debate on this in the following context...the promise was never to 'restore' authority once the blessing of it was squandered, through 'disobedience'. I'll leave it up to you to rationalize the suffering ever since. Now, to continue with the point. Thousands of Christian churches all over the world have acted in response to the BDS movement, or at least sympathy with it, by divesting from Israeli companies that are profiting from business entities operating from within stolen land, or in sympathy with the Palestinian plight. I fully support the divestiture because of this government abuse of citizens. It upsets the Israelis, but I'm sick of the greed at all costs policy. I wouldn't care if it drove the nation into bankruptcy, or if the U.S. pulled the plug of economic support on them. That government's arrogance has cost America, and the world billions of dollars and led to tremendous, and unnecessary loss of life and property. It is particularly disturbing to witness American politicians demonstrate ignorance and arrogance with respect to Israel and our Middle East foreign policy. Some of these people are stupid, but many are frankly speaking con man language for political benefit when they know better. It was shameful for John Boehner to invite the corrupt Netanyahu, himself trying desperately to avoid prison, to address the House of Representatives, and blatantly lie to them, and to all of us on national TV. Trust me, millions of Americans knew he was lying. The point here...with respect to BDS, is the big picture...the core irritant if you will, not the means of the movement, or motivations gone askew etc. It's the same sort of thing with Antifa - not an endorsement of means necessarily, but what is core concern? ANTI-FASCISM. So I ask you...when Trump says, why won't Biden condemn Antifa, what is Trump actually saying, when he knows that Biden has never left a gray area behind...he doesn't leave allowances for violence...period. All he wants to do, Trump, is sow distrust to hide his own motivation, that with deep roots in fascist desires for which he has been actively promoting ever since the inauguration speech. He has persistently advanced this crawl in deliberate ways as we both know, with a tremendous degree of indisputable evidence. I'm not 100% confident yet, but should Biden win this thing...I believe he will succeed in uniting the nation. It'll take two years, but I'm confident they will take on these dangerous movements, very confident in the restoration of institutional purpose and power, reemergence of strong international alliances that will thwart Russian adventurism and he will put an end to this disaster of a trade war that has cost companies billions of dollars and left retail shelves empty. The economic pie is, internationally, is big enough for everyone. America first, at all cost, leaves America in the dark alley of decline. You couldn't pay me to own a gun and I will never buy an argument to the contrary. But...while a gun would never be in my future...if Trump and republicans act to steal this election I will be raising hell on earth with a lot of other people. you talk the things. like Christianity, Israel, Palestine, Guns, Racism.. you pass judgement on it.. like it has it own particular innate ideological attribute to be assessed. Why can't you see, the commonality.....you get choose the thing .. when it's all the same f*cking thing. The problem isn't in WHAT you see.. It's in the way you see it. There would never be an issue... if we all saw it the same. The thing would be what it is. it would just be a thing The only issue then would becomes the process..the application..and the How.. Not the thing itself My blog is intended to be facetious.. We agree there is no such thing as Antifa. but where we differ is I believe there is also no thing as anti-fascism. I believe there is no such thing as anti-Christian, anti-Israel, anti-palestine, anti-racism, anti-abortion, anti-socialism, and anti-Trump....... We have grown accustom to being against something without the need to be for something. WE become against the thing. A thing that has no ideological meaning. I know if I was to tell you .. you were anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian.. you would disagree. it's not the simple.. Then why do you make it that simple.? Healthcare is not ideological, yet we continually make it ideological. Like somehow the word healthcare is a magic bullet to express an ideology. The CoVid virus is not an ideology, taxes are not an ideology. abortion is not an ideology.. we tend to express the ideology in those things. until we can forget what our f*cking ideology even is. It 's like you can be ant-fascist.. and totally not realize what being a constitutional democracy is.. The other side is anti-liberal and they do the same thing.. So I got to choose between anti-fascist and anti-socialist.. .When I see it my way.. it's all the same.. Anti-fascist , anti-socialist. it's exactly the same. It says nothing to me what you are.. It's says what you think am, that I can't be. Things aren't ideologies.. Why do we continually express ideology by things? That's bull shit.
