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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
1/15/2020 7:54 am
The raging debate...


Here's the deal..As we view the candidates on that stage..one needs ask themsleves... who acts presidential....Not of them actually look presidential. Forget the policies, they don't matter...relatively it's all the same. Big Plans ..Little plans it all just..Plans...In reality there is much more it than a "plan".. Like what are you going do in the first hundred days..WTF is that...I want know what your going BE ABLE do.. in the next 1360 days after that..

Well.. I made my choice that happens be a non choice for . It's depressing..
That's Mayor Pete.. he's the most presidential...He the least likely blame it all on something "else"..
Like the progressive socialists.. blame it all on corrupt and the big bad corporations...I'm sorry, but i choose leave that boogieman in the closet. Hate is hate... no matter who you hate.
Like Biden who every time he steps on his "tongue" I see an ' man" who live in a shoe.I can't help but yell.. OUCH!
Or billionaires who think the Republicans shouldn't buy elections.. BUT THEY CAN.

So we discuss who can't win...Socialists, billionaires, or women..WTF is wrong with these people? And why am I depressed? no one wants talk about the elephant in the room..How the one that should win..can't win.... A socialist President..A billionaire President, or a woman President? Trying defeat a possibility that exists... and ignore the impossible... An "in your face"... Gay President.

but here's the second deal... if Mayor Pete could just win the Presidency.. His winning would be such a victory, a mandate against hate and stupidity, and prejudice....and it wouldn't matter what he does as president..


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/15/2020 10:10 am

A woman can't be president or a socialist can't be president... WTF?
The day we elect a GAY president..... is the day we can honestly say... Anybody in America can be president..

I'm depressed because I KNOW this country ain't ready for it...Some of you who live in fantasyland may think it is....But it's Not... Not today, not in this environment, Not with this President, Trump. Not with our division. Not with the kinds of prejudice this country has
. WTF you think.. when a black person can become a baker.... and gay person can't even buy a cake... We got too many "cake eaters" and not enough bakers.
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jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/15/2020 10:58 am

So.. you think you are prepared for the hate mongering..

One of the commentators, Chris Cuomo, asked Mayor Pete what nickname Trump would give him..what rhymes with Pete?.. then he ended his discussion with Mayor Pete.. Happy New Year to You and YOUR HUSBAND!

"Peter" Buttigieg.....
.If you love "peter"... you'll love Buttigieg...
Make you daughter safe in Washington DC.
Does anybody really know who on top in Washington.. and who's on their knees?
First Husband? Who wears the pants.. Who gets to do it.. to whom?
Black people don't support mayor "Peter".. not because they don't know him.. but because he's GAY.....Religious right people won't vote for him because he's gay.. homophobes won't vote for him because he's gay. Misogynists won't vote for him because he's gay... Only "assholes" will vote for him because he's GAY
President "Butt a gig"... take one up the ass... for America.
Mayor Pete "loves" everybody...That's the problem
What's going to happen to our foreign policy.. When the woman leaders of the world can't give our president a "blow job"?
God does not approve
An observation: in a hierarchy employees tend to rise to the level of their incompetence.."rising" to a unaccustomed level... is called the "peter" principle
Think of all the sons of America.. that will be turning GAY..
Mayor Pete is anti pregnancy .....so he must be anti abortion
We had had a president who was the poster child for Eubonics. Now we are getting a President who will become the new poster for eugenics...Population control..for the whole country.. by which hole you put it in..
We can give thanks.. that in the future their can be no "Little Peters"
A compromise to this President won't be about give and take...it will be about taking turns.
But we can thank god.. We won't have a President going around grabbing women's pussy, or putting his hands on their shoulders, or consoling them or paying them, or manipulating them. But instead wishing he was one..Can a transgendered President be far "behind"? or is it "a bridge too far", to be "behind"

