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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
11/24/2018 2:54 pm
Neo-Liberalism?


Quoting MySeek2day have taken a break from this site for a while, All the bashing has nothing to do with "real politics." There is a wide world out there. My focus is Europe. Most people reacted with relief when the democrats (Hillary) lost the elections.
Trump is not a laughing stock over there as some people here try to make believe and the main stream media, too. The people are waking up and notice the danger and damage imposed by "neoliberalism."


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I would think...just as a normal rational thought of people think more about their problems than someone else's.... That "most" people in Europe wouldn't give a shit.
About Trump or Hillary....funny how that works, because, like the most of US..Who didn't give a shit then..give a shit now.

The outrage generated by the LIe and the outrage generated by the Truth. becomes a confused issue about separating people from political agendas..

Putting Hillary together with Neo-Liberalism is mind-boggling.. in Hillary's existence there was no such thing. , Between the fact there was no need for Neo-liberalism.. and it was hard for me to even comprehend Hillary was liberal at heart, instead of just in words. What a JOKE!.. to even think... HILLARY.....Could be a poster for Liberalism.

People understand when they are losing, but rarely understand when they are winning. There certainly are Neo Nazis, Neo-Fascists, and Neo-Nationalists. They have NOT been created out of defeat, but by victory.
First the victory against Communism, second the victory against Socialism, and now ongoing victories against liberalism, But these kinds of victories will not stop there..The next victory will be attempted over Democracy..
It maybe hard to understand but these are all.."in-line" political agendas.munism, Socialism, Liberalism and Democracy...Defeat of each follows the line
It doesn't work backwards.. Neo-liberalism has no idea of turning communists and socialists defeats into victories...Defining Neo-Liberalism would be to define it as Liberalism with it's back against the wall........and that wall is Democracy.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/24/2018 3:15 pm

I know most here don't have a clue about it..
I know the Right here, will refuse to acknowledge it.

The Right's attack on Liberalism is an attack on Democracy.. Liberalism is a Democratic Right. Simply by Definition. Liberalism is an intricate part.. P A R T.. of Democracy.

There is Neo -conservatism. That looks a lot like Nationalist Fascism

The Liberal attack on fascism is NOT an attack on Democracy... Fascism is NOT a Democratic Right...Fascism itself is anti-Democracy. It's attack on the Constitution is just beginning...Fascism can not exist with our current Constitution.. It will be entirely changed... Or We the People.. will have to buy into the biggest LIE in History.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
11/24/2018 5:42 pm

The insanity of the far Right in the US is illustrated by a law proposed by "Pro Life" ?Republican faction that would classify a Human embryo at any stage of development as a person in the same sense as a post-born, breathing Human.......and that women who have an abortion and the doctor who performs it would be liable to life imprisonment or the death penalty.........

Wanna talk about what Europeans and Canadians think about that? About Pro Lifers wanting to kill mothers.......?????.....Along with the most of the Pro-Lifers also being Pro Gun........That is some barking-mad shit right there.


WellKnownAuthor 61M
722 posts
11/24/2018 7:43 pm

JIMMY YOUR COMMENTS UPON THIS UP AND COMING DOG VERSE CAT FIGHT WOULD BE WELCOMED.

yOU ARE OBJECTIVE AND THUS GREAT VALUE IS ATTACHED TO YOUR VIEWS.

I AM NOT INTO POLITICS AT ALL..... NO CLEAR CUT DEFINITIVE WINNERS WITH ONLY BACK AND FORTH VIEWS AND OPINIONS.

IN FACE I AM VERY LAX AND UNSCHOOLED ABOUT THE ENTIER POLITICAL AREAS..

ELECTION TIME WITH MUD SLINGS BETWEEN THOSE RUNNING SICKEN ME TO NO END

I AVOID POLITICS BUT EMBRACE SIMPLE LIFE...ITS WHAT I WRITE ABOUT ALL THE TIME.

