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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
9/17/2020 2:55 am
The equality of The Good, The Bad and The Ugly


It's a sad case of affair.. equality..

When one searches for the "higher ground" in a valley of dread. only 2 discover there is no higher ground.

Of course there is an idea in this country about racism and what it means.
Faulting white people for their greed, elitism, prejudice, justifications, bias, advantage taking and controL

It's a sad state of affair..EQUALITY.. as a "thing" about racism. that equality can be measured by equal power and controL. that, that measure is about race. When true power can be found in one's heart, and the only control that meaningful is the one you have over yourself. In that we are Equal.

Yet, We are not equal in regards 2 race.
White people tend 2 see it that way.. it makes them bad and it's wronG
Black People see it that way and it makes them good and it's right

But the truer irony about racism is we are EQUAL in RACE....In the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly...
There is no difference between Black and White.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/17/2020 3:15 am

When OJ Simpson was on trial.. he was accused of playing the "race card"..I imagine some blacks believed him...But I think most Blacks Understood what he was doing.
he was trying to take advantage..Just because his skin color was black.
it was a sad day. Because IT WORKED.

Since that time.. It became a "fait accompli".. If someone got to use it who didn't deserve to .. Then it even more right for someone who at least deserves it consideration.

This isn't a "Black thing" it a human thing. We ALL do it

Since OJ Simpson the "race card" has been played like a fiddle.

To hear the Mayor of Compton say that it was wrong to shoot two police officers in Compton as they sat in their car..
YET, she said,,, You Still one needs to "consider" what's causing it?

Ah yes! Playing the "race card"
I say.. F*ck That..and the horse she rode in on.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/17/2020 3:38 am

When there is killing, rioting, looting and burning.. if One needs to consider what's causing it.. The lack of EQUALITY?.. That's bullshit..

It is a lack of human Equality.. The power in ones heart and the control of one's self..has been lost.. Those who perpetrate have lost it.. They are not the victims. just like the Trump's of the world, they are the cause. .. They are not unequal because of social injustice.. They are unequal because they are inhumane.
To try and create justification... When there is NO justification.


lilium6 74F
4498 posts
9/17/2020 9:05 pm

I say.. F*ck That..and the horse she rode in on.

But Jiminy, surely the horse is innocent - 'I'm only (a) horse after all, don't put the blame on me' (a play on 'Human' by Rag 'n Bone Man)


lilium6 74F
4498 posts
9/17/2020 9:07 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    When there is killing, rioting, looting and burning.. if One needs to consider what's causing it.. The lack of EQUALITY?.. That's bullshit..

    It is a lack of human Equality.. The power in ones heart and the control of one's self..has been lost.. Those who perpetrate have lost it.. They are not the victims. just like the Trump's of the world, they are the cause. .. They are not unequal because of social injustice.. They are unequal because they are inhumane.
    To try and create justification... When there is NO justification.
What you're saying makes sense to me.


LeafReport 73M

9/18/2020 3:37 am

I think what you miss here is the human element of injustice and where it leads. I'm not saying you are to blame, but you're human in analysis. After all, there is but one 'perfect' savior. Bringing clarity to a complicated matter and choosing race to accomplish it invites unnecessary feelings. Utopian thinking can ensnare us all at times. But when you get beyond that, you see a more tolerant purpose, even if it is a painful one. Growing up kids will sometimes learn the hard way, but so do adults and for everyone the consequences can be severe, and also dependent on the grace of others. There is a difference between seeking a more perfect union, and demanding one without first allowing for the process. It's a dilemma for those responsible for the desired outcome. Building cars was a lot easier for Henry Ford when they were all black. When life became colorful for the industry they didn't have enough of some colors, and they couldn't get rid of others. In seeking a more perfect union we accept the reality of pursuit...the time it takes to get there and the mistakes along the way. The Israelites wandered for 40 years. The fight for racial equality is certainly an arduous one. Managing emotions is complicated because we are ALL human, and imperfect. But there is equality in imperfection with the analyst who can't find blame, the analyst who thinks he can, the guy who was 'tempted' by a free 6 pack, and the cop who lost it in the first place. There is no debate over the consequence of failing to learn from all 4 mistakes. God warned us but he also left us with a way out. The beat goes on...one step at a time. I think John Lewis said it best...sometimes you need 'good' trouble. It's not about tolerating bad trouble...its about tolerating imperfection on the way to something better. Forgiveness is like that...a cleansing to enable learning. Using an example of race to make a case for equality misses the point. Martin Luther King made this very clear. What is 'just' God made clear. Just ask Jonah, or the money changers in the Temple, or Job, or Peter, or James.

