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jiminycricket1 74M
5510 posts
10/30/2019 7:30 am
What do We talk about.. What is the Subject?


WE talk about Trump. Liberals and Conservatives, The 2029 elections, Truth and Lies, people in politics, people on this site and impeachment.

We know what the subject is.. when we tal.

How about Trump? Do we know what the subject is.. when Trump talks..

The primary focus of the impeachment has been the Ukraine.. And the conversations, between Trump, Trump associates and the Ukraine..The Whistleblower told Us , something we didn't know. the subject of those discussions. Once the Subject was revealed and Not disputed.. The evidence no longer matters ..It was the subject of the conversation that was being hidden from US, not the evidence. Knowing precisely what was said in regards to the SUBJECT, doesn't matter. We are spinning our wheels

Connecting the dots with Trump is pretty easy.. if you know what the dots are..

So the question becomes ..Do WE have the RIGHT to know the SUBJECT of Trump discussions? Never before in our history has a President taken away our RIGHT to know.

In looking bac. There have numerous times this President has taken away our RIGHT know, not the specifics, but the SUBJECT.. How many times has THIS president either hidden or Lied about the subject matter of his discussions? I'm sure it happens all the time. It appears be the way he operates. Depending on the final results of the discussion, depends on, whether or not, that's what the discussion was about.

I have grave concerns about that..THAT I KNOW OF....
Trump's discussions with Putin, and Trump discussions with Erdogan... We don't even know what those discussion were about.

Now I just have guess... I imagine the discussions with Putin.. revolved entirely around Putin position on the Ukraine, NATO, Syria, The entire Middle East, Election interference, Putin's support for Trump, Trump Towers Moscow, and laundering, and other "Kropromat" They had so many things that PUT|IN needed get straight with Trump and discuss.. that we had no business knowing about..

The discussion with Erodogan is much easier guess. I'm pretty sure it was entirely do with the KURDS...What is the US going do with the Kurds NOW? Is the US willing support the Kurds in a greater conflict.? Erodogan's position... That the Kurds in defeating ISIS would assume the ISIS position.. Take the territory, taken, for their own.. Take the oil revenue to support themselves and defend themsleves in their search for autonomy. Use the american military supplies and installation against their "other" enemies That the Kurds were a bigger threat than Isis.
Was America willing to support the Kurds in another 20 year war? Erodogan scared the beegeebees out of Trump... but Trump sees an opportunity in everything.. So he made a deal...so it all made sense, but the kicker is.. WE don't know what Trump got out of the "deal"....
EXCEPT RUSSIA benefited.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/30/2019 8:18 am

I have said... don't listen to what Trump says... judge his meaning by the results.

We are seeing the results with the Putin discussions.. The Ukraine..And what's going on, has a greater impact than we know.. it is not just about US.. It's about Russia too.
Between Trump and Russia, Zelensky, was put between a rock and hard place..Damn if he did and damned if he didn't.. This was about "leverage" and "Krompromat" on Zelensky... Biden was just."the icing"...... Trump didn't need Zelensky to investigate Biden..he just Needed Zelensky to Say it....Say "Uncle"...and give in.
Trump and Russia, didn't need that kind of "leverage" on Biden..something that was untrue.. but NEEDED that kind of leverage On Zelensky.

I laugh at our stupidity when we infer the wrong things about what Trump does.
Bombing our own installations and sending in more troops to secure the oilfields...Where are our "Intelligence Agencies"? How do they not know what's going on.

Bombing our installations and securing the oilfields was to keep those thing away from the Kurds.. They say... the oil fields are being protected by the Kurds.. that the Kurds get the benefits of the oil revenue.
Which, in part, is probably true, just to keep them at bay. but the real issue is not the small benefit the Kurds get.. but CONTROLLING that revenue. It's is imperative to Trump, Turkey Syria, Iran and RUSSIA.. That the Kurds DO NOT CONTROL that revenue. It's is imperative to Trump, Turkey, Syria, Iran and Russia that the Kurds DO NOT CONTROL our military installations.

You believe Trump when he says he's securing the oilfield fields.. from the
non-existent threat of ISIS.. he can't have it both ways? Who is Trump securing the oil fields from?

Turkey and ISIS.. Again, we miss the boat.. They may not be friends.. but they aren't enemies. Baghadadi.. Was at the Turkish border? why was he THERE? and not somewhere else. Waht deal does ISIS have with Turkey?
In Turkey's invasion of Syria and the removal of Kurds.. They used "militia" Who the f*ck do you think those people were?
Ethnic cleansing?.. Well Turkey can't do it.....Syria can't do it, Iran can't do it. Russia can't do it.. Only ISIS can do it.. ISIS in their defeat have the best reason..

So what's going to happen? Why were WE used to eliminate Baghadadi? eliminated? ...It may not matter here that Trump wants to take all the credit..But let me assure you.. although there is a play up of the Kurds involvement here.. the Kurds are stuck between a rock and a hard place.. because they want to play it down in the Middle East.

