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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
8/14/2020 5:51 am
Trump supporters and Commonality


I keep reminding You i talk about the how, not the WHAT.
The how of the commonality of Trump supporters.

First thing is that Trump supporters say they are different. but in reality they are afraid that people oppose them are exactly like them

Trump supporters don't even think about the What ...they think of the commonality about their How.

Trump supporters believe that the Democrat Party is the home of minorities, illegals, socialist and communists. That supporting the Democrat party is 2 support the takeover of this country..By those people are NOT really Americans.
Their action is based on THE FACT....of America's Changing Demographics...
's based on the fear that "THOSE PEOPLE" are winning.
's based on the fear that Democrats Will marginalize them... just like they marginalize others.

The commonality of trump supporters is FEAR.. A fear that runs so deep they are willing give up the Rule of law, the Constitution, and institutions.. NOT see it happen.

Trump is their SAVIOR...Trump will prevent a minority takeover., even when they become the majority. It's the ONLY way they feel it can be done.. no other Republican can do it.

In the final analysis. It is the ONLY commonality of the complete Trump supporter. If someone doesn't disagree with Trump about certain things...Like his attack on our democracy. It is simply because.. they now fear our Democracy

Tell your self different. it doesn't matter, lie 2 me , lie 2 yourself. But you can't escape it. You believe Blacks, Hispanics, women, gays, illegals, foreigners, immigrants, Allies and enemies ......ARE just like you.. THEY WILL DO 2 YOU..... WHAT YOU DO 2 THEM.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/14/2020 6:07 am

What has happened is the changing definitions of who is a racist, a xenophobe, a misogynist, homophobes, and defining who's the enemy.

By my definition a complete Trump supporter is a RACIST, A misogynist, a xenophobe, and homophobe. Not because they see those people as different from them...In regards to their HOW.. they see those people as exactly like them.. Will think and do to Them, exactly what they think and will do to You .. if they get the chance..... Because of that, and How "those people" are ACTUAL different..Their enemy is in the mirror.
They are racist.. because they think everybody is racist.


NDLady19560 67F

8/14/2020 7:14 am

Wrong!! I’m not a racist-Most ARENT
I’m Not Homophobic-Many Gay Friends
And gays support trump-Not a large number
But there are Republican Gays
Trump Isn’t My Saviour
Jesus Christ Is
JC All You Did In Your Blog Is Repeat Leftists
Talking Points-Nothing Original
I Do Have Democrat Friends-And Family
In My Lifetime Of Voting I Have Even Voted
Democrat
I’m Independant Vote The Man Never The
Party-I Voted Carter And Clinton For Instance


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/14/2020 8:23 am

    Quoting NDLady19560:
    Wrong!! I’m not a racist-Most ARENT
    I’m Not Homophobic-Many Gay Friends
    And gays support trump-Not a large number
    But there are Republican Gays
    Trump Isn’t My Saviour
    Jesus Christ Is
    JC All You Did In Your Blog Is Repeat Leftists
    Talking Points-Nothing Original
    I Do Have Democrat Friends-And Family
    In My Lifetime Of Voting I Have Even Voted
    Democrat
    I’m Independant Vote The Man Never The
    Party-I Voted Carter And Clinton For Instance
Since i didn't mention you.. you must be a "complete Trump supporter.. to say i am wrong.... you must say i am wrong because of My definition of a racist.. Instead of using your definition. Now
Let me ask you.. do you consider yourself a complete Trump supporter, Can you find any fault in Trump?..Would you support a known racist. because that racist supports Trump? Do you consider all Democrats evil? Do democrats conspire and lie to oust trump from office.. Did Russia interfere with the election in 2016? Is the Covid 19 virus a hoax... Is there such a thing as a completely Liberal media? Is the majority of this county trump supporters? if Trump created an unfair election would you kick him out of office.? Did God create everyone equal? is everyone like you? then doesn't it follow that everyone is a racist?
Does the Truth matter to you.. or does what matters to you the truth?


