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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
1/30/2020 7:03 am
The "So What?" Defense is really offensive..


The "So What" defense...... after all is said and done.. The truth is known.. The defense is So what?
Did Trump extort and bribe the Ukraine to do him a "favor"., and would favor assist him his election. Is Trump interfering in our elections?.
This is the example we have been through numerous times. His dealings with Russia, his dealings with Autocrats, His lies, his emoluments., his racism, his immigration policies.. his threats, our fears, and the Character assassinations.

His defense is ALWAYS the same... First you deny, Then you coverup, Then you say everybody does it. Especially those damn Democrats.
Once you get caught, Once your lies are proven... You pull the Trump card...
SO WHAT?

Now maybe you can understand . 's how it's done..It's been done so many times you can't miss it.

But most of you, do miss the most crucial point.. The "So What" defense doesn't come at the end.. It comes at the beginning. It's not a defensive strategy... it's an offensive strategy. although Trump plays the card at the end..(if he has )...It's up his sleeve the beginning assure a winning hand.
His supporters know it the beginning..
Collusion with Russia beat Hillary... So What?.
Trump is lining his pockets as President ..So What?
Trump lies protect himself..So What?
Trump is going used whatever he can interfere with the elections.. So What?s

And finally the saddest truth of all..Neither the Democrat or the Republicans position on this has the majority..
The majority of American.. Are the ones don't care..Are the ones created the So What? offense and defense. So Trump can use it....
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jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/30/2020 8:04 am

It would appear that more people support the Democrat position about truth and Lies. Any one who cares would HAVE TO come to that conclusions. About the truth and lie of how you go about doing it, not about what you are trying to do.
Maria Yovanovich is the best example of that.. Yovanovich was removed from her position as ambassador to the Ukraine.. No one doubts Trump has the authority to do that. For most people that would end the conversation about impeachment. However, most can't separate the what of it from the how of it..they simply don't care. They are two separate issues, one has nothing to do with the other.. The firing is the event....the "how" is the impeachable pattern of behavior..That is indicative of the greater crime.

Democrats are forced to jump through hoops.. like circus "clowns'.. That's what the Democrats are doing..Trying to prove what's already known. Making the fight the issue and not the truth. A fight that when comes down to it.. people say So What?

There is only one impeachable issue for Trump..The is only one issue that people won't say So What.. that is Treason..
The pattern of behavior of trump.. the how of it is indicative of Treason.. the how of interference is indicative of Treason. the how of Trump dealing with Russia is indicative of treason..The how of Trump circumventing the Constitution is indicative of Treason.. Whether Democrats can Prove TREASON is immaterial... all the Democrats have to do is prove treasonous behavior.. to get the point across.

The Democrats MUST put the shoe on the other foot.. You don't need PROOF of treason.. You can't have treason without the ACCUSATION of treason..
Trump will hand everything else to you on a silver platter.. and then say so what?
The idea of this impeachment and it's obvious failure from the get go. May appear to Democrats like an unveiling of the truth.. But the way the Democrats went about it nobody cares what THAT truth is.
We know Trump plays to his base...what Democrats don't know is they do the exact same thing. They just don't lie about it. WELL it's time Democrats quit Playing... pussyfootin around...expand their truth to the unknown of TREASON.. make people care. Make it so people can't say So What?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/30/2020 9:33 am

Democrats are like Elizabeth Warren, small minds with Big Plans..Warren plays to that..
We can do it... get rid of those Damn Republican obstructionists. Get rid of the rich, and their Dark money".. Take over and we can get it done.

Yeah just like the "pubs' we got to clear the road before we drive over it.
Drinks are on the house.. but you got climb the ladder before you get there.
"Truth.. We don't need no stinkin truth" everything could be 'beautiful' if you just see it MY WAY
It won't take much just a wealth tax... .. all I want is my" two cents" worth..
WE can do it.. they've been doing it to US for so long..We need to do it to them.

Dear Elizabeth..

WTF have you been doing in the Senate for the last ten years.."Fighting the good fight"..
AND LOSING.
Blaming it on THEM?
You, Now, need our help....WRONG
We needed your help...You got the shoe on the wrong foot lady.
House the homeless, Clothes the poor, Feed the children. Healthcare for All, Education for all.. Make America greater..
Sorry Elizabeth... America is already great. and you missed the boat...We got problems , but they need to measured in inches not miles... One foot at a time.
No Elizabeth... want can't do it..Get fulfilled by eating a half baked pie in the sky.

You see Democrats need our help.......We don't need there's
Democrats..Want us to prove ourselves to them.. when we want them to prove themselves to US
Democrats think the natural order of things. is that good things should come to people who do nothing.
Democrats got the pretty uniforms.. but they are down three touchdowns in the fourth quarter.. and they won't give up.... on trying to make it all up in one play. They talk the game then let other people pay it and play it.
They need to draft Mahomes. Go Chiefs!


