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jiminycricket1 68M
4063 posts
1/11/2019 6:00 am
The Shutdown and the Wall.. "Get over it"


A recent poll says that 32% polled... think Democrats are responsible for the Shutdown..
Never has a poll identified "Trump's base" as well as this poll. It definitely indicates Trump's bottom line....of people who are capable of believing LIES.. no matter the evidence.

They also say "Guns don't kill people. People kill people".... But for those 32%... there is an exception......If Trump pulls the trigger on the Shutdown

The WALL....Republican need to "get over it"..

Instructions..on how to "get over it"

You get yourself up.... by using "Chaos is a Ladder"
Get yourself off it...by "Pissing up a Rope"


jiminycricket1 68M
10266 posts
1/11/2019 6:03 am

I just Find it hard to believe.....that 32% of this country... Can't see the TREES or the FOREST


LeafReport 68M
1157 posts
1/11/2019 6:42 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    I just Find it hard to believe.....that 32% of this country... Can't see the TREES or the FOREST
I'm with you here on that. Think of yourself crossing a buy 3 lane street at the crosswalk and all three lanes had approaching cars but were still a ways from the light. You have 30 seconds to cross. Which lane is the 32 percent using? Are you running, or walking, or praying?


bijou649 69F
293 posts
1/11/2019 6:55 am

All of a sudden, Trump and the Repubs are getting together and lying about the urgent security need for this Wall. But if a Wall was totally free and wouldn't cost a penny, everyone must agree that there's nothing wrong with having a Wall. But since Trump is lying about the urgent need for a Wall, the Democrats are totally against it and that has to be because Trump is demanding it.

Meanwhile all those federal employees without a paycheck are being told to take up dog walking and have a garage sale. All because of Trump's lies.


jiminycricket1 68M
10266 posts
1/11/2019 8:10 am

    Quoting bijou649:
    All of a sudden, Trump and the Repubs are getting together and lying about the urgent security need for this Wall. But if a Wall was totally free and wouldn't cost a penny, everyone must agree that there's nothing wrong with having a Wall. But since Trump is lying about the urgent need for a Wall, the Democrats are totally against it and that has to be because Trump is demanding it.

    Meanwhile all those federal employees without a paycheck are being told to take up dog walking and have a garage sale. All because of Trump's lies.
When you can't make sense of something.. It must be senseless.....
When something is senseless. you can't explain it... by making sense
Senseless was not created by logic.....so it cannot be explained by logic.... and cannot be change with logic....
Although Lies can be explained by the truth...The Truth cannot be explained by the lies.


bijou649 69F
293 posts
1/11/2019 11:25 am

Jiminy, what do you think about this idea.....is it possible that this whole Wall thing to be happening right at this particular moment, and of course the government shutdown, is just Trump's sneaky way of trying to distract people's attention from the Khashoggi's murder, Mueller's investigation, Russian collusion, the Manafort and Michael Cohen situations?? Why is he focusing on the Wall situation now?


jiminycricket1 68M
10266 posts
1/11/2019 2:29 pm

Don't you see his base made this happen.....and I think it shows how much at the end of rope he is.. this issue is not a distraction.. It's the prelude to a kiss off

All the reasons you mentioned are valid... His decision was not in regards to avoiding those loses... But finding something he could win...Trump thought he would win this.
If he win this.. then winning those other things becomes easier. His base becomes more in line...

The way Trumps rolls is to work on things he can win....The success those things mean in terms of the country's benefits doesn't matter Just the WIN matters.

For example deregulation and tax cuts.. are not about what's best.. but about winning. It's an automatic short term, economic win... Each moment is about the win.....each loss is never a loss... but a new moment and new criteria about how to go about getting a win. Trump will keep going with this. keep changing it.. until he can declare himself a winner.
He will attack those "Other" issues the same way.. until he comes to the end of the rope... and is told you can't change it... YOU ARE A LOSER.. This shutdown may be it.
When Coulter, Limbaugh and Hannity says he can't make a deal, to avoid a shutdown, and give in.. He becomes.. what he can't afford to allow to happen..become a loser in the eyes of his base..
What that means about his base..... His base still talks the game... BUT no longer trusts him, no longer accepts and give him maneuverability to get it done his way They cuts off his legs... Now it's either do it.. or you're done.
Anyone with a brain.. could tell........ it's the ONLY way for his base to throw him under the bus.
Democrat don't see.it....and won't be satisfied unless they get to turn the knife.... his base has stuck in his back.

They realized they wanted an autocrat... but they wanted THEIR autocrat.. all those "other issues" only tells them... Trump..... is not THEIR autocrat.... Something or someone else is pulling the strings

Trump thinks he can walk on water... his base has allowed him to think that..but this is the time... His base says... "prove it or drown". It was the only way this was going to go DOWN. The base ain't drowning.... Trump is drowning.. the irony is.
Lindsey Graham.. ain't throwing him a life preserver..... he's making him wear concrete shoes in the gulf of Mexico......Those other yahoo's don't know how to do it..they still think this whole thing is real..


Lisztomania 69M
10420 posts
1/11/2019 3:59 pm

JC, you want to make this all about Trump, but I think it is equally about Pelosi. She is every bit as responsible for the shutdown as Trump. The old overly made-up political hack is trying to prove that she can be just as much of a jerk as A O-C and the other young Turks. Her vanity is a large part of this shutdown. Trump has been begging heard to make some kind of compromise and she won't. So at this point the shutdown is on her.


Lisztomania 69M
10420 posts
1/11/2019 4:15 pm

    Quoting bijou649:
    Jiminy, what do you think about this idea.....is it possible that this whole Wall thing to be happening right at this particular moment, and of course the government shutdown, is just Trump's sneaky way of trying to distract people's attention from the Khashoggi's murder, Mueller's investigation, Russian collusion, the Manafort and Michael Cohen situations?? Why is he focusing on the Wall situation now?
Bijou, you have forgotten that the Wall, or some sort of physical barrier, was a central promise of his campaign, a promise which he has reaffirmed at EVERY rally since. Nobody cares about Khashoggi (why should we? he is not a US citizen), and Mueller and collusion are simply a lefty wet dream.

It's not "diversion" when a president pursues a central goal of his administration.


jiminycricket1 68M
10266 posts
1/11/2019 9:29 pm

    Quoting Lisztomania:
    JC, you want to make this all about Trump, but I think it is equally about Pelosi. She is every bit as responsible for the shutdown as Trump. The old overly made-up political hack is trying to prove that she can be just as much of a jerk as A O-C and the other young Turks. Her vanity is a large part of this shutdown. Trump has been begging heard to make some kind of compromise and she won't. So at this point the shutdown is on her.
Everything is ABOUT TRUMP.........EVERYTHING.

I guarantee you next month... you will be whistling a different tune..

You get to point and wonder when it going to be over....How long it's going to take....You think will people find out what you already think you know...... And then there it is..the waits over..

Trump won't make it past this summer...I guarantee it.. Democrats are going to sit back and laugh.. when the Republicans hang him..


jiminycricket1 68M
10266 posts
1/12/2019 8:45 am

    Quoting Lisztomania:
    JC, you want to make this all about Trump, but I think it is equally about Pelosi. She is every bit as responsible for the shutdown as Trump. The old overly made-up political hack is trying to prove that she can be just as much of a jerk as A O-C and the other young Turks. Her vanity is a large part of this shutdown. Trump has been begging heard to make some kind of compromise and she won't. So at this point the shutdown is on her.
What's going to be funny.. is if Pence goes down with him...

PELOSI BECOMES PRESIDENT

Talk about Puckering up assholes?