Anyway here's the plan.. the reformation of ISIS under a different name, and leadership... With it's primary purpose to "ethnic cleanse" the KURDS..
And then all all deals off.. and we come back to square one.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/30/2019 9:30 am

So what should we do?

First get rid of Trump.. he treasonous.

The Kurds and Israel are OUR only true Ally in the Middle East,, the rest of those assholes are just bullshit.. All is just "Quid Pro Quo".......Trump say with the Ukraine there was no quid pro quo... when how can that be?.. When Trump ONLY knows ...quid pro quo.... if Trump is invovled in ANYTHING .. It's Quid Pro Quo

Second give full support to the Kurds.. Our interest are their interests They are no different than Israel.

Kick Turkey out of Syria.
Give the Kurds our military installations. give them the oil fields, supply them any arms they need, and give them protected borders. They have more than 11,000 reasons.. They have earned it.

Give the Kurds the territory they have taken from ISIS. Threaten anybody, who has a problem with. it
Use the greatest military might in the world to get those other SOB's to bend to our will.. Do it NOW.....before we have to do it later..when it will be worse.

You people just don't get it..It's 1776. America is in the Middle East. The Kurds are Americans.. And this is their Revolutionary war. Who are we to deny them?.
It's better to be the "bad" guy with good intentions, than to be the "good" guy with 'bad" results.

You don't see it...For the last 70 years we have been fighting "losing battles"..
It's time we we win one.... For the right reasons. This opportunity comes around once in our lifetime......To be on the RIGHT side instead of OUR side. Are we going to allow this kind of "ethnic cleansing" In regards to different kinds of MUSLIMS? The ONLY Muslims on this planet, who as a country, would support US...
WTF happened to US?


Fossil_Fetcher 76M
9752 posts
10/30/2019 9:33 am

You don't believe anyone is actually going to read this lengthy babble fest, do you?

Non ego te hic placere


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/30/2019 9:40 am

I know there are other Muslims, in other countries that would prefer not to have a Muslim STATE.... but they know... no other way.
You want to WIN.. It's time we show Them... There can be another way.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/30/2019 9:48 am

    Quoting Fossil_Fetcher:
    You don't believe anyone is actually going to read this lengthy babble fest, do you?
Sadly I don't.. but who's to know... YOU.. who doesn't know anything?

But I would like to know who's read it.. not if they agree or not.. just if they read it,


So let me ask anyone who has.. to leave a comment, an emoji, or a question mark.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/30/2019 10:07 am

    Quoting Fossil_Fetcher:
    You don't believe anyone is actually going to read this lengthy babble fest, do you?
So my question is...... Did you read it?
Or was it psycho-babble..before it was even psycho-babble?
Are you in the habit of just leaving responses.. without reading the blog?

Then WTF do you think... cares about what you think?


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
10/30/2019 10:51 am

I read it......I read everything you write.....several times.....I don't always understand it.........I do think that Trump is literally insane......empty and incapable of rational thought. Also, it boggles my mind that there are so many Americans that can't see his profound Psychological unfitness.

I saw a clip of Trump and Melania in front of the White House handing out Halloween candy. They had a simple task. They were handed baskets of full-sized candy-bars and stand there and hand out the candy to the dressed up children of staff as they approached them with their bags. It went fine for a while, as the children held out their open bags for the candy. Then there came along a child in an inflatable minion costume. He seemed to have some trouble
seeing, but he stopped in front of the Trumps. Trump, instead of putting the candy in his bag, placed it on his inflated head, which would be impossible for him to detect, then Melania did the same. The chocolate bars immediately fell off, but Donald and Melania just ignored it and handed candy to the next kid.....

A simple, insignificant thing, but so telling......


hobsonschoice 75F
3600 posts
10/30/2019 11:11 am


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/30/2019 11:31 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I read it......I read everything you write.....several times.....I don't always understand it.........I do think that Trump is literally insane......empty and incapable of rational thought. Also, it boggles my mind that there are so many Americans that can't see his profound Psychological unfitness.

    I saw a clip of Trump and Melania in front of the White House handing out Halloween candy. They had a simple task. They were handed baskets of full-sized candy-bars and stand there and hand out the candy to the dressed up children of staff as they approached them with their bags. It went fine for a while, as the children held out their open bags for the candy. Then there came along a child in an inflatable minion costume. He seemed to have some trouble
    seeing, but he stopped in front of the Trumps. Trump, instead of putting the candy in his bag, placed it on his inflated head, which would be impossible for him to detect, then Melania did the same. The chocolate bars immediately fell off, but Donald and Melania just ignored it and handed candy to the next kid.....

    A simple, insignificant thing, but so telling......
I wish I was a better communicator...It's why I like poetry so much.. It not about communication..it is what it is.. I know I try too hard, it makes it wordy, somewhat jumbled.. And i have a hard time.. reading it....like for someone who is reading it for the first time.. I wish I knew, how to do that...