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be careful my ideas can drive you nuts. for example.....I think it's okay to assume someone can't think a bad think.. if you can think it... it's a good thing.. Alright.. so a bad thing can't exist because you can't think it. So when a bad thing exist.....it's really doesn't exist.. you just think it exists but if you think it .. it can't really be a bad thing????  LOL
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10/16/2020 4:06 pm |
I don't why you can't see it.. you talk the things. like Christianity, Israel, Palestine, Guns, Racism.. you pass judgement on it.. like it has it own particular innate ideological attribute to be assessed. Why can't you see, the commonality.....you get choose the thing .. when it's all the same f*cking thing. The problem isn't in WHAT you see.. It's in the way you see it. There would never be an issue... if we all saw it the same. The thing would be what it is. it would just be a thing The only issue then would becomes the process..the application..and the How.. Not the thing itself My blog is intended to be facetious.. We agree there is no such thing as Antifa. but where we differ is I believe there is also no thing as anti-fascism. I believe there is no such thing as anti-Christian, anti-Israel, anti-palestine, anti-racism, anti-abortion, anti-socialism, and anti-Trump....... We have grown accustom to being against something without the need to be for something. WE become against the thing. A thing that has no ideological meaning. I know if I was to tell you .. you were anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian.. you would disagree. it's not the simple.. Then why do you make it that simple.? Healthcare is not ideological, yet we continually make it ideological. Like somehow the word healthcare is a magic bullet to express an ideology. The CoVid virus is not an ideology, taxes are not an ideology. abortion is not an ideology.. we tend to express the ideology in those things. until we can forget what our f*cking ideology even is. It 's like you can be ant-fascist.. and totally not realize what being a constitutional democracy is.. The other side is anti-liberal and they do the same thing.. So I got to choose between anti-fascist and anti-socialist.. .When I see it my way.. it's all the same.. Anti-fascist , anti-socialist. it's exactly the same. It says nothing to me what you are.. It's says what you think am, that I can't be. Things aren't ideologies.. Why do we continually express ideology by things? That's bull shit.
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Well that's a bridge to far for me Cricket. I addressed a question on the minds of many. labels are what something represents.. but what something represents is only a part of what it is. a label makes it all. the thing gets branded and confused by what labels it, from what it really is A liberal , for example is a label.. How a liberal sees it is only part of what it is... and how a conservatives sees it is only part of it is. Yet each denies the other part. sometimes you talk in labels.. But whether you talk in labels or not .. people hear labels. So the things isn't the thing.. It something else. it's an unrealistic perception. Part true, part lie, and nobody really knows what part is which. you are labeling when you talk of Democrats and Republicans... an you are labeling when you talk of Israel and Palestine. it's not WHAT you say.. But how you say it that makes it a label
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10/16/2020 6:41 pm |
The point of your blog was obvious...i apologize for hijacking it for something rational.
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10/16/2020 6:47 pm |
On Israel thanks...you demonstrate exactly my point...the ole forest for the trees...oh well...moving on
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On Israel thanks...you demonstrate exactly my point...the ole forest for the trees...oh well...moving on Why do you assume.. i disagree with you? you're not lying, with what you say... I posed a question.. I answered for you.. was that a mistake..? Let's be direct... Are you Anti-Israel?...and Pro-Palistinian.....I figure you understood it's not that simple...Now you have to answer the question. I will assume nothing. You see .. I didn't prove your point .. you proved mine.. Even as I TRY NOT to apply the label....you hear the label. My forest isn't just trees.. It's all kinds of different trees.
