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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
6/2/2020 6:23 am
Policing


Such a "loaded" word.... the warped meaning, itself, has defined our loss of democracy.
It's has defined Dictators...throughout the world.. and has come to the shores of America.
it has warped the definitions of the second amendment. and almost every other amendment.
In a democracy.. there is NO policing force. Policing is the force of the people. The police are the people
The police are not a separate force...they are an adjunct to the people. Well at least that's the way it suppose to be.

Law enforcement is not a law in itself.. it is the will of the people
Law enforcement is not handed over to a "force"..Law enforcement does control laws....Laws control law enforcement. both police and some fake news protester. are "outsiders".. And the funny thing outsider....is every damn one of them believe themselves to be above the law.
You don't give up your right to law enforcement. You don't give up your control to law enforcement..You don't give up your responsibility to law enforcement. you can't avoid law enforcement, by putting it in someone else hands..

In that context the battle between protesters and Law enforcement is absurd. It's defining of sides when there are no sides. It defines the loss of our Democracy.
There are some signs that it is coming to an end..
It's defeating a growth, that has occurred over the last seventy years. In the idea that policing defines opposing sides..

It will end when protester understand their responsibility to police themselves.
And far more important when the police decide.. they are the people.. and MUST
police themselves.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
6/2/2020 6:29 am

People seem to think that Trump is not responsible for this....he didn't kill George Floyd..

From day one in office.. he has propagated.. his ideas of policing.. as both control and dictatorial power.. Now, he has including the military for POLICING. He creates sides .. when there is none. He defines Policing in his own image.
He is the MOST evil..of the evil.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
6/2/2020 1:22 pm

"After vowing Monday to deploy military force to restore order in states that fail to “dominate” unlawful demonstrations, President Trump on Tuesday all but ordered New York City to request help from the National Guard.

“NYC, CALL UP THE NATIONAL GUARD,” Trump tweeted. “The lowlifes and losers are ripping you apart. Act fast! Don’t make the same horrible and deadly mistake you made with the Nursing Homes!!!”


"lowlifes and losers are ripping you apart"......
"lowlifes and losers are ripping you apart"...
"lowlifes and losers are ripping you apart"...

Seriously....Who says shit like that?
Seriously....Who says shit like that?

WTF is wrong with you people... You think you have to explain it..to \be able to justify it or condemn it..

Who would think that? who could possibly think they could get away with saying that.

Lowlifes and losers are ruining your life.. WTF?

If you think that... You are the LOWLIFE and LOSER who's ruining you own life.


LeafReport 73M

6/2/2020 5:37 pm

You wrote ...It will end when protester understand their responsibility to police themselves.
And far more important when the police decide.. they are the people.. and MUST
police themselves.

That's the way I see it as well...but we aren't there yet...this is bigger than people think.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
6/3/2020 6:01 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    You wrote ...It will end when protester understand their responsibility to police themselves.
    And far more important when the police decide.. they are the people.. and MUST
    police themselves.

    That's the way I see it as well...but we aren't there yet...this is bigger than people think.
I hate it when people say systemic racism...I disagree with phasing it that way..
There are so many systemic problems.....Racism as systemic doesn't quite cut it for me.
In this example..
the police have a systemic problem...of self absorption, self righteousness, and most important self protection. They have unwritten codes. those unwritten codes are systemic. Those systemic problems lead to racism...Not racism leading to those systemic problems

Trump IS a systemic problem.

Capitalism has a systemic problem.

Government has a systemic problem and
Politicians have a systemic problem.....with Trust and Truth

Religions, and it's role in government.. has systemic problems

Hypocrisy is a systemic problem

My idea of systemic......is acceptance in lieu of rational, of the root of the problem that feeds all the other problems...Since 1960 racism started becoming non-systemic..it's been thwarted, when outwardly acknowledge as the "bad apple."..When that fruit of that has to hide itself, to protect itself, it's no longer systemic.......Although that tree still produces some 'bad apples" but it's no longer the fault of the tree. It's the "insects" that infect the tree.