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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
8/21/2020 5:57 am
Slavery, Racism, Social Injustice and America


I know you can't see it they way i do.....I certainly am not defending slavery not racial injustice..but In America, we are reflected by different times and different social mores.

Social mores are nothing but customs that have been so deep-rooted in any society, that they dictate what is good and bad.

In 1820,a new country was subject to outside takeover...The surety of self preservation had much more to do with economics than morals. It was a world necessities that the richer you were the less likely to be subjugated. It was reflected in the social mores of the time. Slavery was viewed as an economic necessities.. Throughout history, from the Pharoahs to America.. Empires were built on slavery.
It's a truism when Black believe this country was built on their backs. because it was. but as bad as slavery was.. there was rational behind it of survival.
From 1820 to 1920.. the struggle came between economics and morality. Social mores were changing. Although there was blip in radar called the Civil War..the Civil War was a transition point between the Economic argument and the moral argument. It didn't defeat the economic argument it just signified the moral argument was ahead..
The economic argument changed from slavery to social injustice. Blacks may not have been slaves, but the were indentured servants. Kept beneath us.. to do the work of slaves. And again this country was being built on the backs of Blacks and others..

Once that was done in 1920 the economic argument gained some ground.as defined in the social mores of the roaring twenties. Before 1820 the social mores condoned slavery. To 1960 the social more condoned economic freedom... It was this idea of economic freedom in which racism became systematic..

From 1960 til today the argument has changed.. the moral argument totally dominates the economic one. In fact the economic one, holds no ground any more.. Those the choose the economic argument have had a hard time transitioning.. and maintaining the systematic racism of past social mores... They had to battle morals with morals. So they changed what morals are..Morals became worthiness and worthiness become morals
black people could not be moral because they were unworthy. They had a hard defending that.. without expanding it to all people.. All unworthy people are not moral. unworthy defined by race, creed, religion, sexual orientation, and the poor. Black never left the forefront, because that's were they have always been.. but the have been joined by millions of others
We are now.. not confront by systemic racism as the the total picture. but social injustices of all types....have become systematic.
For those people, who believe in systematic injustice.. It's now not economic.. but simply .. If someone is different they are unworthy.
My fear and irony..Is that I believe what goes around ..comes around.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/21/2020 6:25 am

That was all well and good.. but what do I think it means.. and what impact does it have today.

let's get crazy!
In 1820 a struggling new country.. was trying to find it way. It was fraught with bad decisions and trial an errors. but even so....It was true to the social mores of the time.

For two hundred years the struggle has continued.
the trial and errors..the mistakes..the morality. Until it reach a breaking point.
And it became a factor of changing the social mores instead of struggling to find what s right.

in 1820 with all it's bad... we were better off following the social mores of the time.than we are today.

Where social mores..

"Social mores are nothing but customs that have been so deep-rooted in any society, that they dictate what is good and bad"

Are nothing more than "fake news".

The idea of social mores is not absolute.. it is the predominance in a culture. that defines what is good and what is bad.
It may be important to someone, like leaf.. WHAT that good and bad is..
but no matter what it is.. What it is... is better than it's absence.
How do i know that?
Well in the absence of social mores.. there is CHAOS.
And in our history there has never been a more chaotic time.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/21/2020 7:58 am

i m little different than most.. most people want the social mores to be good and righteous, compassionate and loving. I agree.. but at this stage. with Donald Trump.. I settle for the existence of social mores.. no matter what they are. I need to have something I can deal with.. Not something that doesn't exist. The thing is... that social mores aren't created they are just allowed to happen. Trump will not allow it.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/21/2020 8:03 am

i m little different than most.. most people want the social mores to be good and righteous, compassionate and loving. I agree.. but at this stage. with Donald Trump.. I settle for the existence of social mores.. no matter what they are. I need to have something I can deal with.. Not something that doesn't exist. The thing is... that social mores aren't created they are just allowed to happen. Trump will not allow it.
Am i fearful that Trump could succeed.. NO NEVER.. he can not stop the tide, nor the sun from shining. It will exist again and because of Trump it will be more righteous, and good, compassionate and loving..That the way it works.