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Sometimes the details don't matter, or shouldn't matter to the masses. For example, many Christians throughout the world, and I am one, frankly feel frustration, a lot of frustration with those among us who are ignorant in their faith. I don't mean to imply a willing ignorance, nor do I suggest, not even for a moment, that my own faith has matured completely. That said, the Israeli government has brutally treated the Palestinian people and they have arrogantly violated international law and stolen land through aggression, illegal annexations and done so in spite of rulings against the government by the Israeli courts. The blind faith support for Israel is not only a political problem, but unfortunately there is a religious component to the blindness as well. Now I don't claim to be a theologian at all - but, that often heard proclamation, that God gave Israel that land...blah, blah. However, there is debate on this in the following context...the promise was never to 'restore' authority once the blessing of it was squandered, through 'disobedience'. I'll leave it up to you to rationalize the suffering ever since. Now, to continue with the point. Thousands of Christian churches all over the world have acted in response to the BDS movement, or at least sympathy with it, by divesting from Israeli companies that are profiting from business entities operating from within stolen land, or in sympathy with the Palestinian plight. I fully support the divestiture because of this government abuse of citizens. It upsets the Israelis, but I'm sick of the greed at all costs policy. I wouldn't care if it drove the nation into bankruptcy, or if the U.S. pulled the plug of economic support on them. That government's arrogance has cost America, and the world billions of dollars and led to tremendous, and unnecessary loss of life and property. It is particularly disturbing to witness American politicians demonstrate ignorance and arrogance with respect to Israel and our Middle East foreign policy. Some of these people are stupid, but many are frankly speaking con man language for political benefit when they know better. It was shameful for John Boehner to invite the corrupt Netanyahu, himself trying desperately to avoid prison, to address the House of Representatives, and blatantly lie to them, and to all of us on national TV. Trust me, millions of Americans knew he was lying. The point here...with respect to BDS, is the big picture...the core irritant if you will, not the means of the movement, or motivations gone askew etc. It's the same sort of thing with Antifa - not an endorsement of means necessarily, but what is core concern? ANTI-FASCISM. So I ask you...when Trump says, why won't Biden condemn Antifa, what is Trump actually saying, when he knows that Biden has never left a gray area behind...he doesn't leave allowances for violence...period. All he wants to do, Trump, is sow distrust to hide his own motivation, that with deep roots in fascist desires for which he has been actively promoting ever since the inauguration speech. He has persistently advanced this crawl in deliberate ways as we both know, with a tremendous degree of indisputable evidence. I'm not 100% confident yet, but should Biden win this thing...I believe he will succeed in uniting the nation. It'll take two years, but I'm confident they will take on these dangerous movements, very confident in the restoration of institutional purpose and power, reemergence of strong international alliances that will thwart Russian adventurism and he will put an end to this disaster of a trade war that has cost companies billions of dollars and left retail shelves empty. The economic pie is, internationally, is big enough for everyone. America first, at all cost, leaves America in the dark alley of decline. You couldn't pay me to own a gun and I will never buy an argument to the contrary. But...while a gun would never be in my future...if Trump and republicans act to steal this election I will be raising hell on earth with a lot of other people. I have been working on my spontaneous, intuitive expression using large sheet of paper, charcoal and paint and comparing it to what I was painting 10 years, the last time I ventured into Natalie Goldberg.......We strive to communicate on different level, but we always rely on labels, whichever of the senses it addresses..
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As you look upon it..can't you recognized their are many types of trees but only one forest. Why do you assume.. i disagree with you? you're not lying, with what you say... I posed a question.. I answered for you.. was that a mistake..? Let's be direct... Are you Anti-Israel?...and Pro-Palistinian.....I figure you understood it's not that simple...Now you have to answer the question. I will assume nothing. You see .. I didn't prove your point .. you proved mine.. Even as I TRY NOT to apply the label....you hear the label. My forest isn't just trees.. It's all kinds of different trees. You, however, when you see ambiguity in communication, instead of giving the other person credit for appreciating the unstated, you create chaos......You crash the apple-cart......Instead of assisting understanding, you snarl the works.......You make assumptions about what the other person is thinking.......Why do you have this great need to believe that you are the only one who has a complex thinking process?...