One of the problem of our national security as it relates to the Muslim world.. Is that we export our western culture.. to a world that still lives in the dark ages..and LIKES it... We important Democracy, Human rights.. woman rights..equality fariness, justice and the separation of Church and State and education, communications and truth..... We export how Christianity can survive, without governing ( although that one, we seems to be doing more importing than exporting).. We do all this "in their face" against their religion, against their self governing...because WE know better...and they hate US for it... WTF?.. do you think...they are going to think..When we start exporting a different kind of evil to them..we will set them off.. more than they already have been. A woman president would be bad enough.. but a GAY president? and saying...."Gay is good".
We won't be taking out Solemaini.. We will be trying to take out their religion, with a different kind of "drone" strike.
But don't worry about it.. it ain't going to happen.... because WE are more like them.. than they are like who WE Want to be.


LeafReport 73M

1/15/2020 2:58 pm

I find it distressing that there isn't a woman who can win this time. Mayor Pete is interesting but not enough for me. See me in 10 years. It's Bloomberg for me and beyond that I'm still open to alternatives.

I want nothing to do with the fascist Trump...that's not up for any debate whatsoever.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
1/15/2020 8:33 pm

That's quite the stream-of-consciousness riff you got going there Cricket old son......


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/16/2020 6:43 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    I find it distressing that there isn't a woman who can win this time. Mayor Pete is interesting but not enough for me. See me in 10 years. It's Bloomberg for me and beyond that I'm still open to alternatives.

    I want nothing to do with the fascist Trump...that's not up for any debate whatsoever.
well I think we can agree the pedals of Washington have broken off..And its being pushed and pulled to try and get Us somewhere..People want a NEW bicycle.

But where are we going get one..? what kind? Some want a uni-cycle.. just one Big wheel. ..some want multi wheels..But nobody wants to pedal the tandem one that's broken..

I honestly don't care what kind of bike you want..But you can't go get it..until we FIX the pedals on the one we have. Some people Don't want the Old one.. Broken pedals aren't enough damage.. So they want the wheels to fall off.. too.

Anyway.. my choice is someone who can fix the pedals..secure the wheels, and if we choose pedal our way to a new bicycle.

If you can't deal with what you have... You will never be able to deal with what you want.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/16/2020 7:29 am

Never in my entire life.. I have seen the conspiracy nuts..finally give rise to a truth.

I am astounded.... of course these things taken individually..don't seem so bad.. but collectively it defines the deep State and the conspiracy..

We can begin with the "mafia boss'' TRUMP..add in the second mafia boss Putin.. and their conspiracy to divide up their territory.

We throwin their underlings..
The old indictees..
1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, was arrested in July 2017 and pleaded guilty in October 2017 to making false statements to the FBI. He got a 14-day sentence.

2) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted on a total of 25 different counts by Mueller’s team, related mainly to his past work for Ukrainian politicians and his finances. He had two trials scheduled, and the first ended in a conviction on eight counts of financial crimes. To avert the second trial, Manafort struck a plea deal with Mueller in September 2018 (though Mueller’s team said in November that he breached that agreement by lying to them). He was sentenced to a combined seven and a half years in prison.

3) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February 2018 he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge. He was sentenced to 45 days in prison and 3 years of probation.

4) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December 2017 to making false statements to the FBI.

5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller. He was sentenced to 6 months in prison and 6 months of home detention in October 2018.

22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail and has completed his sentence.

23) Konstantin Kilimnik: This longtime business associate of Manafort and Gates, who’s currently based in Russia, was charged alongside Manafort with attempting to obstruct justice by tampering with witnesses in Manafort’s pending case last year.

24-35) 12 Russian GRU officers: These officers of Russia’s military intelligence service were charged with crimes related to the hacking and leaking of leading Democrats’ emails in 2016.

