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jiminycricket1 74M
5508 posts
9/9/2020 4:30 am
American Illogic?


A response ..
...When is smartening up.. really just "dumbing down".... There is no place quite like America. for smartening up and dumbing down all at the same time.

.Our existence through all it's ups and down,. has worked for 10,000 years The evolution of man..Natures challenges, and things like survival of the fittest..The incorporation of the positive mutations and the elimination of the negatives ones..

We have called it by many different names besides evolution.....We have called it Nature or God, We have called it the Tree of life...
WE needed to explain our inability to control it..and accept it.. But in the last hundred years that has changed..All In slow motion, like the 10,000 years that preceded it.

We began by "smartening up"' to believe WE could better control it.

The advancements of humans and humanity.. was always the combination of positive and negative...It's trials and errors to advancement.. We believed we could take the POSITIVE and eliminate the negative. WE refused to allow "nature" to take it's course.
WE forget that ...Death define life, poor defines rich, evil defines good. It doesn't work the other way around. Life doesn't define death..evil doesn't define good.. and rich doesn't define poor...It is nature that defines those things.. ultimately changing it, evolve it, or eliminating it i. We are still incapable of doing it ourselves.

Everybody is entitled to their RIGHTS..and their Right entitles them to accountability. Not to the rest of US... but to Nature..It's a matter of evolution.

In the last 100 years, lead by America.. No matter what you call it,..
We have been "f*cking" with evolution, Mother nature, or God..
We have protected the survival of the "unfit". We have messed around in our own backyard laboratory, We have destroyed evolution plans, and in the process will destroy our Planet, and ourselves. WE are destroying Mother Nature by not allowing HER to fulfill her duties and take her course.

You think the solution is to fight it..NO!.. that's the problem
The solution is to let Mother Nature take her course. It can all be straighten out if you just let it happen
Let those who Live by the Lie.. Die by the Lie. Then in the next 100 years those particular LIES will be gone.

When "big" here (like he just did) or others HERE speak.. when Trump takes the podium.. For me it's clear as day.. WE call it Lies.. We call it stupid.. We fight it, like it means something.. But 10,000 years has define it, as what it truly is... UNSUSTAINABLE.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/9/2020 5:10 am

it's important that you understand, that i believe.. God, mother nature and evolution are the same thing.. the words for me are interchangeable.

That being said.. you can replace one for the other, they go hand in hand no matter if you separate them.. they do the same thing.

Now.. It may seem like I'm telling You.. should just let it all happen.. Well that will work, but will be really Harsh.. you do what you can do, when you can do it.
The idea that doing is a not matter of changing the final result as opposed to mitigating the negative.
Trying to eliminate or change the final result....Is where we go wrong.

We do What we can do...When we can do it.

Let's take Climate Change.
People act like they can Change it.. Can't be done..
It's happening and it going to continue to happen

Our failure.. is our sins are already committed in regards to Climate Change.

With God.. do what you can do. to seek redemption and forgiveness. to show compassion and Love Deal with climate change as a Human condition and a Human sin
With Mother Nature seek to appease her. lessen the burden.. mitigate the damage
With evolution....Don't do anything.. Evolution is the HARSH reality.. Survival may be guaranteed through evolution adaptability....but the penalty will be the most severe. Evolution will take in toll in human cleansing

I believe in it ALL

WE got a preview of what I'm talking about,,,
The Corona Virus...
With God, it's about faith, forgiveness and redemption, compassion and Love
For Mother Nature.... It's mitigation
For evolution.. do nothing.. it just new adaptability factor and a human cleansing

But for me.. There is no difference.. Do what you can do.. when you can do it.. and no matter what that is.. The rest will take care itself.


TxJW_76 81M

9/9/2020 5:36 am

Non of it matters but the earth.
Man thinks he is all important but -------actually meaningless.-------
earth goes on in one form or another--------if it were to vanish-------man would not be on it to discuss the situation.


LeafReport 73M

9/9/2020 9:11 am

I'd hate to see the world if it were not Nixon and the EPA


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/9/2020 11:37 am

Humans have existed for at least 200,000 years and lived in North America for about 50,000 according to the latest findings........What is the number 10,000 referring to?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/9/2020 12:01 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Humans have existed for at least 200,000 years and lived in North America for about 50,000 according to the latest findings........What is the number 10,000 referring to?
10,000 years of a social existence?..man can assume to exist on this planet since the first life form 3.7 billion years ago.. and man will only become extinct when the last form exists??? You correcting me about evolution?
No no matter what I say you need to use a measuring schtick? WTF is that?.. 10,000 years... whether it be wrong or right, or how you define it.. it's a long time


TxJW_76 81M

9/9/2020 12:05 pm

Growing up I often went to a relatives ranch------where one creek with a waterfall ran into another.-------- there was a rise in the land with a large flat rock containing a rounded indention. A few oval stones were nearby ----obviously used by indians in the 1800s to grind corn etc.

I sat there on that rock many times wondering what their thoughts were about their daily life. What was their biggest priority for each day? Were they happy?