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You seem to think that you are the only one with ambiguities.......No one believes that their stated take on any situation is a perfect communication, I certainly have always worked at refining my communication skills. You, however, when you see ambiguity in communication, instead of giving the other person credit for appreciating the unstated, you create chaos......You crash the apple-cart......Instead of assisting understanding, you snarl the works.......You make assumptions about what the other person is thinking.......Why do you have this great need to believe that you are the only one who has a complex thinking process?... if i was you but not if you see that I am me. You're doing it again don''t ask me.. tell me. .. I do have a problem...In discussing things.. It's my confusion, between You, me, and We. First person , second person and third person..I speak for all..It doesn't clarify things. I have no disagreement with You.. although You presume i do. but there is a disagreement out there..somewhere and someone with you.. Why is that? who's responsibility is that? I'm so bad.. I feel responsible for the disagreement you think we have that doesn't exist. I don't see ambiguity in what leaf says..unless what I see is wrong. if it is.. he needs to tell me. Leaf hasn't answered my question.. Is leaf anti-Israel?..If he is fine.. I am wrong. I don't go along with inferences.. Inferences are labels. if he isn't.. there are a lot of "other" people.. who think he is. They infer he is by what he says If he is and states he is.. then I'm fine with it..and I have been screwing up the works...not because i see ambiguity. but because I'm wrong. his inference/label is actually what he believes if he isn't....he doesn't need to explain to me... he needs to explain to those who think he is. Now maybe you don't understand .. but i give leaf the benefit of the doubt.. more than anyone else here.
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10/17/2020 11:58 am |
As you look upon it..can't you recognized their are many types of trees but only one forest. Why do you assume.. i disagree with you? you're not lying, with what you say... I posed a question.. I answered for you.. was that a mistake..? Let's be direct... Are you Anti-Israel?...and Pro-Palistinian.....I figure you understood it's not that simple...Now you have to answer the question. I will assume nothing. You see .. I didn't prove your point .. you proved mine.. Even as I TRY NOT to apply the label....you hear the label. My forest isn't just trees.. It's all kinds of different trees. The point here...with respect to BDS, is the big picture...the core irritant if you will, not the means of the movement, or motivations gone askew etc. It's the same sort of thing with Antifa - not an endorsement of means necessarily, but what is core concern? ANTI-FASCISM. So I ask you...when Trump says, why won't Biden condemn Antifa, what is Trump actually saying, when he knows that Biden has never left a gray area behind...he doesn't leave allowances for violence...period. With respect to Israel, that's EXACTLY my point...people automatically assume it's one or the other....many idiots automatically toss out the anti-semite bullshit without comprehending the big picture. I don't need to answer that insulting question...because I GAVE YOU THE FRICKEN ANSWER...LOL No sir, my friend, wandering in the forest is just as misguided as wandering in a desert.
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That would be true... if i was you but not if you see that I am me. You're doing it again don''t ask me.. tell me. .. I do have a problem...In discussing things.. It's my confusion, between You, me, and We. First person , second person and third person..I speak for all..It doesn't clarify things. I have no disagreement with You.. although You presume i do. but there is a disagreement out there..somewhere and someone with you.. Why is that? who's responsibility is that? I'm so bad.. I feel responsible for the disagreement you think we have that doesn't exist. I don't see ambiguity in what leaf says..unless what I see is wrong. if it is.. he needs to tell me. Leaf hasn't answered my question.. Is leaf anti-Israel?..If he is fine.. I am wrong. I don't go along with inferences.. Inferences are labels. if he isn't.. there are a lot of "other" people.. who think he is. They infer he is by what he says If he is and states he is.. then I'm fine with it..and I have been screwing up the works...not because i see ambiguity. but because I'm wrong. his inference/label is actually what he believes if he isn't....he doesn't need to explain to me... he needs to explain to those who think he is. Now maybe you don't understand .. but i give leaf the benefit of the doubt.. more than anyone else here. You talk about labels, but insist on someone labeling their take on an extremely complex situation as either pro or con.......what's your point?