How timely Woodward's book is...and how appropriate to title it "RAGE". The consequences have certainly been identifiable, but it's the process, the election that is what is just...one person, one vote - equality on the way to a more perfect union. Let's just hope there isn't a consequence we don't want to experience.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/18/2020 5:45 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    I think what you miss here is the human element of injustice and where it leads. I'm not saying you are to blame, but you're human in analysis. After all, there is but one 'perfect' savior. Bringing clarity to a complicated matter and choosing race to accomplish it invites unnecessary feelings. Utopian thinking can ensnare us all at times. But when you get beyond that, you see a more tolerant purpose, even if it is a painful one. Growing up kids will sometimes learn the hard way, but so do adults and for everyone the consequences can be severe, and also dependent on the grace of others. There is a difference between seeking a more perfect union, and demanding one without first allowing for the process. It's a dilemma for those responsible for the desired outcome. Building cars was a lot easier for Henry Ford when they were all black. When life became colorful for the industry they didn't have enough of some colors, and they couldn't get rid of others. In seeking a more perfect union we accept the reality of pursuit...the time it takes to get there and the mistakes along the way. The Israelites wandered for 40 years. The fight for racial equality is certainly an arduous one. Managing emotions is complicated because we are ALL human, and imperfect. But there is equality in imperfection with the analyst who can't find blame, the analyst who thinks he can, the guy who was 'tempted' by a free 6 pack, and the cop who lost it in the first place. There is no debate over the consequence of failing to learn from all 4 mistakes. God warned us but he also left us with a way out. The beat goes on...one step at a time. I think John Lewis said it best...sometimes you need 'good' trouble. It's not about tolerating bad trouble...its about tolerating imperfection on the way to something better. Forgiveness is like that...a cleansing to enable learning. Using an example of race to make a case for equality misses the point. Martin Luther King made this very clear. What is 'just' God made clear. Just ask Jonah, or the money changers in the Temple, or Job, or Peter, or James.

    How timely Woodward's book is...and how appropriate to title it "RAGE". The consequences have certainly been identifiable, but it's the process, the election that is what is just...one person, one vote - equality on the way to a more perfect union. Let's just hope there isn't a consequence we don't want to experience.
Well, in my view injustice is Not a racial thing..it's a human thing.

The point of the blog..is people don't see it that way.. That doesn't mean racism doesn't exist.. it exists all over the fricken place...It means it's a human thing not a white thing.

I disagree with Republicans because they actually DO and think stupid things
It's like trying to judge the actions of insane people

I disagree with liberals because they are hypocrites. Choosing to buy into equality and compassion..like they are going shopping., like compassion and equality can be a selection process.

In the realm of race,, neither Liberal or Republican defines it. You don't have to be Republican to be stupid, self serving and a liar,, You don't have to be a Liberal to be compassionate ,

In my view i see just as many Republicans who are compassionate. as i do Liberals who are self serving and STUPID. And the Black and White of it, makes no difference
Black people use the justification card to think they should get away with it. Ask not what you can do for your country.. ask what your country can do for YOU. You're ENTITLED

Equal Justice under the law.. WTF? don't you understand about that?
A Republican idea of control and punishment.. or a liberal Hypocrisy?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/18/2020 9:00 am

    Quoting lilium6:
    I say.. F*ck That..and the horse she rode in on.

    But Jiminy, surely the horse is innocent - 'I'm only (a) horse after all, don't put the blame on me' (a play on 'Human' by Rag 'n Bone Man)