A GREAT SFF DEBATE IS ABOUT TO BE EMBARKED UPON, ME THE NEW GUY WITH ALREADY GAINING BY FAR THE MOST VIEWERSHIP NUMBERS PER BLOG AGAINST THE OLD ESTABLISHMENT INSECURE AND IN SEMI PANIC MODE .
JEALOUSY, INSECURITY, FEAR AND OF COURSE SELFISHNESS

RATHER THAN SHARE AND ENJOY, THEY ARE PROGRAMMED TO CRAVE CONTROL AT ALL TIMES.

I CAME HERE TO PROVIDE ENJOYMENT AS TENS OF THOUSANDS OVER SOME 14 YEARS OUTSIDE THIS SFF SITE HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TOO.

i HAVE OVER 5,000 BLOGS I CAN COPY AND PASTE. i AM PUBLISHED AND IF SENIOR FRIEND FINDER ALLOWED MORE THAT SIXTEEN LETTERS TO ANY PROFILE. MY CHOSEN NAME IN HERE WOULD HAVE BEEN.

WellKnownOnlineAuthor with ONLINE as a key guide to foggy minds of assumption.


Rocketship 80F
18602 posts
11/24/2018 8:22 pm

I looked up the definition of Neo-liberalism~~~ It isn't at all what I thought it meant!!

*Interesting~~


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/25/2018 3:58 am

    Quoting Rocketship:
    I looked up the definition of Neo-liberalism~~~ It isn't at all what I thought it meant!!

    *Interesting~~

Thank you.. I probably should have looked it up myself..
So maybe I just misinterpreted MySeeks statement.

The definition.. doesn't seem "liberal" at all..
It's like you got switch.. the today's focus of liberalism....of things like human equality, entitlements, government for the people...government spending, and government protection for the poor.
To liberalism for privatization, global, trade and business, and reduce the impact of government.. becoming a "new" liberalism that more in line with conservative ideas. than the current "liberal" ones.. Kind of like a friendly oligarchy.."trickle down economics" with a heart..


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/25/2018 4:44 am

    Quoting WellKnownAuthor:
    JIMMY YOUR COMMENTS UPON THIS UP AND COMING DOG VERSE CAT FIGHT WOULD BE WELCOMED.

    yOU ARE OBJECTIVE AND THUS GREAT VALUE IS ATTACHED TO YOUR VIEWS.

    I AM NOT INTO POLITICS AT ALL..... NO CLEAR CUT DEFINITIVE WINNERS WITH ONLY BACK AND FORTH VIEWS AND OPINIONS.

    IN FACE I AM VERY LAX AND UNSCHOOLED ABOUT THE ENTIER POLITICAL AREAS..

    ELECTION TIME WITH MUD SLINGS BETWEEN THOSE RUNNING SICKEN ME TO NO END

    I AVOID POLITICS BUT EMBRACE SIMPLE LIFE...ITS WHAT I WRITE ABOUT ALL THE TIME.

    A GREAT SFF DEBATE IS ABOUT TO BE EMBARKED UPON, ME THE NEW GUY WITH ALREADY GAINING BY FAR THE MOST VIEWERSHIP NUMBERS PER BLOG AGAINST THE OLD ESTABLISHMENT INSECURE AND IN SEMI PANIC MODE .
    JEALOUSY, INSECURITY, FEAR AND OF COURSE SELFISHNESS

    RATHER THAN SHARE AND ENJOY, THEY ARE PROGRAMMED TO CRAVE CONTROL AT ALL TIMES.

    I CAME HERE TO PROVIDE ENJOYMENT AS TENS OF THOUSANDS OVER SOME 14 YEARS OUTSIDE THIS SFF SITE HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TOO.

    i HAVE OVER 5,000 BLOGS I CAN COPY AND PASTE. i AM PUBLISHED AND IF SENIOR FRIEND FINDER ALLOWED MORE THAT SIXTEEN LETTERS TO ANY PROFILE. MY CHOSEN NAME IN HERE WOULD HAVE BEEN.

    WellKnownOnlineAuthor with ONLINE as a key guide to foggy minds of assumption.
Well.. you're new here so.. you haven't been here long enough to be "ignored". I doubt with your ego.. you'll stay.. when that happens.

