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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
9/1/2020 8:17 am
Are we a RACIST Country?


Well there is shitload more it than that. Things don't stand alone like that.
You can't be a racists.. without being a xenophobe, a misogynist, a homophobe, biased, and irrationally negative. It all ties together...

Trump lies are OBVIOUS.. A lie should not be colored by a political party or a Person skin color.

But the FACT remains it is....

It's pretty much a wash, according to statistics between political Parties.. 90% will vote for their candidate.
In racial background of party affiliation.. 89% of the registered Republicans are white.
70% of Independents are White, and 60% of Democrats are white. The percentage of registered independents has grown significantly to about 30% .. both Liberal and Republicans have historically been about equal at 35% each.

Given party affiliation numbers.. Republicans hold 35% of the white vote, independents hold 30% of the white vote and Democrats hold 20% of the white vote....So of ALL white voters in the entire election. 30% of the entire white electorate is Republican, 25% Independent, and 20% Democrat.

Here's the disappointing FACT....In the 20 election...63% of the White vote was for Trump and 37% of the white vote for Hillary. Trump won by managing where that white vote came from.

The truly amazing thing heard on the news.. Was Biden can win the election .. if he can get 40% of the White vote? That is astounding!

You may not understand it.. But Trump does.

Trump understands the racial biases.. In 20, Trump allowed the racial bias of White people be displayed... with a parade of black people Hillary put in front of them.. His focus in 20 was the bias against women. Hillary was his purpose and white men his target..

Trump in 2020 no longer has Hillary around.. His purpose is now People of color, protesters, lawlessness... with the target of white people's racial and ethnic bias.
The Facts prove him out.. there is no doubt the effect of racial and gender bias in the 20 election in regards the white voter. Especially the White voter.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/1/2020 8:17 am

Truth and lies.. there is a certain propensity to believe a truth could be a lie and a lie could be a truth. But it's almost impossible to believe....That the truth IS a lie, and a Lie IS the truth.
We have crossed over into the TWILIGHT ZONE
So how is it possible?....Alternative FACTS, Fake news, Conspiracies and biases so ingrained as to be irrational.
These are the tools of WHITE PEOPLE and Trump supporters To make a Truth a lie and a lie the Truth.. It's not a propensity, it's not questioning, it's not compromising, It's a FACT.
It's the fact ....Justified, nurtured, and supported, by Trump's manipulation, and exacerbation of White people's irrational negatives biases.

So all one needs to do is ask yourself.. how is it.. That Biden only needs 40% of the White vote to win.
Tell me policy matters. Tell me we are not fighting for the "soul' of America?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/1/2020 8:57 am

Now.. what i said that many Democrats can understand ...But I have a problem with at this time.
I have been trying to explain it.. not very well, but trying..

"Tell me we are not fighting for the "soul' of America?" these are Democrat words not mine..

As long as this is a fight..their can be no winner....

I fight Trump because.. I have to.. there is no other choice for me.. I have to because i have to start there......

Fighting for the soul of America.. WTF?. do you think that means.
Who wins and who loses.. Sorry folks it doesn't work that way.

We are fighting to unite the soul of America. we are fighting to create a new soul for America.. there can be No victor and No vanquished

One people, One nation..One soul..


TxJW_76 81M

9/1/2020 10:11 am

The U.S. has been a racist country since day 1.
It is a no brainer
Party On!


LeafReport 73M

9/1/2020 11:18 am

People will disagree but I say no we are not a racist nation.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/1/2020 12:12 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    People will disagree but I say no we are not a racist nation.
yes.. this is not and either/or question.. I agree with TX and you..

Thank You...you both got my point..

Your decision about whether or not America is racist.. Is based on your definition of what is racism?

There is not a single country on this planet.. with a significant racial division..That racism doesn't exist. WE get the double barrel of racism.. We are a country in which Our particular brand of equality, justice, and democracy only serves to exascerbate our racism and not solve it.. In the normal sense we are certainly no worse than other countries...But we are not normal.. "ALL men are created equal". When we are not equal.. racism in America become more pronounced..
When "equal' becomes a power struggle. All men are CREATED equal...Does not mean that all outcomes need to be equal..that is an impossibility.

The point of my blog.. is the growing idea that everything is labeled in terms of race.. And the power struggle of who controls What.
OF course it's NOT TRUE...It's a perception.. The perception that Democrats are the Black Party and Republicans are the White party. makes racism more pronounced

That SOB in the White HOUSE is trying to define it that way.
Taking an undercurrent and turning it into a rip tide.
Trump "base" is WHITE.. Democrats base is Black as there is no doubt a Democrat victory is a victory for "Black Lives Matter"
Of course..It's NOT TRUE and Shouldn't be True.. unless you want to perceive it that way.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/1/2020 12:43 pm

Are we racist?.. well, there are some in this country, that there is no doubt.. I happen to deny the fact they are White means anything. Their idea of our systematic racism doesn't involve police brutality and an unjust justice system.. They are grown from other places and other countries.. In which genocide is the ultimate solution.

