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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
1/18/2020 5:09 am
Coverups, Obstuction and Trump.. It's just a distraction


Leaf.....You missed the .. Trump's not cooperating is not about the Ukraine, or the or Barr. Trump not wanting witnesses or documents is not about those things either..

What Trump is doing is covering up the truth about "other" things. Much more damning things.

He already knows you know the truth about the Ukraine and it doesn't matter..But the evidence about the Ukraine contains evidence of "other things" ..he's not going to hand it over. he's not going to give you that evidence. It's like his tax returns or the Mueller investigation.. his tax return may not have stuff about Russia.. but it could contain "other" stuff about the Saudi Arabia and Israel, and corruption.. It could contain stuff about other illegal activities.

The Mueller investigation.. that's the best one of his..You got to remember what was happening..The Primary directive of the Mueller investigation was it has to be limited to Russia. that was what mattered.. How many battle were fought over where the Mueller investigation could go? His obstruction of the Russia investigation.. was a coverup of his other dealings..Things he didn't want Mueller to ask.. His primary objective was to prevent Mueller from asking.

Hannity came up the other night..With the "SO WHAT" defense? The problem is that is the entire defense from day one..The president is doing is the "so what" defense
Mulvaney said that in his news conference... "So What?"..."Get over it"..Trump was pissed, not because it wasn't true, not because Trump hadn't express that to Mulvaney........ but Trump knew it wasn't the right time to say it.

Trump sets you up .. by lying and denying.. You get so outraged to get the proof..And when it finally comes... like the Mueller report.. you think you got him...Then he says... So What?

Trump hides the "small potatoes" and when you find ones. You think you got something..and you stop looking.. In meantime, Trump is protecting and hiding..the "big" potatoes..

That's how criminals do it.. that's how Trump does it..Give Them NOTHING
The idea here ...you need to do.. is that the big picture defines all the small pictures.. The small picture doesn't Define the big one.

Start with the big pictures and find the multitude of small pictures that define it.
Forget the ideas of Lies and coverup and obstruction.. it doesn't matter. Go for the Big stuff.
Like Treason, fixing elections, selling "favors", buying favors. blackmail, nepotism, laundering, Collusion and Conspiracy.. define those things and then find ALL the small potatoes that paint the picture.. he's doesn't do it ONE time.. he does those things ALL the time.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/18/2020 5:40 am

Let talk about election interference...Seriously that's all we should be talking about.
Trump is being impeached for having a foreign government interfere in our elections.
I am not saying that isn't serious.. but seriously.. that ship left a long time ago. That ship left when Trump asked Russians to investigate Hillary, and steal her emails.. That ship left.. when the Mueller report came out.. That ship left when Trump said he would do it again. That ship left when Trump asked the Ukraine and China to investigate the Bidens.
How much more.. SO What?... Do you need?

So what you think is a big potato... has been turned into a small potato. Election interference is serious.. whether it's foreign or Domestic.. Trump will continue to do it. in every way possible.. you need to gather up all those small potatoes. every one.. to make that stick.

Let me start you off with one.. It's so amazing..It's beyond belief.. the Supreme court in June will hear a case.. It's a Trump America case..
In the states of Washington, Colorado and Pennsylvania.. Six members of the electoral college failed to vote for their designated elected. there are 538 members of the electoral college.. 29 States have specific laws that they MUST vote for the designated elected in the State..
All 6 designated electoral college delegates Change their vote away from Hillary Clinton.
State reprimands and punishment (fines) ensued.

The Supreme Court in June will hear the case and will determine if the 538 delegates have the right to vote for anybody they choose.

In which case 538 people.. will determine who is the next President.
ONLY IN TRUMP"S AMERICA IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE.

The electoral college may be unfair.. but this is a complete destruction of our election system.


LeafReport 73M

1/18/2020 9:01 am

Hey Cricket...it is about other things...that is what I said too. But now we're finding out from Parnas just how broad it actually is...and it's astonishing.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/18/2020 12:08 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    Hey Cricket...it is about other things...that is what I said too. But now we're finding out from Parnas just how broad it actually is...and it's astonishing.
yes exactly and there is more... Trump is not going to open the door to those things. That's why he's obstructing.. And that's why the obstruction is his coverup.


LeafReport 73M

1/18/2020 12:20 pm

I don't remember the issue with the Electoral College but on the surface I would think states wouldn't be able to mandate how electors vote. That said, the reality that both parties have managed to pack this with their own activists the safety net that was envisioned has already disappeared. This is why I support the movement to amend the constitution and eliminate it. I also support efforts to rein in gerrymandering that I believe is the greatest threat now to our freedom. As a practical matter however, and perhaps the brilliance of the founding fathers, the best way to fix this mess is for the voters themselves to do it. I still have faith, though it is fading, that the voters can indeed get it done. But time is not on our side.


LeafReport 73M

1/18/2020 12:21 pm

I should follow the above up with one more observation...that would be Moscow Mitch's defeat or natural death.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/18/2020 12:49 pm

    Quoting LeafReport:
    I don't remember the issue with the Electoral College but on the surface I would think states wouldn't be able to mandate how electors vote. That said, the reality that both parties have managed to pack this with their own activists the safety net that was envisioned has already disappeared. This is why I support the movement to amend the constitution and eliminate it. I also support efforts to rein in gerrymandering that I believe is the greatest threat now to our freedom. As a practical matter however, and perhaps the brilliance of the founding fathers, the best way to fix this mess is for the voters themselves to do it. I still have faith, though it is fading, that the voters can indeed get it done. But time is not on our side.
You need to read up on the case... States don't mandate the votes of the electoral delegates... the vote mandates it.. the State enforces it. these delegates are assigned to the vote. once a delegate is assigned he shouldn't be able to change it should be able to change it.
the electoral college works jsut a like a a primary convention...delegates are assigned accoording to the primary vote.. delegates representing the vote are assigned. but after the first vote delegates can change their vote. The electoral college works the same way, except they shouldn't be able to change it..