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jiminycricket1 73M
5404 posts
10/11/2018 10:36 am
Vote Your Conscience


The Kavanaugh thing.. and the truth .. about the HOW of it.

Democrats would do anything to get him off the court
Republican would do anything to get him on the court

How do I know that.. well, it's simple..

The ONLY reason Kavanaugh is an argument is because of the filibuster rule.. of 60% Senate vote to confirm a Supreme Court Justice. Its the right thing to do....Kavanaugh would have NEVER been nominate if the rule was in effect..
The Supreme court.. must be Bi-partisan...everybody says it... but nobody believe it.

The Republicans will not go back to the rule.
Democrat will not change the rule... if they get the power.

Anybody... and I mean anybody. Democrat or Republican ,.. in the Senate that will NOT reinstate the 60% rule for Supreme court Justices... needs to be voted out of office.

The idea that is so terribly wrong in this country.. Is "Who's got the Power"
It's FUBAR....

WE ALL GOT THE POWER. We need to start acting like it..

SO JUST VOTE... and vote your conscience.. No need to know the WHAT of it.. just the HOW of it.... Because it doesn't matter WHAT this country does.. It only matters HOW we do it.


starwomyn 70F
8871 posts
10/11/2018 11:30 am

Does God choose Footballs or Political Parties? I don't think so. Both are made up of individuals who have their own personal choices. A cell phone, education, home, and toilet seat are good things to have. Life is difficult without them. Poopouri can go a longs ways in helping the sh*t not to stink.

Abracadabra


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/11/2018 11:33 am

Of Course to many of you .. I must be wrong...not buying into any of the partisan bullshit from both sides of the aisle....you all spread..

Like how being an American defines You..... Like what Political Party you belong to defines YOU..... Like belonging to the "only true religion" defines you...Like your citizenship or immigration status define YOU......Like the color of your skin defines You...... Like what you OWN defines you........or where you live defines YOU......or what you eat defines YOU..

Makes me want to "Hoover"..."the Chicken in every pot... two cars in every garage"
Everybody's got to have cell phone, have a college education, own a home, and sit on a gold toilet seat.....so your shit doesn't stink......and you can flush your morals down with your ideals.

When you could have it all... by giving it all up.. The WHAT you are doing.. and start thinking about how you are doing it.. and how it's being done to you.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/11/2018 11:39 am

    Quoting starwomyn:
    Does God choose Footballs or Political Parties? I don't think so. Both are made up of individuals who have their own personal choices. A cell phone, education, home, and toilet seat are good things to have. Life is difficult without them. Poopouri can go a longs ways in helping the sh*t not to stink.
Well... the potpourri is good.......diversity is good... diverse opinions are good.

But it seems to me we aren't talking the same language of good and bad..

And Opinions... well opinions don't mean what the use to mean.

If fact.... I doubt anyone has an "opinion" anymore..


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/11/2018 12:03 pm

I need to clarify something....the misunderstanding...

If you don't already know it.. I write poetry... the funny thing about poetry is.. to do it.. you got to think figuratively....
Well.. it's the only way.. I can WRITE and think at the same time.. if I do it poetically .. it works..because that's what poetry is.. you either understand figuratively or you don't...And it doesn't matter

In this genre... it doesn't work so good....If you don't get it.. It's my fault, not yours,
because I can't do it, any other way... so it's my fault or the fault of a genre, I don't belong in.

I do have a big advantage... because, although I have to WRITE figuratively.... I can still think literally.. so I can understand you, even if you can't understand me.

That doesn't make me special.. it just makes me who I am..In fact, in many ways it's a drawback and hinders my communication travel..because.we are never on the same plane.


Rocketship 79F
18531 posts
10/11/2018 12:28 pm

^5 Jiminy!!

Unfortunately, many in politics feel an independent thinker is a danger to their 'system of power'.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/11/2018 12:40 pm

    Quoting starwomyn:
    Does God choose Footballs or Political Parties? I don't think so. Both are made up of individuals who have their own personal choices. A cell phone, education, home, and toilet seat are good things to have. Life is difficult without them. Poopouri can go a longs ways in helping the sh*t not to stink.
(you have to think figuratively and alternatively to understand what I'm going say)..

I don't know about Footballs or Political Parties?......but.....I think God doesn't choose sh*t.

