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jiminycricket1 74M
5510 posts
12/12/2019 2:27 pm
Interference In Elections..


I think anybody would understand how abuse of power is a partisan issu8e..
The issues are all politics..Trump cannot abuse his power
but any Democrat that would do the same would be abusing their power.

Let's take election interference..
This democrat impeachment is and has been about foreign interference. It an absurd reason given the state of this country.

Election interference, of any sort. is not a political partisanship... it's the swamp.
it knows no partisanship.
It's partisanship can only be divided integrity and honor. Both parties do it
Republican have the idea about winning is that they need to infer with elections more than the Democrats do

Someone needs to say this to the Republican congressmen.

There is no way They can find fault with any election interference..
When it is part of their DNA.... that an elected official ,to represent those who elected him, not only has the responsibility but the Duty of election interference..
For Republicans the idea, is even taken to the legislature
Election interference can be defined as gerrymandering, voters restriction, voting right, voting elitism....It has been defined that way by the Republican party for my entire life.
It is all election interference.. the idea of our democracy for Republican has been buyer beware.. there can't be inference unless you buy it..., and if you buy it, it's not interference
Their idea of the court making determinations of questions here is all well and good. Democrats state the urgency.. It can't wait for court decisions.because the cat will be out the bag.
When the real urgency is not Trump's interference with elections but the Republican senate stacking the courts..

The president asked Ukraine for a favor.., that's it. That all it takes to abuse his power
Trump asked the Ukraine to investigate the the 2o and 2016 elections and the Bidens. That all it takes to interfere with election.. don't NEED quid pro quo, bribery, or extortion..

But the real issue is this..The Ukraine didn't do what Guillianni wanted. That Trump also wanted. The affront, which demanded the favor, was that Trump needed to ask the Ukraine twice.. The message is to never allow this President to have ask you twice.
The results of this. is not about the Ukraine.. It's about every other country on this planet...
It says never have Trump ask you for a favor.. Do Trump a favor without being asked,. If you want something, or need something from America, don't ask, just do trump a favor

The firing of Yovanovich was not to grease the skid.. as they are telling you.. It had nothing to do with that. Corruption in the Ukraine was all Russian sponsored, developed, in itself, to interfere in the Ukraine self determination.. It was never Ukraine corruption that Trump was fighting.. It was the hiding of Russia corruption...Yovanovich knew it. Yovanovich was going to fight Trump dismissal of Russian corruption. That's why she was gone. that why they had to smear he.

The facts are. the Bidens had nothing to do with Trump's actions. Republican were just using them as an excuse and to smear them.. If True..Then open their own investigation, Take the Bidens to court.. THE Bidens don't have Presidential immunity.
Republicans don't do it because they don't have a case.. They do it.. to give Trump a case. and an excuse.. and an interference

The Bidens the whistleblower, schiif, pelosi ,The carreer officials, and the FBi.. had nothing to do with Trumps action about the Ukraine.. They can not provide any factual evidence, or esculpatory to defend TRUMP It doesn't matter what you think of them Love them or hate them and doesn't change a thing

The minority leader keeps saying it's a driveby .. No nobody drivesby LIKE TRUMP
Nobody runs people over LIKE TRUMP... And nobody throws people under the bus LIKE TRUMP. I'd tell him...he needs to get his driveby straight.

Thee republicans for the most part aren't foreigners. they are misguided, and lacking integrity and honor.... when it comes to political issue.
Even so they ARE AMERICANS.. THEY believe in America, and their politics are AMERICA.
What isn't America is.... Treason.. That's the rub.. more later


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/12/2019 2:28 pm

More on treason coming...


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
12/13/2019 10:28 am

I have come to some conclusions..

First and foremost is that Trump has deceived himself and US to believe whatever is good for him is good for America..anyone who is against him is against America..
the idea of this impeachment is a hoax, any impeachment of Trump would be a hoax. It falls to his overall view... that is what his BAD for Him, is Bad for America.

He will continue doing what he's doing.
Election interference foreign or otherwise is good for him.. So it's good for America. He treats and thinks it all the same.

Many buy into it...Think it's okay.. he was duly elected. The elected official has a duty to do what's good for America., and Trump thinks he's doing that

Democrats think they can fight Trump on that basis this impeachment is subjective.. the idea about What's good for America? What is That?

So that brings me to the only reason for impeachment. TREASON.
Certain in the same vain we don't know if these thing about impeachment are treasonous..They are about What's Good For America. WE need to get off that discussion..

My idea of treason is different than most.. The action, the intent, the collusion, the illegality, the associations......Are all indicator but don't PROVE anything. The idea of reasons, explanations, and goals..are important.. but you can't believeit
Trump..Winning and results define Trump..not the game. The results always define the meaning
I may not know or agree with you folk about what is treason..
But can only deal with what I do know..What is the question.. defined by the results of Trumps actions.
I need an explanation..

Of how.. what is Good for America and good for Trump....GOOD FOR RUSSIA.

Those are FACTS.. I Call it Treason.. You can call it any thing you want..
JUST DON'T call it a LIE