Then----- as NOW I realized ALL things are passing----- except the earth where I was sitting.

The Indians were gone THEN when I sat on the rock they had toiled over.

My relatives who thought the land was theirs because of a piece of paper are gone NOW.

The Indians thought the land is sacred & belongs to no one-----they were right. They come from the land-----they return to it. They are part of it.

Jiminy You are right-----time will take care of everything.
In addition to that what really matters ((earth) will still be here. All the crap as we know it today will be something to be forgotten.

NOW with all that being said it would be much more pleasant if that lying SOB fell off the planet out there somewhere & got lost without his tweeter.
Party On!


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/9/2020 12:54 pm

    Quoting TxJW_76:
    Growing up I often went to a relatives ranch------where one creek with a waterfall ran into another.-------- there was a rise in the land with a large flat rock containing a rounded indention. A few oval stones were nearby ----obviously used by indians in the 1800s to grind corn etc.

    I sat there on that rock many times wondering what their thoughts were about their daily life. What was their biggest priority for each day? Were they happy?

    Then----- as NOW I realized ALL things are passing----- except the earth where I was sitting.

    The Indians were gone THEN when I sat on the rock they had toiled over.

    My relatives who thought the land was theirs because of a piece of paper are gone NOW.

    The Indians thought the land is sacred & belongs to no one-----they were right. They come from the land-----they return to it. They are part of it.

    Jiminy You are right-----time will take care of everything.
    In addition to that what really matters ((earth) will still be here. All the crap as we know it today will be something to be forgotten.

    NOW with all that being said it would be much more pleasant if that lying SOB fell off the planet out there somewhere & got lost without his tweeter.
    Party On!
Thank you for understanding..
Before man got "God like" it was simple....Survive the best you can. Family, and community......Do what you can..

We evolved to the most horrendous decision making man can have.. "God like" decisions.
Our own impact.. That's not about destroying a single life, or a single community, or even the creek and waterfall you speak of..
But we are confronted with the ability and decision making to destroy our own lives, the entire human community, and an entire planet. We weren't built to have that POWER. People can't handle it...People fear it...from a rational standpoint.. It makes people irrational

People begin to judge if Dictatorships, Liberalism, or Fascism, or Nationalism, or Trumpism...could destroy it all..
but the truer difference between the times.. is there is now no place to run, no place to hide. no place you can be safe, no where you can protect yourself.... it make people crazy.. IN itself it forces people to FIGHT, there is no place to FLEE


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/9/2020 1:00 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    I'd hate to see the world if it were not Nixon and the EPA
Well, let me try to explain M<Y OPINION.. man's impact doesn't change the course.. it's just diversions and roadblocks. You can define your truth and Lies..But there is only one Proof that defines it..So let me add TRUTH to God, mother nature, and Evolution. truth is not an opinion... it's not even a best guess..... Truth is the outcome..the outcome can only be the truth

For example.. If Hilter won the war.. It would be a roadblock.. but yet, just a matter of more time to overcome..The people who live in that moment are effected negatively.. but God, Mother nature, and evolution or whatever you want call it...would eventually correct the course. Hilter's world is not sustainable as is Trump's.

Nothing in our history has been sustainable but THE TRUTH.....200 years from now is going to look pretty much the same.. no matter what we do today.
What we do WRONG.. will eventually self correct.. and what we do RIGHT will be incorporated.

So as far as OUR Future, the Truth will win out..... Trump, Putin, China, and YOU can shove your OPINIONS. The Truth is not in the ingredients.. "the proof is in the pudding"


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/9/2020 3:30 pm

"it's important that you understand, that i believe.. God, mother nature and evolution are the same thing.. the words for me are interchangeable.".....

If that were true, then there is no distinction between the "objective" and the "subjective" or the "what" and the "how"......distinctions you have spent years obsessing about........

That's even more ridiculous than saying that 10,000 years and 200,000 years are interchangeable time segments.....


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/9/2020 8:49 pm

There are Paleolithic cave paintings.....not crude, but beautiful art depicting animals in action.....There are goddess figurines, flutes and crystal pendants with drilled holes that are 40,000 years old.....Werner Herzog made a film about the Chauvet cave in France that has life-like paintings of
animals that are now extinct, like cave bears and woolly mammoth.....there are many hand prints in that cave and the size of the hands and the height of the prints indicate that the artists were over 6 ft. tall........When it was discovered in the 90's, it hadn't been opened for 38,000 years or so.......


LeafReport 73M

9/10/2020 1:40 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    "it's important that you understand, that i believe.. God, mother nature and evolution are the same thing.. the words for me are interchangeable.".....

    If that were true, then there is no distinction between the "objective" and the "subjective" or the "what" and the "how"......distinctions you have spent years obsessing about........

    That's even more ridiculous than saying that 10,000 years and 200,000 years are interchangeable time segments.....

Your point of the interchangeable words pinpoint exactly the way I see God.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/10/2020 2:02 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    "it's important that you understand, that i believe.. God, mother nature and evolution are the same thing.. the words for me are interchangeable.".....

