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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
9/21/2020 9:01 am
Roe vs Sperm


What cums first... the chicken or the egg? Well it's pretty obvious the chicken has cum first!

It is apparent that reproduction is a function of God's plan.
God's decides reproduction not man.

Man's interference in reproduction can not be a CHOICE..

It's is apparent that reproduction, birth and birth rights is in the hands of God.

For example..R*pe may be an assault..and a crime.. but any reproduction from a r*pe is not a Crime..

So that takes US the idea that medical procedures of medical interference in reproduction is not warranted under any circumstance..

Men receive medical procedures and procedures of Choice.. either prevent reproduction or enhance reproduction .. A medical procedure or a choice prevent or allow reproduction is man's interference with God's decisions.

be consistent with God.. Men must be prevented from receiving medical procedure that effect their ability reproduce as the sole reason for that procedure..

Men's rights and choices need be made illegal in regards Reproduction.

So the Case of Roe vs Wade.. needs be rethought in regards human rights and making choice EQUAL.. Men must also not have a choice.
It's really Roe vs Sperm.
LMAO!


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/21/2020 9:19 am

The point of this blog...is what would happen if the gender roles for pregnancy were reversed.
Would the US government be able to take CHOICE away from MEN?
Now many will say in regards to abortion ..The Federal Government is taking men's choice away.
WTF? are you just stupid.. Women will have to live with it..men can just walk away.

Can you imagine the Federal government telling men.."Tough shit.. You got to live with it"


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/21/2020 9:56 am

And what if almost all the law-makers were Women....


TxJW_77 81M

9/21/2020 12:37 pm

Jiminy in that case men would do the same as women do now. They would say to hell with the law---------- I do exactly as I choose to do and you old guys can take a flying leap. Women can and do think for themselves. The old guys who make the rules can stuff it.
Movie to that effect----Other Side Of Sunday----set in early 50s Norway.
Party On!


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/21/2020 5:10 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    And what if almost all the law-makers were Women....
And what if almost all the law-makers were Women.?????????????

WTF are you talking about?
I say... what if men got pregnant? What would they think of Roe v Wade then?..and you say... what if all law-maker were women. what are you brain dead?


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/21/2020 8:29 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    And what if almost all the law-makers were Women.?????????????

    WTF are you talking about?
    I say... what if men got pregnant? What would they think of Roe v Wade then?..and you say... what if all law-maker were women. what are you brain dead?
"The point of this blog...is what would happen if the gender roles for pregnancy were reversed."

If the gender roles for pregnancy were reversed, the gender roles of the lawmakers should also be reversed.......Almost all the lawmakers whose opinions have effected a woman's right to choose have been male......if you set up an imaginary scenario that switches gender roles in the actual pregnancy, then it only makes sense to also switch the gender roles of those who make the laws about medical interference with said pregnancy........


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/22/2020 5:24 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    "The point of this blog...is what would happen if the gender roles for pregnancy were reversed."

    If the gender roles for pregnancy were reversed, the gender roles of the lawmakers should also be reversed.......Almost all the lawmakers whose opinions have effected a woman's right to choose have been male......if you set up an imaginary scenario that switches gender roles in the actual pregnancy, then it only makes sense to also switch the gender roles of those who make the laws about medical interference with said pregnancy........
Okay/..Now I understand where your coming from..
We define" gender roles" differently..

For me.... it's made up shit.
For you.... it's the real deal

As such we define equality, empathy, and compassion..differently as it applies to "gender roles"

Beside the fact that Men are defined by having and being a "dick" and women defined as the baby makers. I don't see any difference.
So other than the role reversal that has to do with those things, everything else is meaningless.
Because you have a hard time interpreting what i say....I am saying your ideas are not a solution.. they are the justification and the CAUSE.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/22/2020 8:43 am

I also define "gender" as a social construct and gender-expression is chosen. Sex, however, cannot be chosen.....and reproduction is sex-based, not gender-based.

You say my "ideas" are not a solution....they are the justification and the cause.

In that case, what are your "ideas" a solution for?.....

" So other than the role-reversal that has to do with those things, everything is meaningless."...........Do you suggesting here that American lawmaker's gender expression and biological sex has has nothing to do with how they interpret the law?.....