LeafReport 73M

1/30/2020 4:29 pm

Thank God you are here to contribute. I couldn't handle it without you.

Go Chiefs!!! I can't wait.


TxJW_P 81M

1/30/2020 5:17 pm

What would happen tomorrow if trump just went away tonight?
Perhaps we could relax?
Hopefully it will happen in the future.
A goal of most everyone I know.
Our country is going insane.
Party


LeafReport 73M

1/30/2020 10:39 pm

Regarding Warren you're way off the mark. The problem here is not big ideas, it is obstruction in the senate...with hundreds of bills that would make a huge difference lay in waiting because McConnell is denying the people a rightful debate and vote. It's ALWAYS the RESULT that matters...not the HOW to gum it up in the first place.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/31/2020 6:44 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    Regarding Warren you're way off the mark. The problem here is not big ideas, it is obstruction in the senate...with hundreds of bills that would make a huge difference lay in waiting because McConnell is denying the people a rightful debate and vote. It's ALWAYS the RESULT that matters...not the HOW to gum it up in the first place.
Well that's the point.. if it's obstruction in the Senate...which it is.. and she has been a Senators for ten year..And her only solution is to get rid of the obstructionist.. WTF has she been doing?
It would seem to me that not being able to make a dent in it as a Senators... Would make it impossible to get done as the President..
Elizabeth Warren Does not have the ability to do it .. she wants us to it.. for her.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/31/2020 6:59 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    Thank God you are here to contribute. I couldn't handle it without you.

    Go Chiefs!!! I can't wait.
there is an irony..I'm great at "ironing".. Anyway..Democrats, unlike Republicans. TRY to be careful to have proof and tell the Truth.the irony is they would get less flack if they didn't do that..
Accuse without proof..
Make outrageous statements, alternate facts.
One could actually take a position that the News is fake news. because it give Trump more credit than he deserves.. The Truth is the news in preventing themselves from being biased is actually biased for Trump...The democrat do the exact same thing..

Fox news can Lie and support Trump.
But the regular news can't tell the truth and ABSOLUTELY destroy Trump. The regular NEWS is just like Democrats.... pussyfooters.. They tell you it's shit..but They never tell you HOW MUCH IT STINKS

The Irony is the Liberal News media and Democrats are actually biased for Trump
"benefit of the Doubt...ers" for Trump.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/31/2020 7:35 am

If they can call Schiff.."Shifty Schiff".. I certainly can call Trump...TRAITOR TRUMP.

The irony of Nadler speaking the truth, and admonishing Senators, for who they were..Nadler was taken to the carpet.. Roberts, Admonished both side for decorum in the Senate.. because of what Nadler said..

Amazingly... the Democrats toned it down..but the President attorneys stepped it up, never to be admonished again. it was sickening ...the accusation they made without any proof. The accusation they made against Congress against Democrats.. The Republican Senators and Democrat Senators, and the Supreme Court Justice.. Just let it happen. There is no doubt that the Republican Senators have no decency, have no integrity, has no empathy, and have no sense of the brotherhood of congress.

I say f*ck that shit.. what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I say Presidental "absolute immunity" doesn't extend to his attorney on the Senate floor.. How about a little truth?
The whole thing reeked with it's own article of impeachment. The proof?....Democrats didn't need any proof...The proof was not to be found in the trial debate or trial presentation of evidence.. The proof was staring them in the face.. The Trial itself., was all that was needed to impeach this President.
It was all right there in the Trial....The Lies, The accusations without investigation, The election interference, vote fixing, The collusion, and the extortion.. It was all there, in plain sight, in that so called injustice of a Trial.
Of course the similarity will continue.. post trial when Republican senator say they were not pressured to vote that way..Trump or Mcconnell did not put any pressured them.. they were NOT extorted for the vote, they were NOT bribed for their vote.
Like it is possible to get those fifty three Republican Senators to agree on anything, but WINNING.. You wouldn't have a better chance of their agreement. if they all were All Jehovah Witnesses .


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/31/2020 7:58 am

I find it amazing how Republican think Democrats are stupid... Republicans fight the short game.. Democrat fight the long game.
thsi impeachment was destined to lose.. the democrats knew it..Yet still did it.. willing to lose, for a greater good in the long game..
You know Republicans will never understand it.....How to lose to win.


TxJW_A 81M

1/31/2020 10:38 am

Jiminy
For someone who a lot of people claim not to understand you sure have a lot of readers.
Never stop blogging
Party On!

Yes repubs will loose the senate over this one.
People want to listen.----Corporate repubs don't want them to hear. Simple
Check polls