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Lies that don't matter I just love being right...two and a half year. of a journey of argument.. and finally Trump said it..... The lies he told don't matter.. the truth everyone says doesn't matter..Because... Although Cohen is a Wimp, A Coward, A Rat and a Liar ... Trumps exact words...."Even if he's was right, it doesn't matter" So then even if collusion, Conspiracy and obstruction are true about Trump....Does it matter? And even you think it doesn't.. does it matter Trump Lied about it?. Now we can have the real argument... Does the truth matter? Are their consequence for telling Lies....even if you think the lies.."don't matter" Then when can LIES ever matter.. And if we are to have that argument....someone needs to explain to me. When Do LIES matter? And philosophically it is the polar opposite of what i believe...I believe you can only tell a lie.. you can't hear a lie...the meaning of the truth is only in the words someone speaks .. NOT in the words someone hears Trump would have you believe... He can't tell a lie.. You can only hear a LIE |
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So it is.. with my arguments here....and the fact... to Lie.. I always have to know I am lying.. Being mistaken, without purpose... is not a lie So let me ask those that disagree with me..... Am I telling a lie.......Or are you hearing a lie?
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So do I think some people here Lie?..... Just as I think Trump Lies absolutely..... Do i think it.. because of just the words spoken.. NO NEVER Do I think it.. because i don't believe the words they speak...No NEVER To think it.. I have to understand the words they speak..Understand they are most likely mistaken.. and finally have some understanding of the PURPOSE that they choose to be mistaken... For them to be a liar.....I MUST conclude.. I understand what they are saying and why they are they saying it. ....And even if they can't admit it....They are lying to me, or lying to themselves... Lying to me.....has to be because of me. I have to be the focus of their lie for them to Lie TO ME. Some people don't tell the truth to me, because they like me, or because they want to hurt me.. I don't even consider that lying to me. To lie to me.. You must want me to ACT in certain manner because of the lie. To be a lie it MUST have a purpose..that the truth will not accomplish. For some people like Trump.. HE can NEVER lie to me.. but because of the volume of their untruths they are ALWAYS lying to them self or to others.. but not ME. So Trump CAN"T LIE to me....But Trump is a LIAR.
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don't sweat it.. I learned a long time ago.. I can't play an eight track tape.. on a one track player. So... I just can't hear you... maybe I could put it on a CD for you.... A CD....one you could hear that's for the Certified Dumb
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Go Jimmy, your on a ROLL.................. speaking of rolls............here's one I always used for bull slingers you bullshit the baker you get a bun you bullshit me you get None plain an simple and to the point..
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My husband, years ago, used to say that his Mother never lied......... She just told the truth the way she thought it should go. 
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12/1/2018 5:43 pm |
I may have touched on this subject before with you. Truth matters...a lot frankly. This is why I see Fox News as pure propaganda, propaganda advanced by an obvious racist in Tucker Carlson, an infamous liar in Sean Hannity and Laura Ingram represents the catch all of racism and lies. But more to the point the truth matters. But willing ignorance is something today that I find more troublesome than blatant lying. These are liars in another dimension. Mrs. Joe, Biglocks and Maisie are all willingly ignorant and they use the strategy to avoid being exposed as liars. It doesn't work of course because many are not ignorant and they recognize lies when they hear them. Republican senator Orin Hatch spoke about this king of lying in public testimony. He called it lying by omission. This is another way that the conservative nuts here choose to lie. It's a sad reality when Fox resorts to this...sanctioned lying by corporate executives. Frankly its just a fraud at this point. I found amusement in what Rocket just said about her husband's characterization of his mother's point of view. I'll remember that. LOL Trump's lying is in a category all to itself. It encompasses all of the above but there are three notable characteristics that are both concerning, and at the same time frankly harmless in their absurdity...were it not for the morally bankrupt of 'willing ignorance' that plagues many Trump supporters. The three characteristics...a) politically motivated diversionary lies b) politically motivated personal lies designed to marginalize those that have the potential to thwart a Trump goal c) sinister intents...driven I believe by mental illness, fear of inadequacy or failure. These are dangerous lies with unknown consequences and we saw this materialize through the border related baby stealing.
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I may have touched on this subject before with you. Truth matters...a lot frankly. This is why I see Fox News as pure propaganda, propaganda advanced by an obvious racist in Tucker Carlson, an infamous liar in Sean Hannity and Laura Ingram represents the catch all of racism and lies. But more to the point the truth matters. But willing ignorance is something today that I find more troublesome than blatant lying. These are liars in another dimension. Mrs. Joe, Biglocks and Maisie are all willingly ignorant and they use the strategy to avoid being exposed as liars. It doesn't work of course because many are not ignorant and they recognize lies when they hear them. Republican senator Orin Hatch spoke about this king of lying in public testimony. He called it lying by omission. This is another way that the conservative nuts here choose to lie. It's a sad reality when Fox resorts to this...sanctioned lying by corporate executives. Frankly its just a fraud at this point. I found amusement in what Rocket just said about her husband's characterization of his mother's point of view. I'll remember that. LOL Trump's lying is in a category all to itself. It encompasses all of the above but there are three notable characteristics that are both concerning, and at the same time frankly harmless in their absurdity...were it not for the morally bankrupt of 'willing ignorance' that plagues many Trump supporters. The three characteristics...a) politically motivated diversionary lies b) politically motivated personal lies designed to marginalize those that have the potential to thwart a Trump goal c) sinister intents...driven I believe by mental illness, fear of inadequacy or failure. These are dangerous lies with unknown consequences and we saw this materialize through the border related baby stealing. Maybe that's too hard to understand... let me give an example.....of what you and I do... We hear almost all comedians doing Trump bits..Are those bits Truth or Lies? For most people they know it's a lie... but it's funny because of the truth of it. So we see the Lie, but find the Truth, so it's funny.. The truth of it is the PURPOSE of the Lie...... Trump supporters..see it all as a Lie Trump's Lies..., although for them "funny" has nothing to do with it..Their truth does. Most Trump supporters do the same thing.. They recognize the LIE... but change the Truth of it.. AS The truth of it.... is the PURPOSE of the Lie.
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12/2/2018 6:43 am |
For many Trump supporters.. It's not..not recognizing the LIE....but changing the truth. Maybe that's too hard to understand... let me give an example.....of what you and I do... We hear almost all comedians doing Trump bits..Are those bits Truth or Lies? For most people they know it's a lie... but it's funny because of the truth of it. So we see the Lie, but find the Truth, so it's funny.. The truth of it is the PURPOSE of the Lie...... Trump supporters..see it all as a Lie Trump's Lies..., although for them "funny" has nothing to do with it..Their truth does. Most Trump supporters do the same thing.. They recognize the LIE... but change the Truth of it.. AS The truth of it.... is the PURPOSE of the Lie.
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