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/22/2020 9:47 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I also define "gender" as a social construct and gender-expression is chosen. Sex, however, cannot be chosen.....and reproduction is sex-based, not gender-based.

    You say my "ideas" are not a solution....they are the justification and the cause.

    In that case, what are your "ideas" a solution for?.....

    " So other than the role-reversal that has to do with those things, everything is meaningless."...........Do you suggesting here that American lawmaker's gender expression and biological sex has has nothing to do with how they interpret the law?.....


Well, other than sex reproduction there is no difference.. Equality means men and women should treat the issues the same. Women in power should do the exact same RIGHT things... men in power should do..
There is so much evidence... that women do what men do...and men do what women do. Even though you don't see it that way. differences actually are in the individual not in the gender

now granted... that's not the case.. the reason and justification for that not being the case... is men and women are NOT EQUAL.
You promote that... men and women not being equal.. is the "cause" you promote.
To believe women lawmakers would DO differently... Leaves doing "right" out in the cold. Doing RIGHT for women, or doing RIGHT for men..as being different promotes inequality..

Like sex.. Does it really matter who's on top? LOL


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/22/2020 7:32 pm

Nope.....I'm not promoting a "cause" that men and women are not equal.....I'm just referring to the situation as it stands. I spent all of the 90's on a healing journey from ongoing child sexual abuse. After many years, I felt compelled to give back....to help other women who had gone through similar ordeals......Fortunately for me, our Province elected a woman to the highest political position and she put money into programs that helped women......This gave me the freedom to do my work.....

I was paid to learn from innovators....The BC Justice Institute....which also educates the Police, took up the challenge to develop programs for a task force to educate law-makers and law practitioners about sexual abuse.....Part of what I did was to start local programs and to put on workshops .to educate lawyers, city councillors, judges and magistrates about the women's viewpoint in cases of child sexual abuse, ra*pe, violence against women in many scenarios....

.The women who taught me were amazing....One of them had started a circle-sentencing community program in the NWT that was revolutionary in cases of non-violent crimes .....

In the last several years I have been watching instances of US lawmaker who are frantically making state laws that put the kibosh on Roe vs.......I listened to male lawmakers who have no idea how a Woman's body functions, but see themselves as qualified to make her reproductive choices........Don't tell me it's a level playing. field.

I won't bore you further, but I just wanted you give you a glimpse into my reality and my history of working with male lawmakers who are eager to understand the woman's point of view in a system that has historically been dominated by the male perspective.....


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/22/2020 7:34 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Nope.....I'm not promoting a "cause" that men and women are not equal.....I'm just referring to the situation as it stands. I spent all of the 90's on a healing journey from ongoing child sexual abuse. After many years, I felt compelled to give back....to help other women who had gone through similar ordeals......Fortunately for me, our Province elected a woman to the highest political position and she put money into programs that helped women......This gave me the freedom to do my work.....I was paid to learn from innovators....The BC Justice Institute....which also educates the Police, took up the challenge to develop programs for a task force to educate law-makers and law practitioners about sexual abuse.....Part of what I did was to start local programs and to put on workshops .to educate lawyers, city councillors, judges and magistrates about the women's viewpoint in cases of child sexual abuse, ra*pe, violence against women in many scenarios.....The women who taught me were amazing....One of them had started a circle-sentencing community program in the NWT that was revolutionary in cases of non-violent crimes .....In the last several years I have been watching instances of US lawmaker who are frantically making state laws that push the kibosh on Roe vs.......I listened to male lawmakers who have no idea how a Woman's body functions, but see themselves as qualified to make her reproductive choices........Don't tell me it's an level playing. field.

    I won't bore you further, but I just wanted you give you a glimpse into my reality and my history of working with male lawmakers who are eager to understand the woman's point of view in a system that has historically been dominated by the male perspective.....
Finally.. Thank you for saying something that actually matters.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/22/2020 9:43 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    Finally.. Thank you for saying something that actually matters.
Thank you for your approval.....I'm always waiting with bated breath for your exalted opinion as to what "actually matters".......