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You assume that I think you have a disagreement with me.....I don't. That's your presumption, not mine.....What I'm saying is that your insertion of chaos into a discussion doesn't help the communication in any way,....it just throws a wrench into the works and is the antithesis of clarification........ You talk about labels, but insist on someone labeling their take on an extremely complex situation as either pro or con.......what's your point? NO NO NO.. that's absolutely wrong.......I telling them not to label it. the ambiguity is not about me.. it about the way they say it. My gosh it all around Us.. the ambiguity, the inference, the label. I don't take ANYTHING, anymore at face value.. because that's never what it is.. you think I talk in riddles.. hell everybody does it. "You assume that I think you have a disagreement with me.....I don't. That's your presumption, not mine Well disagreement may not be the exact right word. We talk on different planes.. You have a problem understanding me.. I don't have a problem understanding you.. I understand everything you say.. now does that mean you have better communication skills than I do..maybe... but if you do.. I still have better listening skills I try to change the plane.. but you never budge. I'm tired of it.. you don't give an inch.. and I have too many frequent flyer miles.
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You're hilarious......"I don't have a problem understanding you...I understand everything you say.".........and "I have better listening skills." You have said the same thing to me many times........What you don't understand is that you don't understand.......You're just merrily skipping along assuming that you understand everything I say........and therefore have superior listening skills.......You can't see your own massively arrogant assumptions....... You refuse to take any responsibility for misunderstandings in spite of the fact that most of the people on this site have given up trying to have a conversation with you because of your chaotic expression......What in the world gives you the idea that you understand everything I'm saying?.....Or what anyone is saying.....Human communication is rife with misunderstanding...Being fluent in two languages and being familiar with a third makes that obvious......There are untranslatable words... .
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You're hilarious......"I don't have a problem understanding you...I understand everything you say.".........and "I have better listening skills." You have said the same thing to me many times........What you don't understand is that you don't understand.......You're just merrily skipping along assuming that you understand everything I say........and therefore have superior listening skills.......You can't see your own massively arrogant assumptions....... You refuse to take any responsibility for misunderstandings in spite of the fact that most of the people on this site have given up trying to have a conversation with you because of your chaotic expression......What in the world gives you the idea that you understand everything I'm saying?.....Or what anyone is saying.....Human communication is rife with misunderstanding...Being fluent in two languages and being familiar with a third makes that obvious......There are untranslatable words... . it goes the same everytime..What causes it? Other than you stubborn, narrow view about God. Your inability to see the subjective idea of it..I have never tried to disparage anything you have written as your own idea. everytime.. you see the conflict as my response to your response but You start it everytime. Our conflict comes when you respond to my ideas. it happen all the time, everytime. At first .. I didn't notice.. It was just conversation.. but a pattern developed.. What I said didn't matter, no matter the subject.. , It was personal. Can't you see I'm tired of it.? Just leave me alone
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Listen. it goes the same everytime..What causes it? Other than you stubborn, narrow view about God. Your inability to see the subjective idea of it..I have never tried to disparage anything you have written as your own idea. everytime.. you see the conflict as my response to your response but You start it everytime. Our conflict comes when you respond to my ideas. it happen all the time, everytime. At first .. I didn't notice.. It was just conversation.. but a pattern developed.. What I said didn't matter, no matter the subject.. , It was personal. Can't you see I'm tired of it.? Just leave me alone Of course I acknowledge that the idea of "God" exits.....the concept has been with us for tens of thousands of years, in many forms......as has many other abstract concepts.......The God concept you bring up is much more explicit than you will admit........It is a God that fits neatly into the Western Christian concept of God........ The concept of freedom, though it is also conceptualized and abstracted and has different meanings for different people, it has real-world consequences......The US,for instance is always going on about being the most free country on Earth, yet has the highest incarceration rate of any developed country on Earth......The US sacrifices the freedom of children to feel safe in their schools for the freedom of others to carry lethal weapons on the street........The freedom of industry to pollute the environment for the freedom of others to exist without the consequences of the pollution......Other countries have other priorities that they call freedom......What version of freedom do you have faith in? ....We can measure and evaluate freedom......God, not so much.
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