Still.. you offer a great deal...That they refuse to acknowledge..

Politics doesn't require "specific" categorical knowledge.. just intelligence and reasoning

You understand.. what's happening and the 'folly" of it all... that's the beginning of understanding....The labeling.. of "liberal' "conservative" and "the middle"..It's ridiculous...what they try to make it mean
When one sees the "folly" of it all.. One immediately joins "the middle"...The objective of both sides is to squeeze the middle.. Force "the middle" to join a side, and the middle doesn't need anybody to join.. they don't have a side....they are ALL SIDES
It's an attempt at the reversal of power in our Democracy.... The irony is "the middle" is "caught" in the middle.... When "the middle" is the only one that isn't searching for POWER......When the fact is.."the middle" has the only "real" power " Without the knowledge they have power.. they can't use it, and they just sit on their hands and take it..
The solution.. is for "the middle" to rise and squeeze out the ends.
But in this country "the middle" would rather flee than fight....They don't think they NEED to win..
I differ.. I think "the middle" HAS to win.. I try do what AIl I can to make everybody.."THE MIDDLE"... To join MY middle.. And those that want to join today's labeling of Liberals and Conservative .. I say the hell with YOU.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/25/2018 5:08 am

We talk of corruption, the swamp, and collusion.....Like it's some outside entity.
It's NOT.. It inside..It's the struggle for power.
It has become the corruption of the "Two party system"
Two Party system use to NOT be what you JOINED.. but just a closer alignment of what you thought... NOT what YOU ARE.....You can a "part" of something, without relinquishing your independence.
Np matter your label.. We all need to be INDEPENDENT. Think and reason for YOURSELF.
Trump is the epitome and the personification of it....Corruption, collusion and "the swamp".. Join him and lose your independence, become what he wants you be, and lose your own mind..


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/25/2018 5:32 am

    Quoting Rocketship:
    I looked up the definition of Neo-liberalism~~~ It isn't at all what I thought it meant!!

    *Interesting~~

When one looks it up.. For me Russia is the design...Faulty for sure,, but still, from and idealistic standpoint.. Russia has transformed itself from Communism and socialism. to NOW.... Neo-liberalism.


LeafReport 73M

11/25/2018 5:41 am

Hey Cricket. Man I love your columns. Interesting to have a real conversation now and then. I did what Rocket did to bone up on my perceptions. I wasn't far off the mark but the study was worth the time. Couple of thoughts here. First, you have to be careful because I sense multiple theories on what this really is. I think I really got lucky with the source I settled on. I'll find it again and post it here later.

First let me qualify my belief. I like the concept of Neo-Liberalism believing that in its purest form it represents the clearest path to a high quality of life for everyone. The problem of course is that nothing is pure, and what do you do about that problem. I would have to think about that for some time. Beyond that my problem with this philosophy is the economic assumption of it. In my view capitalism is broken now. It's a sad reality, but I don't think an honest reflection could reach a conclusion otherwise. The problem is much deeper than just the winners and losers of the marketplace.

Stay with me here...but let me stray from the subject to pull another issue into this discussion - Brexit and the longer term viability of the EU. I'm now looking into this with greater interest now that an agreement has been reached and implementation may be coming by March. Although I've read an apparent consensus that the EU is a failed experiment, something concerns me that political leaders, international bankers and academic theorists are all missing. That is the other side of the equation in the Neo-Liberalism theoretical model - the social elements. This is where profound uncertainty has been created and its also why I think many in the UK are frankly nervous about what May is doing. In my opinion this is one of those rare moments in history where I think the politicians need to tell the people...I don't care what you said, its not gonna happen and then trust in the system to control the chaos in the streets. But that's just my view.

Why do I say all this? Well in many ways I'm afraid to tell you because I think, though I'm not positive, that you will find my reasoning lacking credibility because of a perceived blindness. Not much I can do about that because of the positions I've taken over the past two years. But let me assure you, my reasoning IS objective. Ok, hold on to you hat, here comes. I say all this because the world has a serious problem - the American president Donald J. Trump. I know Cricket...I know LOL But I'm serious here. I'm not talking about small potatoes like the impact of the Keystone Pipeline, or transgender service in the military or forest maintenance. It's far more serious than that. Take a quick look at the world around you today...