    If that were true, then there is no distinction between the "objective" and the "subjective" or the "what" and the "how"......distinctions you have spent years obsessing about........

    That's even more ridiculous than saying that 10,000 years and 200,000 years are interchangeable time segments.....

There a difference between not understanding what i write and being stupid

and a while back you crossed over to stupid.

I could explain it.. but you just joined a "big" club.. And there is no point in my explaining.
So let me say.. what you wrote here is a made up fantasy land. When Given as a reply to one of MY COMMENTS.. It's not just a LIE.. It's a "dumb ass" Lie.

it's ironic that I can forgive someone like "big" disagreement. he has policy, agenda, political, and defensive purposes..I may not fully understand him, but i understand his reasons
Yet , I can no longer forgive YOU. Our agreement.makes your comments so much "uglier" in their purpose.
I would spend time trying to get big to overcome his ignorance.. But YOU can go to hell.


lilium6 74F
4498 posts
9/10/2020 3:52 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    it's important that you understand, that i believe.. God, mother nature and evolution are the same thing.. the words for me are interchangeable.

    That being said.. you can replace one for the other, they go hand in hand no matter if you separate them.. they do the same thing.

    Now.. It may seem like I'm telling You.. should just let it all happen.. Well that will work, but will be really Harsh.. you do what you can do, when you can do it.
    The idea that doing is a not matter of changing the final result as opposed to mitigating the negative.
    Trying to eliminate or change the final result....Is where we go wrong.

    We do What we can do...When we can do it.

    Let's take Climate Change.
    People act like they can Change it.. Can't be done..
    It's happening and it going to continue to happen

    Our failure.. is our sins are already committed in regards to Climate Change.

    With God.. do what you can do. to seek redemption and forgiveness. to show compassion and Love Deal with climate change as a Human condition and a Human sin
    With Mother Nature seek to appease her. lessen the burden.. mitigate the damage
    With evolution....Don't do anything.. Evolution is the HARSH reality.. Survival may be guaranteed through evolution adaptability....but the penalty will be the most severe. Evolution will take in toll in human cleansing

    I believe in it ALL

    WE got a preview of what I'm talking about,,,
    The Corona Virus...
    With God, it's about faith, forgiveness and redemption, compassion and Love
    For Mother Nature.... It's mitigation
    For evolution.. do nothing.. it just new adaptability factor and a human cleansing

    But for me.. There is no difference.. Do what you can do.. when you can do it.. and no matter what that is.. The rest will take care itself.
I tend to think along similar lines


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/10/2020 8:14 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    There a difference between not understanding what i write and being stupid

    and a while back you crossed over to stupid.

    I could explain it.. but you just joined a "big" club.. And there is no point in my explaining.
    So let me say.. what you wrote here is a made up fantasy land. When Given as a reply to one of MY COMMENTS.. It's not just a LIE.. It's a "dumb ass" Lie.

    it's ironic that I can forgive someone like "big" disagreement. he has policy, agenda, political, and defensive purposes..I may not fully understand him, but i understand his reasons
    Yet , I can no longer forgive YOU. Our agreement.makes your comments so much "uglier" in their purpose.
    I would spend time trying to get big to overcome his ignorance.. But YOU can go to hell.
We have an "agreement"? Why don't I know about it?......I guess I'm just too darn stupid to have noticed.......


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/10/2020 9:27 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    We have an "agreement"? Why don't I know about it?......I guess I'm just too darn stupid to have noticed.......
The agreement is in politics... I agree with you about .. Trump, about immigration, I agree with you disagreements with big and others on the Right here. I agree with you about religion.. I even agree with you that God doesn't exist objectively.

And you are too damn stupid to have noticed.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/10/2020 3:44 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    The agreement is in politics... I agree with you about .. Trump, about immigration, I agree with you disagreements with big and others on the Right here. I agree with you about religion.. I even agree with you that God doesn't exist objectively.

    And you are too damn stupid to have noticed.
Or, conversely, it is your stupidity that causes you to assume that because you agree with me, there exists a state of "agreement".....


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/10/2020 4:23 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Or, conversely, it is your stupidity that causes you to assume that because you agree with me, there exists a state of "agreement".....
you can't read. Your reading comprehension is so fricken narrowminded.
Obvious we do not have "agreement" .. but that doesn't have anything to do with politics. It's now fricken personal. With each post I continue to find you personally offensive..
Now I don't fight will people like you.. I avoid people like you. So stay away from me.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/10/2020 7:14 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    you can't read. Your reading comprehension is so fricken narrowminded.
    Obvious we do not have "agreement" .. but that doesn't have anything to do with politics. It's now fricken personal. With each post I continue to find you personally offensive..
    Now I don't fight will people like you.. I avoid people like you. So stay away from me.
You're frickin hilarious....You're the one who brings me up.....You drop my name and lie about me in some rando blog, or, in this case you named your blog based on the name of a blog I had posted.........If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't have even read this blog.....stay in your own lane if you don't want to encounter me.....you have serious traffic issues.......