LeafReport 73M

8/14/2020 8:51 am

    Quoting NDLady19560:
    Wrong!! I’m not a racist-Most ARENT
    I’m Not Homophobic-Many Gay Friends
    And gays support trump-Not a large number
    But there are Republican Gays
    Trump Isn’t My Saviour
    Jesus Christ Is
    JC All You Did In Your Blog Is Repeat Leftists
    Talking Points-Nothing Original
    I Do Have Democrat Friends-And Family
    In My Lifetime Of Voting I Have Even Voted
    Democrat
    I’m Independant Vote The Man Never The
    Party-I Voted Carter And Clinton For Instance
I think you're a racist and stupid. I know you are a liar as well. In fact it's entirely possible you are really a horse.


NDLady19560 67F

8/14/2020 8:57 am

I didn’t vote trump 2016 NOT voting 2020
I can’t stand Biden
Of Course I Find Many Faults In Trump
As I Do Biden
Covid Is A Manufactured Virus
The Media Has Completely Magnified It
Russia Of Course Was Involved In 2016
Elections
Trump Has Millions Of Supporters
That’s Why He’s Winning In November
Yes 99% Of Media Is Far Left
Trump I Wouldn’t Kick Out Ever
He’s Been An Excellent President
Economy Before Covid Was The Best It Had
Been In Yrs
He’s Done Exactly What He Said He’d Do
Yes I Want Truth Of Course
Left Only Wants To Destroy The Man
Are YOU Moving To Canada When He Wins
Why Would You Stay Since You Hate The
Man So Much
No Ones Forcing You To Remain Here
Nikki Haley 2024 So Strong Republicans Are
Here To Stay


NDLady19560 67F

8/14/2020 8:59 am

Most Of My Friends Are Black
Hardly A Racist Leaf Blower lol
I Lived For Years In Africa
You’ve Never Been Outside Your
Little Town
Never been on an Airplane
You are to scared lol


LeafReport 73M

8/14/2020 9:09 am

Hi Cricket. In my view Trump supporters don't give a shit how someone gets screwed as long as it happens, regardless of consequences. Once they decide to care about a consequence the are no longer Trump supporters. We've witnessed this publicly hundreds of times now. I'll forgive the idiots but I won't forget that they are idiots. You can't forget even in forgiveness of the Trump sin. This man is indeed evil.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/14/2020 11:39 am

These old folks idiots.. i swear they can't understand anything.. Trump's payroll tax cut is designed to do two things. First save businesses 7.5 % of every employees income.. Second it's to totally destroy social Security and Medicare revenue
Just take two seconds to think about it.
When you figure it out.. he will come up with a "promised" replacement plan... you can believe him then... because you are idiots.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/14/2020 11:50 am

