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jiminycricket1 73M
5404 posts
12/3/2019 2:36 pm
Leaf... the How and the What


I talk about how you may have the best chance to understand it..but YOU Don't.. You continue to confuse the two when it's to your own benefit..

Kamala Harris dropped out today..

Bloomberg came in this past weeks.

Kamala dropped out because she didn't have enough

Bloomberg and Steyer came in because they have too much .
DO you think WHAT they stand for matters..... as much as How they can become President?

That it's not okay for HOW Big buys a Presidency..Unless WHAT kind of Presidency they are going to buy?

Shame on YOU.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
12/3/2019 2:51 pm

Today news centered around how is it possible.. That with the facts.. people will still support Trump.
Many say people don't care about facts..they have been brainwashed..
NO!
People don't care about what some other assume about the facts.. The type of criminality this president has shown.. Is not important to them..they see it, as no better or no worse than what others have done.. with or without proof with the facts.

They ask how can Democrats can make it different.. Make them see it...Democrats need to find the base commonality and Use it... Now, many Liberals don't see it.. Don't think it's true..about Trump supporters.. But it is..It's the only thing that matters
Trump supporters have a Kryptonite.... It's TREASON.. They can not avoid the FACTS that would lead to TREASON. From day one the only thing that matters for impeachment is Russia.
You want to get Trump supporters to change.. You don't have to prove Treason.. You just have to make it appear more probable than not. They will do the rest.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
12/3/2019 3:03 pm

They say today in the news.. It's bad the Democrats aren't going for All the evidence.. We need to know it all..All the bad guys.

Well, that's like a man goes into a bank, and on video, kills a teller.. And there is SOME evidence he was part of a group of men who planned a bank robbery, that was NOT completed.... so you can't convict the murderer.. until you get ALL the bank robbers.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
12/3/2019 3:22 pm

“However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.”
GEORGE WASHINGTON

You need to read it slow.. You need to understand what it means.. It's an amazing prophecy made in 1800 at the time of our beginning and the warning to our end... Not of Trump...But HOW our Democracy gets destroyed.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
12/3/2019 3:42 pm

Here's another interesting thought..
Virtually All National TV Programing has a News Center and puts on National News.

All except FOX... News on Fox Channels are all local..and Not subscribing To FOX NEWS CHANNEL
Other than Chris Wallace, The Fox Channel does not have National news or news programing.

You wonder why?

Well Fox Channel can not afford to put Fox News on their channel.
Other channels require their News to not adversely effect their "other programing.
Fox Channel understand Fox News will adversely effect their "other" programming.
Chris Wallace is the least offensive to the most people. Even then ..he's just a Sunday show.. And he is the LEAST OFFENSIVE, and best newsman of FOX NEWS.


LeafReport 73M

12/4/2019 2:54 am

Of course it's the what. What in the hell are you talking about? The Starbucks dude couldn't get anybody to listen. The money flows to the right message. This is why the Clinton's were so successful. Hillary whipped Trump by millions of votes. Romney couldn't beat Obama and Bernie Sanders isn't having trouble raising money either.

To begin with this campaign, with Trump, is of course unlike anything we've ever seen. A good chunk of normalcy has already vanished. It's hard to cope with Trump. Nothing would please me more than a campaign based solely on the issues. I've written before about how I approach the race. First, who would be best for the country NOW, then whose policy moves the nation forward best and finally who has the best shot of winning and being persuasive enough to actually govern. Sometimes its the same person in all three phases, sometimes you lose. Over my lifetime I've been pretty good at reading the tea leaves. Sometimes I've been happy sometimes not. Candidates with money don't bother me, wealth doesn't bother me. Greed does of course, and my biggest complaint rests with the policy makers that tip the balance to create greed. Both the democratic billionaires have a message that resonates with me. They aren't offering utopia and while that is lacking...we are quickly moving into phase 3 of campaigns...who can be the most persuasive. It's probably not Steyer, but that doesn't mean his message is wrong. It's more of a question of inspiration and ability to govern to his message. He hasn't yet made the sale. Ask any politician would you rather have money, or a following. They'll take a following every single time.


LeafReport 73M

12/4/2019 2:56 am

Loved your response about Chris Wallace as 'least' offensive. What a great way to put it.


LeafReport 73M

12/4/2019 3:39 am

I noticed early on that Harris didn't have a cohesive message. She appeared all over the map on several issues. She wasn't ready to run. She should have sat this one out and I'm not sure she'll get another chance. I doubt it. She would have been a serious player in an open election after Biden, Sanders and the Clinton's were no longer influential. I think her future rests only in the senate unless she runs for Governor. Harris ran because she thinks Trump will be gone. Otherwise she would have waited. She's not the only one who believed that. It was now or never for several of the candidates. That's always a calculation for someone. The Democrats need to win this campaign.... America needs this...desperately. We are already in deep, deep, deep trouble.

While its not over yet...Harris getting out before Super Tuesday where I thought she might do well in California is interesting. I've read where other analysts speculated that Harris might not have finished any higher than 4th in her state. She couldn't risk that, regardless of how her future unfolds. She will be the senior senator from California pretty soon. That's a powerful place to be. A 4th place finish wouldn't guarantee she'll be a senator at all.

I can't make an assessment of where the race is going until after impeachment runs its course. I'm one of the frozen voters...first things first.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
12/4/2019 4:11 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    Of course it's the what. What in the hell are you talking about? The Starbucks dude couldn't get anybody to listen. The money flows to the right message. This is why the Clinton's were so successful. Hillary whipped Trump by millions of votes. Romney couldn't beat Obama and Bernie Sanders isn't having trouble raising money either.