For the last 170 years.. White supremacy has existed in America. Blacks in a representative government are only 15% of the population. For 170 years Black have been under the gun.. For the last 170 years there has been virtually No legislation that has the stated purpose of Putting black in their "place".. It's been a long haul but the direction it has taken has been clear, although the goal not reached. A systematic government racist goal in this country..has never been achieved..

We see history as a matter of fact....But history is not a matter of fact... history is a matter of Choices. America has for 170 years made the right choices about racism.. In that regards we are certainly NOT a racist country.
Yet the crossroad of goals has been arrived at......
A Trump election was and is... a cry from white America to say stop it. We will no longer do it. we have gone far enough
The choice in this election is clear........a victory for white nationalist racism .(racism against blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Indigenous, Gays, Allies, Women, and Liberals.. It's all really just the same thing)....or to continue a victory for America.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/1/2020 1:23 pm

I read today tha 52 black businessmen are suing McDonalds for a billion dollar for racism.
They contended unfair practices of not giving black investors the same opportunity of white investors to invest is White neighborhood.. The consequence of that were black owner of a McDonalds franchises were at an unfair disadvantage.. by being steered to invest in black neighborhoods..
It resulted in higher security cost.. higher insurance costs and lower revenue. That white investor didn't have?
Equal doesn't mean equal outcomes.
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What Do you think?... or do you think at all?..the absurdity of this suit is beyond my imagination.. It use to be a given, that owning a Mcdonald's franchise was an automatic money maker.. But nothing in this country is automatic...As racist as this may sound...... those "investors" should have known their own race better and invested in Popeye's Chicken.

So these Black businessmen are suing that they weren't given the same opportunity to MAKE money off of White people as White people are.
Black people should be ashamed of them... They are holding up the slogan....
WHITE PEOPLE MATTER.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/1/2020 6:28 pm

    Quoting  :

Lots of racism in Canada too....


LeafReport 73M

9/1/2020 7:49 pm

Racism exists in America but America is not a racist nation. It's a lot better than it once was but Trump has really set us back. Weeks of demonstrations made it very clear to the world we are fed up with Trump dividing the country.


LeafReport 73M

9/1/2020 7:51 pm

This has never ever been a policy election. The next one might be.


LeafReport 73M

9/2/2020 2:25 am

The evidence is overwhelming that America is not a racist nation. There is no apartheid here. I would argue that is exactly what you have in Israel frankly. We fought that war already, and the later skirmish in the civil rights movement of the 60's. That's not to say we don't have race problems in America, we do. But we have laws now. Try posting something racist on Facebook and see if you have a job in the morning. Racism in the workplace is a dangerous game people don't play, unless they are stupid and want to get fired. I would fire someone over a racist statement in a New York minute, or some threat to a customer or an employee. But our military leadership isn't racist, professional sports is clearly not, the arts offers us wonderful exposure to talent and diversity and political leadership and the courts are diverse too. Just recently, those massive demonstrations from coast to coast, for weeks, trumpeted to the world that America is not racist, and Americans are fed up with those who are. In my view America wants an immediate end to the problems that remain. All that can happen...but it would be a lot easier were it not for the way racists got away with stacking the deck...gerrymandering, voter suppression etc. America is just not a racist country, but she has failed to completely marginalize the trouble makers.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/2/2020 3:37 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    The evidence is overwhelming that America is not a racist nation. There is no apartheid here. I would argue that is exactly what you have in Israel frankly. We fought that war already, and the later skirmish in the civil rights movement of the 60's. That's not to say we don't have race problems in America, we do. But we have laws now. Try posting something racist on Facebook and see if you have a job in the morning. Racism in the workplace is a dangerous game people don't play, unless they are stupid and want to get fired. I would fire someone over a racist statement in a New York minute, or some threat to a customer or an employee. But our military leadership isn't racist, professional sports is clearly not, the arts offers us wonderful exposure to talent and diversity and political leadership and the courts are diverse too. Just recently, those massive demonstrations from coast to coast, for weeks, trumpeted to the world that America is not racist, and Americans are fed up with those who are. In my view America wants an immediate end to the problems that remain. All that can happen...but it would be a lot easier were it not for the way racists got away with stacking the deck...gerrymandering, voter suppression etc. America is just not a racist country, but she has failed to completely marginalize the trouble makers.
Yes.. exactly..