    Quoting NDLady19560:
    I didn’t vote trump 2016 NOT voting 2020
    I can’t stand Biden
    Of Course I Find Many Faults In Trump
    As I Do Biden
    Covid Is A Manufactured Virus
    The Media Has Completely Magnified It
    Russia Of Course Was Involved In 2016
    Elections
    Trump Has Millions Of Supporters
    That’s Why He’s Winning In November
    Yes 99% Of Media Is Far Left
    Trump I Wouldn’t Kick Out Ever
    He’s Been An Excellent President
    Economy Before Covid Was The Best It Had
    Been In Yrs
    He’s Done Exactly What He Said He’d Do
    Yes I Want Truth Of Course
    Left Only Wants To Destroy The Man
    Are YOU Moving To Canada When He Wins
    Why Would You Stay Since You Hate The
    Man So Much
    No Ones Forcing You To Remain Here
    Nikki Haley 2024 So Strong Republicans Are
    Here To Stay
I didn't vote in 2016.. I didn't like either one.. I thought Hillary would be the same old same old.. i was tiring of.. I thought Trump would put Republicans in their place.. I decided the country should elect Trump. that would cure a lot of what ailed US . you got to know the negative at it worse to know what's better. But i couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump for that reason.. Anyway, my thought, at the time is Trump would be a comeuppance for Republicans.. I was wrong.. Trump's actual support was not Republican but fascists, idiots, racists, and self serving assholes of this nation..
Anyway it would be impossible for Trump to win a FAIR election.. So he will have to cheat to win...
I am back at square one. I'm tired of it, and actually wouldn't mind seeing trump win , even though i would vote for Biden. But the comeuppance this time won't be for the Trump supporters it will be for the Democrats. I virtually guarantee Trump Couldn't last a year into his second term. He may not last to inauguration day.
WE are not Belarius, We are not Russian. We put up with shit to certain point and then all hell will break loose.
It could be the best thing that could happen. History has already been written about Trump.. It may be best for America if he goes out with a bang instead of whimper.I don't say this to scare you or convince you.. you go ahead and believe what you want to believe.. Usually I leave the door open , in case i'm wrong,, but not this time.. Trump will NOT survive a second term. It's a good thing Democrats didn't revoke the second amendment.. Thank YOU for that. Trump is the reason the second amendment was written.
You think I would leave MY country if Trump was elected? WRONG!..
The first thing.. i would do is go out and buy a gun. Before TRUMP revokes the second amendment.. You think that's nuts. Well think again. It will be one of the first things he does. he will have to, to maintain his power. Can you say Belarius, can you say Russia.
The idea that if bad people can get guns then good people should be able to get . In a way that makes "Some sense'.. but not to trump.. Trump doesn't fear bad people from getting guns.. He fears good people from getting guns. he may think he could kill someone on fifth avenue and get away with IT.. but try telling that to a 'good' person who has a gun...


NDLady19560 67F

8/14/2020 11:54 am

JC have you always been as far left as you are
Today? How’s it workin’ for Ya? Lol


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/14/2020 12:36 pm

    Quoting NDLady19560:
    JC have you always been as far left as you are
    Today? How’s it workin’ for Ya? Lol
it's working out good..
The assholes on the Left are far more puckered up than those on the Right. The right is wide open assholes..
But the times are a changing..You need to get ready to pucker up, so a beebee can't get up there. The liberal assholes now are going to have to worry about getting it shoved up their ass.
I don't care what side you're on..With a tight asshole or a pie hole.. The shit still stinks the same.
But Trump... he's not an asshole.. He's one big piece of shit.
If you don't know it.. You will NEVER get rid of that stink..


LeafReport 73M

8/14/2020 7:42 pm

    Quoting  :

Bob Did you know a pigeon never shits on eggplant. That's because you're BALD.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
8/14/2020 8:57 pm

This "what" and "how" thing you have going now seems to be a replacement of your previous usage of "objective" and "subjective"......Apparently you require some kind of polarizing agent in order to express yourself. I often see you playing with homonyms in the middle of a sentence, adding to the fuzziness ..I wonder if you are deliberately trying to be oblique......I've seen many people over the years commenting that your posts are confusing, but it doesn't seem to have any effect on your sentence structure........I would like to understand what you say....


trytwice2009 75M
191 posts
8/14/2020 11:44 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    I think you're a racist and stupid. I know you are a liar as well. In fact it's entirely possible you are really a horse.
Look up " Dissociative identity disorder" .