- Divided America with dangerous assaults upon institutions, the courts, fair elections and the free press - and now border closings becoming routine over the past few days.

- Brazil elects far-right government
- Another round of currency chaos in Argentina, weekend riots over soccer and this is where the G20 summit will be held
- Trade wars are really beginning to bite, and the court just stopped the Keystone pipeline and that is going to lead to political headaches for Canadian politicians as its my understanding that tar sands oil production is presently robust. It's just another oil industry problem. Toss Russia, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia chaos of war and famine in Yemen, support for a murderer and Iranian hate and who knows where it ends up. Even American oil interests are mad at Trump. But its worse...the farm belt is suffering and republicans reneged on their promise of help and the effect of tariffs is about to shock consumers after the first of the year.
- France is fighting the public in the streets already, and they just floated the idea of a European Army.
- Political change is coming in Germany
- NATO seems directionless
- Putin is clearly manipulating and/or blackmailing Trump
- The American stock market is highly volatile
- Trump has stoked nationalism world-wide and racist sentiment is growing fast in South Africa
- Brexit uncertainty
- North Korea is hiding nukes
- Trump withdraws from Paris and agreement with Iran
- Trump begins the militarization of space

Yes, the world always seems to be messy. But the world simply does not have the right players to manage the mess.

In my view Cricket...I do not think Europe can endure a collapse of the EU. They have to fix the problems not run away from them because that is going to create even bigger problems for many nations. Ultimately its going to lead to mass migrations...but to where? Who on the world stage is prepared to manage a crises like that? The sharks will sniff opportunity and nobody is prepared to punch it in the nose.

America needs an adult in the White House...the world needs one, and we have an incompetent mad man at the helm. Every day is now critical here...every single day.

Finally...I agree with you on your statement regarding Myseek's assumption. It's mind-boggling to me as well. I don't think Europe fully grasps the nightmare America is struggling with in Trump, but they aren't ignorant of the problem either. It's just that Myseek doesn't know what neo-liberalism is and I don't know who is telling her what it is. But its certainly not Hillary.

Frankly, Neo-Liberalism is best described as a frustrated American's hope of political utopia, and millions of people feel this way. But Americans also know that Capitalism is broken today, and in order to fix that they have to fix the political problem first. It's one day at a time and its certainly an arduous task.


LeafReport 73M

11/25/2018 8:23 am

    Quoting  :

Now that was funny Maisie....


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/25/2018 10:35 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    Hey Cricket. Man I love your columns. Interesting to have a real conversation now and then. I did what Rocket did to bone up on my perceptions. I wasn't far off the mark but the study was worth the time. Couple of thoughts here. First, you have to be careful because I sense multiple theories on what this really is. I think I really got lucky with the source I settled on. I'll find it again and post it here later.

    First let me qualify my belief. I like the concept of Neo-Liberalism believing that in its purest form it represents the clearest path to a high quality of life for everyone. The problem of course is that nothing is pure, and what do you do about that problem. I would have to think about that for some time. Beyond that my problem with this philosophy is the economic assumption of it. In my view capitalism is broken now. It's a sad reality, but I don't think an honest reflection could reach a conclusion otherwise. The problem is much deeper than just the winners and losers of the marketplace.

    Stay with me here...but let me stray from the subject to pull another issue into this discussion - Brexit and the longer term viability of the EU. I'm now looking into this with greater interest now that an agreement has been reached and implementation may be coming by March. Although I've read an apparent consensus that the EU is a failed experiment, something concerns me that political leaders, international bankers and academic theorists are all missing. That is the other side of the equation in the Neo-Liberalism theoretical model - the social elements. This is where profound uncertainty has been created and its also why I think many in the UK are frankly nervous about what May is doing. In my opinion this is one of those rare moments in history where I think the politicians need to tell the people...I don't care what you said, its not gonna happen and then trust in the system to control the chaos in the streets. But that's just my view.

