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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
9/10/2020 2:31 am
Bob Woodard is a lot smarter than the rest of US


I don't know..how some of you took Bob Woodwards book and tapes and comments.

But I know how i did.. I was upset..he had tapes of Trump in February and March that said Trump was lying to US.. Why didn't he expose Trump Then? It could seem that makes him just as responsible.

I felt stupid, narrowminded and hypocritIca when I heard his answer..As I should know better.

The question is ..How do you know when a compulsive LIAR is telling the TRUTH?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/10/2020 2:59 am

There are three kinds of Trump people..
Those that oppose him.. that believe he is a compulsive LIAR.. But use what he says as a truth..to condemn him??? WTF?

Trump's supporter who believe what Trump says is the Truth.....The are beyond STUPID.. They are Cult followers

Then there are Trump supporters, that understand, It's not what Trump says .. It what he does. And because Trump is a deal maker the greatest that ever live.. It not even about what Trump does.. It about Trump's outcomes..It doesn't matter how he gets there.

From day one I said.. Don't Judge Trump by what he says... judge Trump by what he does...even then don't be certain about his intentions .. his intentions are always going to be define by his results.

When Trump makes two opposing statements..The truth is a matter of either ONE being a Lie. In February or March,, either Trump's private or public statements could have been a LIE. Only the results could tell the truth.
Bob Woodard.. understood that... you got to KNOW the TRUTH before you can expose the LIE. Bob Woodard to box Trump in, had to be certain he knew the Truth. Had to be certain of the outcome of the virus.. In February or March there was simply too much uncertainty.. There was a Trump out, if he exposed him then.
Bob Woodard is a genius. He caught Nixon and he caught Trump.


LeafReport 73M

9/10/2020 3:28 am

That question popped into my mind as well, but briefly and because of the same thing. How do you know. There were plenty of other people sounding the alarms and many others who were well aware of the lying and did nothing.

I will be buying the book next week. It's my patriotic duty to read it, just like I've read the indictments, the Mueller Report, watched the impeachment hearings and I'm now reading the Senate Intelligence Committee report.

Every hour that passes without another impeachment vote harms America...every single hour. The worst is yet to come...it will NOT be smooth sailing all the way to Nov or to late January. More Americans are going to die, hundreds of thousands more are going to die, and thousands are going to be homeless and hungry.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/10/2020 4:20 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    That question popped into my mind as well, but briefly and because of the same thing. How do you know. There were plenty of other people sounding the alarms and many others who were well aware of the lying and did nothing.

    I will be buying the book next week. It's my patriotic duty to read it, just like I've read the indictments, the Mueller Report, watched the impeachment hearings and I'm now reading the Senate Intelligence Committee report.

    Every hour that passes without another impeachment vote harms America...every single hour. The worst is yet to come...it will NOT be smooth sailing all the way to Nov or to late January. More Americans are going to die, hundreds of thousands more are going to die, and thousands are going to be homeless and hungry.
You're narrowminded if you think this is about the virus..

Follow Trump, understand Trump.. This has NEVER been about the virus.. This is about the elections.

What Trump does or says about the virus is small potatoes.You have to try and understand what Trump cares about? Not what he doesn't care about.

You hear it all the time, yet you ignore it.. you hear it from those who are in the know. Listen to Fauci, Scarmouhie, Bolton, Woodard, Mattis, Kelly and so many others that have worked for him.....

Everything he does, all he cares about is winning the election. He calculates everything on the basis of that.

it so encompasses his life .. you can't put anything past him. he will do ANYTHING to WIN

He thinks the Power of the Presidency gives him a leg up.. Like all the other Autocrats and Dictators. He will do what THEY do to secure wins....

We have left the realm of his mental capacities, capability, and and dereliction of being president.. It's no longer a judgment call. It doesn't matter what those those things are,,.. It doesn't matter what he did about the virus, It's doesn't matter all the people he let die, It doesn't matter he wants to build walls and cage children. it doesn't matter that he helps his friend and tries to destroy his opposition. It doesn't matter his greed and emoluments.. It doesn't matter who is supporters are or what they think..or how stupid they are.