Two things ....first the evidence is that there are far more "closet" racists than I imagined. and it becomes very difficult to marginalize them. There is a huge difference between the racist oppressor and the racist who lives in "fear"
Second.. Trump has "hung up" his "emperor's new clothes".. To do so...... he's "opened the closet" door.

My blog used percentages to try and say something..Trump voters did so for different reasons.. Republican for Republicans who see Democrats as enemy Liberals.. religious grounds, economic grounds, and a cultural one.
It regards to 'policy grounds" each policy is weighed separately against the backdrop of the other issues.From day one.. even with all Trump rhetoric.. I could tell he has NO POLICY.

The percentages of the Whites vote is clear.. 63% to 37% is an impossiblity without a single deciding factor....
As we have tried to marginalize racists.
White voting 'closet" racists" marginalized US by electing Trump.
It is clear that the Obama backlash was entirely racist.
Trump came in the election and created the "perfect storm"
for Trump the "perfect storm" doesn't exist anymore..he is searching to create one. He has become a cornered "cat".. And he will do ANYTHING to get out of it.
So expect the unexpected....


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
9/2/2020 7:17 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    The evidence is overwhelming that America is not a racist nation. There is no apartheid here. I would argue that is exactly what you have in Israel frankly. We fought that war already, and the later skirmish in the civil rights movement of the 60's. That's not to say we don't have race problems in America, we do. But we have laws now. Try posting something racist on Facebook and see if you have a job in the morning. Racism in the workplace is a dangerous game people don't play, unless they are stupid and want to get fired. I would fire someone over a racist statement in a New York minute, or some threat to a customer or an employee. But our military leadership isn't racist, professional sports is clearly not, the arts offers us wonderful exposure to talent and diversity and political leadership and the courts are diverse too. Just recently, those massive demonstrations from coast to coast, for weeks, trumpeted to the world that America is not racist, and Americans are fed up with those who are. In my view America wants an immediate end to the problems that remain. All that can happen...but it would be a lot easier were it not for the way racists got away with stacking the deck...gerrymandering, voter suppression etc. America is just not a racist country, but she has failed to completely marginalize the trouble makers.
You make me laugh.......The USA is a racist nation where political correctness is a big hairy deal.....don't say the N-word we can all pretend that racism doesn't exist....... What do you think all these protests are about?.....It's about African Americans trying to tell you that systemic racism is a deep, roaring river that runs through the culture.........


LeafReport 73M

9/3/2020 2:11 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    You make me laugh.......The USA is a racist nation where political correctness is a big hairy deal.....don't say the N-word we can all pretend that racism doesn't exist....... What do you think all these protests are about?.....It's about African Americans trying to tell you that systemic racism is a deep, roaring river that runs through the culture.........

The protests are about stamping out what remains of the trouble makers. That probably means the natural deaths of our generation and then those left behind with the disease will suffocate themselves. That doesn't mean someone can't reignite hate, Trump for example. But America is not a racist nation. We just know how to make a lot of noise in the process.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/3/2020 2:19 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    You make me laugh.......The USA is a racist nation where political correctness is a big hairy deal.....don't say the N-word we can all pretend that racism doesn't exist....... What do you think all these protests are about?.....It's about African Americans trying to tell you that systemic racism is a deep, roaring river that runs through the culture.........

"A deep roaring river"... In an ever changing scenery.. The rivers 'shallows' through "rapids", cascades over waterfalls.. and returns to the clear pools..then repeats itself.. until it finds the "ocean of racism".. There is so much more to it.. than just a river.
A slow changing history.. that both "cuts" to the chase..and "deepens"
But no matter what you call it.. It all becomes a matter of "gravity".

A River is a River.. no matter where it flows. It's all made from the same stuff.
It's roaring and deepening. Defines not the river, nor the place.... but the "erosion" of one's society.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
9/3/2020 2:50 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    The protests are about stamping out what remains of the trouble makers. That probably means the natural deaths of our generation and then those left behind with the disease will suffocate themselves. That doesn't mean someone can't reignite hate, Trump for example. But America is not a racist nation. We just know how to make a lot of noise in the process.
Thank You.. It's not so much that I completely agree with your "What".. the what really doesn't matter to me.. Maybe I am now wrong in chastising you about your HOW?
Because for me... making sense.. isn't as important as being sensible.

How we read stuff is pretty important to understanding.. I admit I may have been wrong in How I read your stuff. or maybe your understanding has changed How you write this stuff.. It doesn't matter which is..
Because, I recognize, you have changed me.. In How I read you. This not a one time deal.. A switch didn't enlighten me.. It's been happening over the last couple of days.

I wonder if sparkle, understands what I wrote to her. It's a great example. Not in her capability of understanding my WHAT it is. It's not in the WHAT she reads.. It's in the How she reads me.