    Why do I say all this? Well in many ways I'm afraid to tell you because I think, though I'm not positive, that you will find my reasoning lacking credibility because of a perceived blindness. Not much I can do about that because of the positions I've taken over the past two years. But let me assure you, my reasoning IS objective. Ok, hold on to you hat, here comes. I say all this because the world has a serious problem - the American president Donald J. Trump. I know Cricket...I know LOL But I'm serious here. I'm not talking about small potatoes like the impact of the Keystone Pipeline, or transgender service in the military or forest maintenance. It's far more serious than that. Take a quick look at the world around you today...

    - Divided America with dangerous assaults upon institutions, the courts, fair elections and the free press - and now border closings becoming routine over the past few days.

    - Brazil elects far-right government
    - Another round of currency chaos in Argentina, weekend riots over soccer and this is where the G20 summit will be held
    - Trade wars are really beginning to bite, and the court just stopped the Keystone pipeline and that is going to lead to political headaches for Canadian politicians as its my understanding that tar sands oil production is presently robust. It's just another oil industry problem. Toss Russia, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia chaos of war and famine in Yemen, support for a murderer and Iranian hate and who knows where it ends up. Even American oil interests are mad at Trump. But its worse...the farm belt is suffering and republicans reneged on their promise of help and the effect of tariffs is about to shock consumers after the first of the year.
    - France is fighting the public in the streets already, and they just floated the idea of a European Army.
    - Political change is coming in Germany
    - NATO seems directionless
    - Putin is clearly manipulating and/or blackmailing Trump
    - The American stock market is highly volatile
    - Trump has stoked nationalism world-wide and racist sentiment is growing fast in South Africa
    - Brexit uncertainty
    - North Korea is hiding nukes
    - Trump withdraws from Paris and agreement with Iran
    - Trump begins the militarization of space

    Yes, the world always seems to be messy. But the world simply does not have the right players to manage the mess.

    In my view Cricket...I do not think Europe can endure a collapse of the EU. They have to fix the problems not run away from them because that is going to create even bigger problems for many nations. Ultimately its going to lead to mass migrations...but to where? Who on the world stage is prepared to manage a crises like that? The sharks will sniff opportunity and nobody is prepared to punch it in the nose.

    America needs an adult in the White House...the world needs one, and we have an incompetent mad man at the helm. Every day is now critical here...every single day.

    Finally...I agree with you on your statement regarding Myseek's assumption. It's mind-boggling to me as well. I don't think Europe fully grasps the nightmare America is struggling with in Trump, but they aren't ignorant of the problem either. It's just that Myseek doesn't know what neo-liberalism is and I don't know who is telling her what it is. But its certainly not Hillary.

    Frankly, Neo-Liberalism is best described as a frustrated American's hope of political utopia, and millions of people feel this way. But Americans also know that Capitalism is broken today, and in order to fix that they have to fix the political problem first. It's one day at a time and its certainly an arduous task.
Changing ideologies..?

No matter what ideology one has.. it's basis of the "ideal" situation presents a positive response.. "Ideally" any ideology works..
The problem is reality and people.. not ideology..

First...one needs to understand , Trump has no ideology.. He's not conservative.. He is overwhelmed with political realism and underwhelmed with ideals.

So when does not having an ideology, become it's own ideology?

It's what Trump expresses ALL the time.. It the non-ideology, ideology he wants US to buy into..
America First and Nationalism....Is void of normal ideology...It's ALL Transactional.. The value is in the transaction and not the ideology.
Saudi Arabia. is the perfect example....Trump is not going to allow, some stupid American ideology of truth and justice and human rights.. to void a transaction that HE sees as beneficial.