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/15/2020 2:59 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    This "what" and "how" thing you have going now seems to be a replacement of your previous usage of "objective" and "subjective"......Apparently you require some kind of polarizing agent in order to express yourself. I often see you playing with homonyms in the middle of a sentence, adding to the fuzziness ..I wonder if you are deliberately trying to be oblique......I've seen many people over the years commenting that your posts are confusing, but it doesn't seem to have any effect on your sentence structure........I would like to understand what you say....
The objective and the WHAT.. the subjective and the HOW.. I understand the objective and the WHAT..I do not dispute it. I try to expand it to the subjective and the how.
You refuse to acknowledge the subjective and the How.
I knew that from day one.. In discussions about God..I totally agreed with you. That in the objective and the WHAT.. God doesn't exist.. but to me God does exist in the subjective and the HOW> It's not about faith.. It's about what governs our actions, not the action itself.
My idea is that religion, the bible, churches, and priests, are Godless ... IN What they are and in the objective sense.
In the subjective...however, they can be Godlike. Godlike involves faith, principles, trust, love, empathy, honesty, compassion.. Only with these kinds of subjective things.. does God make sense. God can and does, for me, exist in the subjective and in the how.....Yet still, in the objective and the What..God DOESN'T EXIST.
In some things, I have been able to totally combine the two.. my subjective become my objective.. for example with TRUMP. I no longer think about him subjectively.. So i can express myself about him objectively.
But if you want to try and understand what I think about Republicans.. You can't... I can only think about Republicans subjectively.
When I talk to you personally..you want me to be objective, and describe the What.... so you can understand.. I can't, I can't think about you objectively, just subjectively and the how.. It's not personal from my end... but it is from yours.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/15/2020 3:30 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    This "what" and "how" thing you have going now seems to be a replacement of your previous usage of "objective" and "subjective"......Apparently you require some kind of polarizing agent in order to express yourself. I often see you playing with homonyms in the middle of a sentence, adding to the fuzziness ..I wonder if you are deliberately trying to be oblique......I've seen many people over the years commenting that your posts are confusing, but it doesn't seem to have any effect on your sentence structure........I would like to understand what you say....
First understand those things aren't polarizing...To me they are one and the same. Objectivity and the Ahat isn't wrong, And subjectively and the how. doesn't have to be wrong. Objectivity is easily understood.. subjectivity is much harder. It's the difference in understanding a thing and a metaphor. Objectivity defines it.. subjectivity defines all it's possibilities.
There are certain cases in which i disagree with a person objectivity..It makes no sense to me..most of time objectivity is the base of our thinking, but sometimes objectivity can be a LIE.
For example.. One who thinks objectively, yet use "labels" to describe a group of people..It makes no sense.. It can't be done. When it is done.. I throw my subjectivity out the window.. and move right in to How and Why. Because "labels, have nothing to do with the WHAT....Those who do it.. Want You to believe it..But it's a lie.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
8/15/2020 1:36 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    The objective and the WHAT.. the subjective and the HOW.. I understand the objective and the WHAT..I do not dispute it. I try to expand it to the subjective and the how.
    You refuse to acknowledge the subjective and the How.
    I knew that from day one.. In discussions about God..I totally agreed with you. That in the objective and the WHAT.. God doesn't exist.. but to me God does exist in the subjective and the HOW> It's not about faith.. It's about what governs our actions, not the action itself.
    My idea is that religion, the bible, churches, and priests, are Godless ... IN What they are and in the objective sense.
    In the subjective...however, they can be Godlike. Godlike involves faith, principles, trust, love, empathy, honesty, compassion.. Only with these kinds of subjective things.. does God make sense. God can and does, for me, exist in the subjective and in the how.....Yet still, in the objective and the What..God DOESN'T EXIST.
    In some things, I have been able to totally combine the two.. my subjective become my objective.. for example with TRUMP. I no longer think about him subjectively.. So i can express myself about him objectively.
    But if you want to try and understand what I think about Republicans.. You can't... I can only think about Republicans subjectively.
    When I talk to you personally..you want me to be objective, and describe the What.... so you can understand.. I can't, I can't think about you objectively, just subjectively and the how.. It's not personal from my end... but it is from yours.
I certainly don't refuse to acknowledge the Subjective and the How.....that's your own eccentric interpretation of my words, as I have explained to you many times before.

You seem to believe that everyone elses' Subjective viewpoint should conform to yours.......which is the antithesis of Subjectivity.

You keep repeating your perception that God is Subjective and because I reject the idea of a God, I reject subjectivity.........My Subjectivity does not contain a God......My Subjectivity does not require a God in order to have trust, principles, love, empathy, honesty, compassion.......I'm a life-long artist....I have a productive imagination......I have a luscious, rich, vivid inner world.......Yet you have told me repeatedly that I have no "Subjective", because of, apparently, your own limited imagination....


