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jiminycricket1 73M
5404 posts
12/13/2019 10:30 am
Trump and Russia


Trump and Russia.

It begins before the election.. and Trump asking Russia for help
it goes to.. Trump indicating Russia has some rights to Crimea

Trump refusal to accept Russian interference in our election
Trump obstructing anything that would prove it.
Trump siding with Putin over our own intelligence agencies.

Trump siding with Russian corruption of the Ukraine and withdrawing from the European allies agreement to support the Ukraine. Trump telling us he wants Europe to contribute more to Ukraine defense. He put Sondvold , the EU Ambassador into the Ukraine+- . And Sondvold, about European contributions never testified it was done, or anything he had done to achieve it, and it was NOT a part of his mission to the Ukraine. The EU Ambassador was NEVER instructed to get Europe to contribute more.

Trump allows Russia to renege on a short range nuclear missile deal.
What did Trump care.. those missiles aren't aimed at Us they are aimed at Eastern Europe.

Trump goings ballistic on Iran's blockage of the Straights of Hormuz and the capturing of foreign vessels Yet never a word when Russia blocked the Black Sea and captured Ukrainian vessels.

Trump not saying a word when Turkey bought an air missile defense system from Russia. That had Europe up in arms. Then within a month Trump turns his back on the Kurds and allows Turkey to enter Syria.. Then not a word when turkey and Russia make an agreement and divide up northern Syria.. Not a word when Russia takes over our military bases in Syria.

Not a word, when all this talk about the Ukriane... Has forces them to deal with Russian Ukrainians, have a meeting with Putin, and face the reality of accepting what Putin wants as Ukraine can't count on US support. the war in the Ukraine will be over..and Russia will have won
Trump not supporting ANY sanctions against Russia.. Trump feeding Russian influence in North Korea. and the middle east, and Eastern Europe.

Trump not doing anything to secure our elections for 2020. from Russian interference.

Trump not telling Us what happens in meeting with Putin and his ambassadors are about.. Not allowing anyone to know.. and forcing US to depend on Russia and it's media to find out.

Trump not getting involved as Russia goes into other countries and MURDERS it adversaries.

And you fools think Trump is loading up the courts to get policies through..He can't do it fast enough, not for policy,.. but for his own protection..these judges he is appointing are a sham.. these current court are shoving it up his ass.. if Trump gets his people in there it will take a civil war to get him out.

All this this is not interference, it not Lies, it's not emoluments, It's not the swamp

IT"S TREASON.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
12/13/2019 10:32 am

I have come to some conclusions..

First and foremost is that Trump has deceived himself and US to believe whatever is good for him is good for America..anyone who is against him is against America..
the idea of this impeachment is a hoax, any impeachment of Trump would be a hoax. It falls to his overall view... that is what his BAD for Him, is Bad for America.

He will continue doing what he's doing.
Election interference foreign or otherwise is good for him.. So it's good for America. He treats and thinks it all the same.

Many buy into it...Think it's okay.. he was duly elected. The elected official has a duty to do what's good for America., and Trump thinks he's doing that

Democrats think they can fight Trump on that basis this impeachment is subjective.. the idea about What's good for America? What is That?

So that brings me to the only reason for impeachment. TREASON.
Certain in the same vain we don't know if these thing about impeachment are treasonous..They are about What's Good For America. WE need to get off that discussion..

My idea of treason is different than most.. The action, the intent, the collusion, the illegality, the associations......Are all indicator but don't PROVE anything. The idea of reasons, explanations, and goals..are important.. but you can't believe it
Trump..Winning and results define Trump..not the game. The results always define the meaning
I may not know or agree with you folk about what is treason..
But can only deal with what I do know..What is the question.. defined by the results of Trumps actions.
I need an explanation..

Of how.. what is Good for America and good for Trump....GOOD FOR RUSSIA.

Those are FACTS.. I Call it Treason.. You can call it any thing you want..
JUST DON'T call it a LIE