It matters we don't allow him to steal the election
The man a long time ago sold his soul to the devil.. that's what matters.
What matters is we send him back to HELL.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/10/2020 4:42 am

leaf.. you never really understood me.. When I say ANYBODY but Trump.. I mean ANY American besides Trump would get my vote.. Any other racists, fascist, communist, Autocrat, narcissist, insane person.. I would vote for.
Pence would be a saint compared to Trump.

No American i can think of.... has the capability of evil that Trump has.

Again.. It's in the HOW.. not in the what.

In not in what he did about the virus.. It's in the HOW he did it.


LeafReport 73M

9/10/2020 4:42 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    You're narrowminded if you think this is about the virus..

    Follow Trump, understand Trump.. This has NEVER been about the virus.. This is about the elections.

    What Trump does or says about the virus is small potatoes.You have to try and understand what Trump cares about? Not what he doesn't care about.

    You hear it all the time, yet you ignore it.. you hear it from those who are in the know. Listen to Fauci, Scarmouhie, Bolton, Woodard, Mattis, Kelly and so many others that have worked for him.....

    Everything he does, all he cares about is winning the election. He calculates everything on the basis of that.

    it so encompasses his life .. you can't put anything past him. he will do ANYTHING to WIN

    He thinks the Power of the Presidency gives him a leg up.. Like all the other Autocrats and Dictators. He will do what THEY do to secure wins....

    We have left the realm of his mental capacities, capability, and and dereliction of being president.. It's no longer a judgment call. It doesn't matter what those those things are,,.. It doesn't matter what he did about the virus, It's doesn't matter all the people he let die, It doesn't matter he wants to build walls and cage children. it doesn't matter that he helps his friend and tries to destroy his opposition. It doesn't matter his greed and emoluments.. It doesn't matter who is supporters are or what they think..or how stupid they are.

    It matters we don't allow him to steal the election
    The man a long time ago sold his soul to the devil.. that's what matters.
    What matters is we send him back to HELL.
Oh no Cricket...it's clearly about the elections but its way deeper than that. The fuse has been lit...the Post Office started the fire...I'm talking about chaos, deaths, the potential for international conflict (e.g. Chinese jets penetrated Taiwan air space this week), is growing, stock market volatility, homelessness in the middle of winter, fires out west, probable hurricane on the east coast and citizens that just have made up their minds they aren't going to accept the results of this election. It's going to be messy....that fuse is burning already. Who knows when we get to Kaboom.


LeafReport 73M

9/10/2020 4:49 am

The inability of congress to do what it takes to save this economy will bring absolute disaster soon. If cooler heads don't prevail soon we will have a huge mess. It will take at least a decade to right this ship.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/10/2020 4:58 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    Oh no Cricket...it's clearly about the elections but its way deeper than that. The fuse has been lit...the Post Office started the fire...I'm talking about chaos, deaths, the potential for international conflict (e.g. Chinese jets penetrated Taiwan air space this week), is growing, stock market volatility, homelessness in the middle of winter, fires out west, probable hurricane on the east coast and citizens that just have made up their minds they aren't going to accept the results of this election. It's going to be messy....that fuse is burning already. Who knows when we get to Kaboom.
yes .. thank you..I misunderstood.

my fear, however is not so much external as it is internal..

The external fears are not really external.. The Chinese or Russian, or Iranian, or North Korean..or any other country..
May enter a conflict.. but wont cause it.
Internally, the economy, jobs , rights, the stock market.. It's not in their volatility I worry about. They easy could become volatile.. but they won't cause it.

Like i said don't put anything past Trump.
His submarines could attack other counties and our economy, and our Democracy all at the same time. He could do anything.
Rig the election, declare the election invalid... even declare himself the WINNER without all the votes being counted.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/11/2020 12:32 pm

The isolationist tendencies of the USA....and the extreme nationalism is also a large factor in the way US citizens have responded to Covid..

So the US president wasn't honest about the degree of virulence.......Everyone in the USA has access to the media.....to international media.......Why do so many American rely on the words of one person in their information gathering about an International pandemic?........

For all the years I have been on this site I've been constantly criticized by Americans telling me that having an interest in the whole world is some kind of derangement.....They tell me that they have no interest in anything that happens beyond the borders of the USA.....that it doesn't affect them in any way......

The way this news of the US president lying about the severity of Covid has blown up in the American Media highlights the extreme isolation and nationalism.