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/15/2020 5:57 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I certainly don't refuse to acknowledge the Subjective and the How.....that's your own eccentric interpretation of my words, as I have explained to you many times before.

    You seem to believe that everyone elses' Subjective viewpoint should conform to yours.......which is the antithesis of Subjectivity.

    You keep repeating your perception that God is Subjective and because I reject the idea of a God, I reject subjectivity.........My Subjectivity does not contain a God......My Subjectivity does not require a God in order to have trust, principles, love, empathy, honesty, compassion.......I'm a life-long artist....I have a productive imagination......I have a luscious, rich, vivid inner world.......Yet you have told me repeatedly that I have no "Subjective", because of, apparently, your own limited imagination....
IT AMAZING HOW YOU ANSWER MY STATEMENT IN THE AFFIRMATIVE AND DONT REALIZE IT.. SUBJECTJVE IS SUBJECTIVE.... wtf DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?. SUBJECTIVE IS NOT OBJECTIVE..SUBJECTIVE IS POSSIBILITIES... OBJECTIVE IS NO OTHER POSSIBILITIES. YOU READ MY POSSIBILITY OF SUBJECTIVE AS BEING OBJECTIVE . THAT 'S WHY YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/15/2020 6:27 pm

    Quoting  :

Okay a who what where and.. and separately the how..

A particular black person is different from me because his/her skin is black.. that is an objective statement that defines a single person.. who one can identify objectively

Black people are different than me. because their skin is black..is a subjective statement .Black can't be used as a defining characteristic for group.. because it is undefined. some black is not the same as another ,both in color and characteristic,. the how, or the why or the reasoon a person would make that kind of statement is wrong.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
8/15/2020 8:23 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    IT AMAZING HOW YOU ANSWER MY STATEMENT IN THE AFFIRMATIVE AND DONT REALIZE IT.. SUBJECTJVE IS SUBJECTIVE.... wtf DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?. SUBJECTIVE IS NOT OBJECTIVE..SUBJECTIVE IS POSSIBILITIES... OBJECTIVE IS NO OTHER POSSIBILITIES. YOU READ MY POSSIBILITY OF SUBJECTIVE AS BEING OBJECTIVE . THAT 'S WHY YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
Why did you reply to me in all capitals?.....We've been here before.....You obviously have no intention or desire for your posts to be understood by others, though you post these amorphous blogs in a public forum, where we assume your intent is to communicate........

You seem to believe that "Subjective" is like another reality that exists and others can tune into if only they understood.

Subjective is individual....it's not a common area.....You are presented over and over with the confusion caused by your posts, but you never seem to waver from your conviction that it is your audience that isn't "getting it".......I don't know why I fell for it again.....I should know by now that the only communication you desire is with yourself.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/16/2020 4:59 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Why did you reply to me in all capitals?.....We've been here before.....You obviously have no intention or desire for your posts to be understood by others, though you post these amorphous blogs in a public forum, where we assume your intent is to communicate........

    You seem to believe that "Subjective" is like another reality that exists and others can tune into if only they understood.

    Subjective is individual....it's not a common area.....You are presented over and over with the confusion caused by your posts, but you never seem to waver from your conviction that it is your audience that isn't "getting it".......I don't know why I fell for it again.....I should know by now that the only communication you desire is with yourself.
Cap locks were on and i didn't realize.. caps has no meaning.. unless it was totally subconscience.

you understand subjective.. but you don't do subjective.. your subjectivity is different than mine.. your subjectivity is not wrong. Explain your subjectivity, act subjectively.. I will not disagree.I expect it to be different...You say God.. You say god doesn't exist, and that is suppose to end it. Well it doesn't . God has some sort of meaning or you wouldn't say it. But since he doesn't exist. You refuse to acknowledge any subjective meaning..Even Your own.
Saying God doesn't exist. which objectively is true.. but subjectively saying it says he does. or you wouldn't be able to say it.
It's like..... something is not nothing.. .....but nothing is something..
you must think of it subjectively to understand it.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/16/2020 5:50 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Why did you reply to me in all capitals?.....We've been here before.....You obviously have no intention or desire for your posts to be understood by others, though you post these amorphous blogs in a public forum, where we assume your intent is to communicate........