    To begin with this campaign, with Trump, is of course unlike anything we've ever seen. A good chunk of normalcy has already vanished. It's hard to cope with Trump. Nothing would please me more than a campaign based solely on the issues. I've written before about how I approach the race. First, who would be best for the country NOW, then whose policy moves the nation forward best and finally who has the best shot of winning and being persuasive enough to actually govern. Sometimes its the same person in all three phases, sometimes you lose. Over my lifetime I've been pretty good at reading the tea leaves. Sometimes I've been happy sometimes not. Candidates with money don't bother me, wealth doesn't bother me. Greed does of course, and my biggest complaint rests with the policy makers that tip the balance to create greed. Both the democratic billionaires have a message that resonates with me. They aren't offering utopia and while that is lacking...we are quickly moving into phase 3 of campaigns...who can be the most persuasive. It's probably not Steyer, but that doesn't mean his message is wrong. It's more of a question of inspiration and ability to govern to his message. He hasn't yet made the sale. Ask any politician would you rather have money, or a following. They'll take a following every single time.
Yes the view that money shouldn't matter.. Just the What.. But that's not the case.

The progressive right doesn't make that distinction.. Elizabeth Warren doesn't make that distinction.
Why is it the only political Ads I see Now, are for Bloomberg and Steyer? is it because of their message? I wrote this specifically to you.. About your blog about Bloomberg's ads and messaging.. That you say was so good.
And failed to realize .. you didn't see or hear the messaging. You saw and heard the MONEY

The idea of Russian interference for a Trump campaign.. Wasn't about the messaging.. the messaging was the same that Trump was doing..
In fact Trump was still doing it.. not the Russians, you're stupid if you believe different. Russia wasn't doing it.. they were just PAYING for it. The Russian type interference with the election for Trump, I could not differentiate between Russia and Trump.. So why was it BAD?
It was BAD because of "BIG MONEY.. And Campaign Finance rules. And more important as in any shady big money deal.. The question that is asked, and in this case answered, is what was the Quid Pro Quo?
How did Russia/Trump work out for a "following"?
Money talks when nobody is listening to something else.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
12/4/2019 5:20 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    I noticed early on that Harris didn't have a cohesive message. She appeared all over the map on several issues. She wasn't ready to run. She should have sat this one out and I'm not sure she'll get another chance. I doubt it. She would have been a serious player in an open election after Biden, Sanders and the Clinton's were no longer influential. I think her future rests only in the senate unless she runs for Governor. Harris ran because she thinks Trump will be gone. Otherwise she would have waited. She's not the only one who believed that. It was now or never for several of the candidates. That's always a calculation for someone. The Democrats need to win this campaign.... America needs this...desperately. We are already in deep, deep, deep trouble.

    While its not over yet...Harris getting out before Super Tuesday where I thought she might do well in California is interesting. I've read where other analysts speculated that Harris might not have finished any higher than 4th in her state. She couldn't risk that, regardless of how her future unfolds. She will be the senior senator from California pretty soon. That's a powerful place to be. A 4th place finish wouldn't guarantee she'll be a senator at all.

    I can't make an assessment of where the race is going until after impeachment runs its course. I'm one of the frozen voters...first things first.
well I can.. they are two separate issues

I know you think I support Amy Klobuchar.. but I don't.. I actually support Mayor Pete..
But I try to be pragmatic, as to not how i see it . but how others see it.

There are six candidate for the next debate..The negatives

Joe Biden... too old, too stumbling, and too bumbling
Bernie Sander.. too old, to far left, too sick
Elizabeth Warren. too far left. too uncompromising. too political, and a women
Tom Steyer.. Too Rich..too fixated....Too unbelievable
Mayor Pete... Too Gay
Amy Klobuchar.. A woman

The news about Kamala... was fraught with the idea That there are now no people of color, black women.. For the most predominant Democrat voters in the country black women to relate to.. Well, join the fricken club.. I can't relate to any of those people up there either. If that was the criteria.. I wouldn't vote either..
Except for maybe Joe Biden.. because I'm too old, too stumbling, and too bumbling.. TOO

You see that is the problem...With voting in this country..
When the criteria involves,, relate-ablity.. Like Gender, Race, Religion, Sexual orientation..And MONEY

But here's the rub.. of all those things the MOST NON-RELATABLE is sexual Orientation.. Although I support what Mayor Pete stand for.. It's perfectly clear That what transcends the politics is the relate-ability.

And what you also don't get is Trump.. You think his supporters agree...They don't agree.. they don't think that way.. .. they have been manipulated to somehow believe they relate to TRUMP. That Trump is one of Them..
My God, it's the greatest con EVER.
Nobody can relate to Trump on their own accord.. nobody.. NEVER, EVER.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
12/4/2019 6:15 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    Loved your response about Chris Wallace as 'least' offensive. What a great way to put it.
Fox news is amazing.. when a factual story breaks, and other news channel give both the facts and their opinion of what it means.. I go to Fox news to see what they are going to say..
It' amazing.. That they purposely avoid the facts. give an opinion about it.. Knowing they do so to a captive audience. Who don;'t even want to know what the facts are. Don't bother to find out what they are.
I don't want to dispute their OPINIONS.. I dispute their hiding the facts. The people they program to, must not have any other outlets...Must not be able to read.
but you see, that's their plan, to have a captivated audience...To run the ZOO and make sure that no one, but them,. get to feed the animals.

It amazes and dishearten me. that they are NEVER caught by their audience. Not about everything...but it only just needs one thing..In that regards it's even more amazing their survival, than it is TRUMP'S. If your going to ride that horse.. you should hear it from the horse's mouth.. Not a horse's ass.