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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
10/13/2020 6:39 am
Banning Abortion...


One can make an assumption that the unborn has rights. and States can decide whether 2 ban abortions.. probably will happen.

How does one get around that... and still allow States 2 ban abortion.

Government interference in healthcare.. ACCOUNTABILITY

It's would be difficult for any state 2 deny. that any pregnancy is a matter of healthcare.

That any law banning something that is a matter of healthcare.. becomes the responsibility of the state provide the complete healthcare..in which the banning would have an effect..

So any state that bans abortion.. takes on the responsibility for the entire pregnancy, the women health and the unborn health both during the pregnancy and postpartum.
Any State that interferes with healthcare choices.. takes on the the responsibility for that healthcare.

All Pregnancies in that state.. should be provided healthcare for that pregnancy and healthcare for the when it is born.

Let's see how that will fly with Pro-Life people. Let's see how that will fly in Pro-life States. ... If you're going "cook" it.. you got eat it.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/13/2020 7:09 am

The truth, banning abortion increases healthcare costs. Both individually and as a group. Increases healthcare insurance cost..Increases women's per-existing cost...increases overall medical cost and expenses.

Banning abortion can be construed as unfair taxation of families especially women. Not only that but and unfair taxation for those who are not involved in the decision but must absorb the increase in healthcare costs and insurance costs

Can be construed as government interference in healthcare.

Can be construed as forced medical care....Can be construed as a banning of healthcare choices. Government interference in the pursuit of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness by forced "taxation" without representation.. A reduction of freedom, and mandating a specific group to pay additional without options.

Planned Parenthood.. would no longer be banned because of abortion but a required State run organization for the health and welfare of the pregnant women and the unborn child. All expenses absorbed by the state.

You can't have it to both ways.. the government can be involved in dictating healthcare. but isn't responsible for the healthcare..it's dictating.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/13/2020 1:12 pm

I think it's important to understand the overall concept of what iam talking and my response to the individual above..

The specific subject was Columbus Day..as a holiday.. but it was about representation.. what things represent that they really don't.. How gullible people can be convince of a false representation..

So it was about what things represent and who determines that. my point was whether it's about America, The flag, or the Constitution...whether its about the presidency, the Supreme court, or the legislature.. whether its about taxation, healthcare, racism or abortion.. The true gullibility is if you think, it ONLY can represent what You think it represents..

My second respond to the individual.

I imagine your first response was facetious.. but either way i don't care if you're liberal or conservative.. I don't know the "correct answer".... so i would gladly allow you my proxy.. I would gladly allow YOU to control what is the "correct answer"..Since there is none..yours is as good as any.
But what we have learned from people who want to control the "correct answer", and who they are.. and what they DON'T think..is that

"Control means responsibility and responsibility means accountability."

What we should have learned from this time and place.
Is control doesn't mean you can have it...DO IT.... and then walk away from it.
It may seem to you that I'm picking on you. I'm singling you out..That only you would make that decision for US and walk away. That's not true... there's a shitload of "You".. out there.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/13/2020 1:27 pm

There are people out there that don't believe in healthcare.. don't believe in vaccines, or any medical treatment at all that circumvents Gods will.

Most all of those people are Pro-lifer.. They call an abortion murder..

The irony is unbelievable..

A parent who does not provide medical care to a child, who because of it dies. They have control of the life of a born child. But a mother don't have control of an unborn child?

They accuse others of Murder? WTF ... Murder is only murder if it's someone else child?