This isn't something brand new... We have always dealt with the "Transactional" weighed against crossing an arbitrary red line of American ideology..
Trumps new ideology is that American ideology should have NOTHING to do with it.
It's soldiering in a war of ideologies.. You don't die for your ideology.. You let your enemy die for his ideology.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
11/25/2018 11:46 am

    Quoting  :

From Snopes...."On 19 March 2018, HB 565, an abortion abolition bill sponsored by Republican Reps. Ron Hood and A. Nino Vitale and co-sponsored by a group of 16 other Republican legislators, was introduced to the Ohio House of Representatives. That bill, as described by Cleveland Scene, could impose “life in prison or even death penalty specifications” on women and medical providers involved in abortions:

[Seeks] to abolish abortion in the state of Ohio by stipulating that both doctors providing abortions and women seeking them could be slapped with criminal charges for doing so. The bill would also define a fetus as “an unborn person,” opening the door to murder charges that could carry life in prison or even death penalty specifications for the woman or her doctor. There would be no exceptions for *e, or for pregnancies that threaten the health of the mother. Under the proposed law, unintentional loss of a fetus during a medical procedure would not count as abortion.

Opponents have characterized HB 565 as “one of the most punitive, and alarming, anti-abortion bills in modern US history” and “the worst intrusion on a woman’s reproductive rights by the Ohio legislature to date.”

The chances of the bill’s actually being passed into law and enacted are questionable as this time, though. First HB 565 would have to clear the Ohio House of Representative’s Health Committee, which comprises thirteen Republicans and six Democrats, then the bill would have to pass a full House vote, but only about 20 other Republicans in the 100-member House have signed on to support it so far."


LeafReport 73M

11/25/2018 2:37 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    Changing ideologies..?

    No matter what ideology one has.. it's basis of the "ideal" situation presents a positive response.. "Ideally" any ideology works..
    The problem is reality and people.. not ideology..

    First...one needs to understand , Trump has no ideology.. He's not conservative.. He is overwhelmed with political realism and underwhelmed with ideals.

    So when does not having an ideology, become it's own ideology?

    It's what Trump expresses ALL the time.. It the non-ideology, ideology he wants US to buy into..
    America First and Nationalism....Is void of normal ideology...It's ALL Transactional.. The value is in the transaction and not the ideology.
    Saudi Arabia. is the perfect example....Trump is not going to allow, some stupid American ideology of truth and justice and human rights.. to void a transaction that HE sees as beneficial.

    This isn't something brand new... We have always dealt with the "Transactional" weighed against crossing an arbitrary red line of American ideology..
    Trumps new ideology is that American ideology should have NOTHING to do with it.
    It's soldiering in a war of ideologies.. You don't die for your ideology.. You let your enemy die for his ideology.
Well I share that view in that components of a philosophy such as Neo-Liberalism are not pure...thus you are faced with the reality problem and the unknown consequences of that. I have to admit that during the campaign I had mixed feelings about Trump's insistence he wasn't going to be predictable. It sounded concerning at the time and yet you still had a confidence that we could cope with that...after all, how far 'out there' could it possibly go? Well we found out its a heck of a lot bigger risk than anybody could imagine. That's where I'm coming from now. It's hard to argue your claim that Trump has no ideology. The transactional nature is definitely something confirmed. But the America first argument is simply subjective...and that's being kind when I think a more appropriate characterization is pure propaganda in argument. Trump is a modern day fascist, He's not a nationalist. That's the fraud. But I'm telling you now...trouble is coming after Christmas, big trouble. I can't put my finger on exactly what its going to be yet, and frankly it could come tomorrow. But we are entering a very troubling period in our history. We are lucky the voters see the trouble on the horizon and acted the way they did on election day. We now have to hope that new political leaders on the national stage lead us where we need to go. I am encouraged by the prospect that Kasich looks like he's going to challenge Trump. America has to stomp out the Trump cancer immediately. The WORLD is counting on it.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/26/2018 7:01 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    Trump is a fascist?
    Well we continue to make the same mistakes over and over again, by taking partial evidence and creating a whole truth.
    Trump is a Transactionalist?
    Maybe all fascists are transactionalists.. but not all transactionalists are fascists.
    Virtually every business man, in the realm of business dealing, is a transactionalist.. but Not all businessmen are fascists.
    Trump is the extreme transactionalist... All Trump's "life" dealings become transactional. There are two parts to that.. First part is the goal, and the favorable result.. and second is the method to achieve that goal....Most people get hung up on the method, to not achieve their goal...Honesty, integrity, morality, compassion, and ethics.. all play a major role for most people not to achieve their goal. Trump does not have those constraints, and in fact uses those constraints, other have, as part of the method to achieve his goal... This can be interpreted as winning at all costs.
    For example... collusion and obstruction are not evils.. if in fact.. they aid in the achievement of a goal. They are meaningless as to morality.
    Ideas like DACA, and separating illegal children, are also meaningless from a moral standpoint.. but a method of achieving a goal..both can be "used" as transactional bait..
    The idea of 'fascism' requires a specific ideological trait.. Trump does NOT have it.. He will use fascism, democracy, dictatorships,socialism and oligarchies.. All can be uses as a means to his ends.
    He's too busy making favorable "Deals".. to think of anything beyond today. except his own glory....