I settle for my thoughts are there.... even if it's not communicated very well.

It does take time, and thought to figure it out..
I appreciate it.... that you do it

.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/30/2019 11:52 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I read it......I read everything you write.....several times.....I don't always understand it.........I do think that Trump is literally insane......empty and incapable of rational thought. Also, it boggles my mind that there are so many Americans that can't see his profound Psychological unfitness.

    I saw a clip of Trump and Melania in front of the White House handing out Halloween candy. They had a simple task. They were handed baskets of full-sized candy-bars and stand there and hand out the candy to the dressed up children of staff as they approached them with their bags. It went fine for a while, as the children held out their open bags for the candy. Then there came along a child in an inflatable minion costume. He seemed to have some trouble
    seeing, but he stopped in front of the Trumps. Trump, instead of putting the candy in his bag, placed it on his inflated head, which would be impossible for him to detect, then Melania did the same. The chocolate bars immediately fell off, but Donald and Melania just ignored it and handed candy to the next kid.....

    A simple, insignificant thing, but so telling......
I know with Trump we are inundated with the "big stories" ..

But i fault the media...for not revealing the impact of the smaller stories

Your story.. should be front page..
The Lowering of the interest rates today.. and it's reasoning, it's repercussion, it's long term effect, and the presidential responsibility, should also be front page news.
This week , The congressional investigations into Boeing and the fault design that has caused two plane crashes and over 300 deaths.. Should have been front page news.. The effect The Trump administration had on the removal of regulations. that affected the oversight and budget of the FAA, to prevent these things.
I find the lack of news about whats happening to the Kurds in Syria and Iraq, from the Kurds point of view to be neglectful of the media. I see that any future results from Trump dealing with Turkey.. to also be second page news with regards to the Kurds.

This impeachment is not about ONE thing... It's about everything.

Who needs a witch hunt... when the person is riding a broomstick?


TxJW_2 81M

10/30/2019 1:50 pm

Ignore all detractors and the little people.
Party On!


Fossil_Fetcher 76M
9752 posts
10/30/2019 4:20 pm

Told ya. Your usual admirers.

Non ego te hic placere


TxJW_2 81M

10/30/2019 4:49 pm

How funny. LOL
A person who is here complaining about who is here. LOLOL
Party On!


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
10/30/2019 7:55 pm

    Quoting TxJW_2:
    How funny. LOL
    A person who is here complaining about who is here. LOLOL
    Party On!
Yes, that person is a busy little vacuum.


lilium6 74F
4498 posts
10/30/2019 8:31 pm

Although I rarely comment, I regularly read your blogs/posts (some I find difficult to understand). I usually don't know how to respond/what to say but instinctively (?) am in accord with what I sense to be your intent, i.e. ferreting out truths/facts; that your courage, integrity and keen intellect sees you hitting the mark not too infrequently. Not unlike others, I have much difficulty coherently communicating my thoughts yet I think we can 'know' when something is true/real/'ridgy-didge'.


TxJW_2 81M

10/30/2019 11:17 pm

I must google Einstein. I have heard he had trouble conversing with ordinary people.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/31/2019 7:46 am

    Quoting Fossil_Fetcher:
    You don't believe anyone is actually going to read this lengthy babble fest, do you?
well, in one day i got four people who read it....I would have settled for one..

So, one is enough for me... My purpose is to get people to think.. If a person reads it.. they HAVE to think about it..
Not a single person who has read this agrees with it all.. Not a single person who has reads this, will regurgitate it as fact.

But each has informed me .. I have served my PURPOSE.

Let me ask you... What's your purpose? For your response.. In fact what's your purpose for anything you say.


hobsonschoice 75F
3600 posts
11/1/2019 1:50 pm


Rocketship 79F
18566 posts
11/1/2019 8:23 pm


LeafReport 73M

11/2/2019 2:00 am

Knowing what the dots are is the central question here that has frustrated me for so long. The frustration for me is two-fold. First, there are far too many dots for a relatively sane and progressive society to manage. It created a fog of ugly chaos, like the toxic smog of 1970's big cities making it impossible to gasp for fresh air. The second part of the question, using the same example of the smog, is the process of coping with it by that same sane society. Once in awhile a few days of wind, something nobody can manufacture, comes along and cleans it up, providing a fresh new starting line for society's marathon race to the finish. But then the chaos returns in the form of fatigue as the smog descends once again and the finish line vanishes from sight until a second wind materializes. By this time its too much for the masses and "wait till next year' becomes the rallying cry.

Trump has left America exhausted. It took a long sustained effort to rid society of unmanageable smog. We had to wait it out and adapt, and constantly fight the scourge of those trying so hard to bring back the chaos of it. Political global warming is an enormous problem without a strategy to combat it with a known result eating away our freedom like Pacman running on solar power.