36) Michael Cohen: In August 2018, Trump’s former lawyer pleaded guilty to 8 counts — tax and bank charges, related to his finances and taxi business, and campaign finance violations — related to hush money payments to women who alleged affairs with Donald Trump, as part of a separate investigation in New York (that Mueller had handed off). But in November, he made a plea deal with Mueller too, for lying to Congress about efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

37) Roger Stone: In January 2019, Mueller indicted longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone on 7 counts. He accused Stone of lying to the House Intelligence Committee about his efforts to get in touch with WikiLeaks during the campaign, and tampering with a witness who could have debunked his story. He was convicted on all counts after a November 2019 trial.

Now Parnas...who has actually tied the FULL conspiracy together. Amazing the planning and coordination..on multiple fronts. In regards to the Ukraine.
The amazing thing was Parnas. view of drinking at Trump tower.. How they all met all the time.. How they all were in on it. How they each had their Parts to play.
Pence
Gullianni
Barr
Nunez
McCarthy
Pompeo
Trump's attorneys.. Fox News attorneys.
Protections and payoff

How they wheeled and dealed.. with leverage, and pardons, and money..How they worked with Russians.How there was no deal too big...And even in the light of all the indictments..They know if they keep their nose clean about "other things' With these things they can act with immunity.
They don't have to worry about Trump throwing them under the bus...As long as they don't step in front of it.

My Gosh.. this is HUGE. It's the greatest conspiracy EVER on the American people. There is only ONe conspiracy that COULD ever work in this country. It only takes the fact that the President of the United States is in on it.

So many fingers.. so many pies.. So many 'black' birds.. sitting in a tree..
K I SS I N G.... his ASS

Sing a song of sixpence,
A pocket full of rye,
Four and twenty blackbirds
Baked in a pie.

When the pie was opened
The birds began to sing—
Wasn't that a dainty dish
To set before the king?

The king was in the counting-house
Counting out his money,
The queen was in the parlor
Eating bread and honey,

The "made" were in the garden
Hanging out the clothes.
Along came a blackbird
And snipped off their nose.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
1/16/2020 8:38 am

[I"I want nothing to do with the fascist Trump...that's not up for any debate whatsoever."

I know you and others can't understand where I'm coming from....and Why I hate labels so much..

"fascist Trump" that's the way you think of him?
First to define fascism that way..and second to limit Trump to your definition.
So, I believe that's Trump CORRUPTION isn't JUST fascist...
He the WANG of the Ying and Yang...The good and the bad... makes no difference.
he's a Mushroom Dick.. It doesn't make any difference.. The Ying and the Yang of truth and Lies. the Ying and Yang of decency and corruption. The Ying and Yang of right and wrong....... He is the Wang that hangs in the middle..for it's Own self satisfaction.

So you think he's Fascist or maybe Racist...but what you don't consider..is he considers himself neither.. because about shit like that.. he doesn't give a shit. He's not trying to be fascist or racist... Just be a KING.


LeafReport 73M

1/17/2020 9:30 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    [I"I want nothing to do with the fascist Trump...that's not up for any debate whatsoever."

    I know you and others can't understand where I'm coming from....and Why I hate labels so much..

    "fascist Trump" that's the way you think of him?
    First to define fascism that way..and second to limit Trump to your definition.
    So, I believe that's Trump CORRUPTION isn't JUST fascist...
    He the WANG of the Ying and Yang...The good and the bad... makes no difference.
    he's a Mushroom Dick.. It doesn't make any difference.. The Ying and the Yang of truth and Lies. the Ying and Yang of decency and corruption. The Ying and Yang of right and wrong....... He is the Wang that hangs in the middle..for it's Own self satisfaction.

    So you think he's Fascist or maybe Racist...but what you don't consider..is he considers himself neither.. because about shit like that.. he doesn't give a shit. He's not trying to be fascist or racist... Just be a KING.
I agree with much of how you characterize the mess we're in. A new kind of fascism is emerging and its so incredibly dangerous. The movement has already lassoed vulnerable people, Bigblock among others, who have literally lost their minds here. I used to label these goons stupid but they've evolved so much its time to expose these crazies.