    His philosophy is America First, Nationalism, and whatever is good for Trump is good for the country.. if Trump wins .. the country wins.

    The problem is..once the transaction is completed... it's a done deal.. It's a success..It's a win...
    The repercussions, The follow up, and collateral damage..If Trump is FORCED to deal with those things....They are NOT part of the original deal..they just become a NEW transaction.
    Simply the deal...is NOT Trumps problem...he just moves on to the next transaction.
Trump is a fascist?
Well we continue to make the same mistakes over and over again, by taking partial evidence and creating a whole truth.
Trump is a Transactionalist?
Maybe all fascists are transactionalists.. but not all transactionalists are fascists.
Virtually every business man, in the realm of business dealing, is a transactionalist.. but Not all businessmen are fascists.
Trump is the extreme transactionalist... All Trump's "life" dealings become transactional. There are two parts to that.. First part is the goal, and the favorable result.. and second is the method to achieve that goal....Most people get hung up on the method, to not achieve their goal...Honesty, integrity, morality, compassion, and ethics.. all play a major role for most people not to achieve their goal. Trump does not have those constraints, and in fact uses those constraints, other have, as part of the method to achieve his goal... This can be interpreted as winning at all costs.
For example... collusion and obstruction are not evils.. if in fact.. they aid in the achievement of a goal. They are meaningless as to morality.
Ideas like DACA, and separating illegal children, are also meaningless from a moral standpoint.. but a method of achieving a goal..both can be "used" as transactional bait..
The idea of 'fascism' requires a specific ideological trait.. Trump does NOT have it.. He will use fascism, democracy, dictatorships,socialism and oligarchies.. All can be uses as a means to his ends.
He's too busy making favorable "Deals".. to think of anything beyond today. except his own glory....

His philosophy is America First, Nationalism, and whatever is good for Trump is good for the country.. if Trump wins .. the country wins.

The problem is..once the transaction is completed... it's a done deal.. It's a success..It's a win...
The repercussions, The follow up, and collateral damage..If Trump is FORCED to deal with those things....They are NOT part of the original deal..they just become a NEW transaction.
Simply the "done deal"...is NOT Trumps problem...he just moves on to the next transaction.

You got to understand that some people like that idea.. of a way to get things done....They can like it all they want.. until "sure as shootin".. they become the repercussions and the collateral damage. NOBODY IS IMMUNE OR PROTECTED FROM TRUMP.
Those that believe they elected him...and he will side with them, he will "service" them... are fools.....the election was just another transaction for Trump.. and the result of that election.. Only means Trump made a deal, a "done deal", and that means he elected himself.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/26/2018 7:20 am

Maisie philosophy of "Buyer beware" comes full circle.. Trump sold the goods, made the deal...How it benefited you?.... Doesn't matter.. it benefited him.. How he sold it, doesn't matter..You bought it.. You own it... it's a done deal..and HE MADE IT HAPPEN. It's his "Art of the Deal", NOT YOURS..
NO RETREAT.. NO SURRENDER
NO RETURNS..NO REFUNDS