I certainly didn't mean to personify the "horse'.. It represents both the person and the "vehicle" they are using.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/18/2020 9:48 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    I think what you miss here is the human element of injustice and where it leads. I'm not saying you are to blame, but you're human in analysis. After all, there is but one 'perfect' savior. Bringing clarity to a complicated matter and choosing race to accomplish it invites unnecessary feelings. Utopian thinking can ensnare us all at times. But when you get beyond that, you see a more tolerant purpose, even if it is a painful one. Growing up kids will sometimes learn the hard way, but so do adults and for everyone the consequences can be severe, and also dependent on the grace of others. There is a difference between seeking a more perfect union, and demanding one without first allowing for the process. It's a dilemma for those responsible for the desired outcome. Building cars was a lot easier for Henry Ford when they were all black. When life became colorful for the industry they didn't have enough of some colors, and they couldn't get rid of others. In seeking a more perfect union we accept the reality of pursuit...the time it takes to get there and the mistakes along the way. The Israelites wandered for 40 years. The fight for racial equality is certainly an arduous one. Managing emotions is complicated because we are ALL human, and imperfect. But there is equality in imperfection with the analyst who can't find blame, the analyst who thinks he can, the guy who was 'tempted' by a free 6 pack, and the cop who lost it in the first place. There is no debate over the consequence of failing to learn from all 4 mistakes. God warned us but he also left us with a way out. The beat goes on...one step at a time. I think John Lewis said it best...sometimes you need 'good' trouble. It's not about tolerating bad trouble...its about tolerating imperfection on the way to something better. Forgiveness is like that...a cleansing to enable learning. Using an example of race to make a case for equality misses the point. Martin Luther King made this very clear. What is 'just' God made clear. Just ask Jonah, or the money changers in the Temple, or Job, or Peter, or James.

    How timely Woodward's book is...and how appropriate to title it "RAGE". The consequences have certainly been identifiable, but it's the process, the election that is what is just...one person, one vote - equality on the way to a more perfect union. Let's just hope there isn't a consequence we don't want to experience.
Beautifully said.....


lilium6 74F
4498 posts
9/18/2020 12:18 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    I certainly didn't mean to personify the "horse'.. It represents both the person and the "vehicle" they are using.
Yes, I knew what you meant - the comment just tickled my sense of humour and I couldn't resist the tease.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/18/2020 4:50 pm

I noticed you referred to Black people as "blacks" twice, but never referred to White people as "whites"......interesting.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/19/2020 4:22 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I noticed you referred to Black people as "blacks" twice, but never referred to White people as "whites"......interesting.
why, do you do that.. I'm curious about your motivation.. so I
don't assume your just being an ass, You are consistent in trying to carve up what I write.. with some of outrageous accusation to a meaning that doesn't exist..
Yet always avoid the content in your replay.

Your replies are always about me. Why do you do that?

Please do not continue with it. I am staying away from you because of it.. do the same for me


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/19/2020 5:32 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    why, do you do that.. I'm curious about your motivation.. so I
    don't assume your just being an ass, You are consistent in trying to carve up what I write.. with some of outrageous accusation to a meaning that doesn't exist..
    Yet always avoid the content in your replay.

    Your replies are always about me. Why do you do that?

    Please do not continue with it. I am staying away from you because of it.. do the same for me
No, my comment doesn't avoid the content.....It's an aspect of the content, maybe even the very epitome of the content.......


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/20/2020 6:37 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    No, my comment doesn't avoid the content.....It's an aspect of the content, maybe even the very epitome of the content.......
I am against "labels".. I keep telling you i think in the subjective.. That allows to understand when the "subjective" is wrong. Labels are wrong ..Words can be subjectified.. but people can't be.
For me there is the "objective" of being a single human, and the subjective of humanity..there is NO in between.
People use labels to find an "in between" that doesn't exist.

You can't understand what i write because you can't understand that , that is where I'm coming from.. Everything I write.. I TRY to un-defined the GROUP and define the individual.
For most people the words i use are too conflicting to make sense. throw in the fact that most of time I don't write from the first person, but as the third person.. really makes it hard.
Sometimes i write from the first person point of view.. My own..Like i am doing now.

Black and white people is just the color of one's skins.. As a group it has no other meaning..
It has no meaning that is "bad.. and also it has no meaning that is "good"
The idea of where a group of people live... has no meaning to me as a group.
The idea of rich people and poor people...has no meaning to me as a group
The difference between Democrat and Republican has no meaning to me as a group.

How is it possible that people can't not understand , that is the basis of racism. but it's not just racism.. It's the basis of human behavior that causes racism.. Defining a group of people by where they live, how much money they have, what religion they are, what ideology they support..and defining one's self, through someone else's labeling is an automatic jumping stone to becoming RACIST.

You're white so your racist.. Your American so you're racist, you're American so you're great, You're American so your free, Your American so your "special"...... if YOU choose to define Yourself, by how others "label" America.. You Might as well.. hang up any chance of this country not being racist.

Each individual needs to stands on their own.

That's what the TITLE of this blog means.