    You seem to believe that "Subjective" is like another reality that exists and others can tune into if only they understood.

    Subjective is individual....it's not a common area.....You are presented over and over with the confusion caused by your posts, but you never seem to waver from your conviction that it is your audience that isn't "getting it".......I don't know why I fell for it again.....I should know by now that the only communication you desire is with yourself.
we talked of Art as being subjective. there is obviously many different interpretations. Objectively the art is the 'thing'.. subjectively it's what the art means
but here's the rub.
Here's what i believe you do...You look at the art subjectively.. decide it's subjectivity.. then objectify it.. limiting it to YOUR particular subjectivity.
You objectify your own subjectivity. Which denies subjectivity in general.
That doesn't mean you're wrong. It just means you have a narrow view.....don't worry about it.. so does most of the world.
For me .. I subjectivity determined the meaning....but do not objectify it.. my idea about it remains subjective.. no one else's interpretation subjectively can be wrong.
It's the purest factor of artists.
For people to subjectively come to a different interpretation that works.. Artists, subjectively, discover their own art. It doesn't change their intent. It expands their intent subjectively. Artists see thing subjectively and try to create an object that expresses that subjectivity. Great Artist do the same thing.. but great artists do not limit themselves to create an object limited to their own particular subjectivity. For great artist discovering a meaning to their art... is more important than the meaning you discover.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/16/2020 6:30 am

Sparkle .. you think I'm wrong.. you think I can assume what a great artist think.I don't really how a great artist think...I just know it 's impossible to be an artist and think otherwise

Your idea is that you can think of something subjectively and discover it's meaning then express it in an object. Great artist just do it better than you.. That's not the case..

Transforming a subjective idea to an object.. must maintain a degree of subjectivity.. As soon as an artist, tries to only make his/her subjectivity into an object..They deny the subjectivity of that object. It can't be done.. you can't create a single idea of subjectivity.
An artist who would deny a different interpretation from the artist's intent..Is no ARTIST. but an object creator. objectifying their own subjectivity.. It can't be done successfully, by someone who sees things subjectively.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
8/20/2020 4:15 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    Sparkle .. you think I'm wrong.. you think I can assume what a great artist think.I don't really how a great artist think...I just know it 's impossible to be an artist and think otherwise

    Your idea is that you can think of something subjectively and discover it's meaning then express it in an object. Great artist just do it better than you.. That's not the case..

    Transforming a subjective idea to an object.. must maintain a degree of subjectivity.. As soon as an artist, tries to only make his/her subjectivity into an object..They deny the subjectivity of that object. It can't be done.. you can't create a single idea of subjectivity.
    An artist who would deny a different interpretation from the artist's intent..Is no ARTIST. but an object creator. objectifying their own subjectivity.. It can't be done successfully, by someone who sees things subjectively.
You're hilarious.......a person who has spent his whole life in a box, manipulating numbers......is lecturing a wilderness adventurer,a lifelong student of art and a prolific artist about art.....about her own art that he has never seen........ Ridiculous man.......


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
8/20/2020 9:38 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    You're hilarious.......a person who has spent his whole life in a box, manipulating numbers......is lecturing a wilderness adventurer,a lifelong student of art and a prolific artist about art.....about her own art that he has never seen........ Ridiculous man.......
Man.. I ain't lecturing you.. i don't know you from squat.

Your problem is you think I'm talking at you... Hell I aint even talking with you.
Those are my observations, my subjective ideas.. I know nothing about yours, except you can't understand mine. I don't have to be right..In fact, I know I'm not right.

You seem to believe I am totally objective like you.. I'm not..the possibilities are endless, the questions too many, and the answers are not for me to tell you, but for you to tell yourself.
We are two people standing on a beach.. you are looking at the water edge.. I am looking at the horizon.. Our difference..is I know there is an ocean between us.