So to God.. I know my sh*t doesn't matter..so if mine doesn't matter.. then why do you think yours matters to HIM..I say HIM.. because God is a Man you know.. So go ahead sing out your HYMN.... or maybe let's say aMEN.... because GOD is not just one man... HE is every man

So maybe God doesn't think I deserve the "good' things in life.. like a toilet seat.
But the toilet seat shouldn't matter as a "good' thing in your life.. Unless you think...your sh*t matters..


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
10/11/2018 1:51 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    I need to clarify something....the misunderstanding...

    If you don't already know it.. I write poetry... the funny thing about poetry is.. to do it.. you got to think figuratively....
    Well.. it's the only way.. I can WRITE and think at the same time.. if I do it poetically .. it works..because that's what poetry is.. you either understand figuratively or you don't...And it doesn't matter

    In this genre... it doesn't work so good....If you don't get it.. It's my fault, not yours,
    because I can't do it, any other way... so it's my fault or the fault of a genre, I don't belong in.

    I do have a big advantage... because, although I have to WRITE figuratively.... I can still think literally.. so I can understand you, even if you can't understand me.

    That doesn't make me special.. it just makes me who I am..In fact, in many ways it's a drawback and hinders my communication travel..because.we are never on the same plane.
" I can still think literally.. so I can understand you, even if you can't understand me. " How many ways will you try and defend your patronizing?..
I get it, we don't "understand", but you do.....It doesn't make you special......you're just made that way......but we just happened to be made in a way that we don't "understand".....therefore, we should just accept your explanations as the ultimate truth.......not just your personal take. .....You just keep digging yourself deeper into that pile of patronizing crap......


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/11/2018 2:33 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    " I can still think literally.. so I can understand you, even if you can't understand me. " How many ways will you try and defend your patronizing?..
    I get it, we don't "understand", but you do.....It doesn't make you special......you're just made that way......but we just happened to be made in a way that we don't "understand".....therefore, we should just accept your explanations as the ultimate truth.......not just your personal take. .....You just keep digging yourself deeper into that pile of patronizing crap......
Give it up....
There is NO Ultimate Truth.. NOT mine and NOT yours

Sparkle you've gone over the deep end on this...I have not condemn you for not thinking figurative.. for not understanding me.....It's my fault... you don't understand me... Not yours.

I try to give insight to MY Shortcoming and the reason for it.... and you make it indirectly an accusation of your shortcoming.. I can't write so you can understand me. I wish I could..but i can't.

I don't attack you....search through your blog to find shit to expose you...i don't do that.. I only react specifically to your attack, and only to the attack that's made.

When you bring up... Spelling, grammar and structure to me.. you're not wrong.. I'm wrong. I know literally I am wrong.
I know it....I ask you to forgive it and understand it.. and still you shove it down my throat. You attack what you see as my attitude.. and NOT your disagreement.

Although, I do pontificate. You assume it to be a male elitism.. You assume i am acting like a pontiff... For you it's a simple man truth.....and i disagree...

No one's truth is that simple, and no one's truth is ultimate..... Including yours


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/11/2018 3:01 pm

    Quoting Rocketship:
    ^5 Jiminy!!

    Unfortunately, many in politics feel an independent thinker is a danger to their 'system of power'.

Thank You...

I don't think it's "quite" the same.. that they think I'm a danger to what they think...As I am to them personally.

I think.. the desire to make someone else wrong is matched by one's FEAR they could be wrong.

Trump's way of thinking is not just about sexual assault....he can't shift it that fast...It's a Trumpian way of DENY, DENY, DENY,. Because the only alternative is to admit you could be wrong.


lilium6 74F
4498 posts
10/11/2018 3:15 pm

I agree with Rocket, and figuratively or not, like the way you think :- )


LeafReport 73M

10/11/2018 3:38 pm

I definitely agree. I'm not sure how long its going to take but I think that there is hope we can restore the filibuster once McConnell is gone. He is one of 5 Americans who have acted to destroy the United States. The others? John Boehner, Dick Cheney, Roger Ailes, Dennis Hastert and Trump


MrsJoe 76F
17309 posts
10/11/2018 4:06 pm

JC, one thing I can say about you is that you are unique.

Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
10/11/2018 5:05 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    I need to clarify something....the misunderstanding...

    If you don't already know it.. I write poetry... the funny thing about poetry is.. to do it.. you got to think figuratively....
    Well.. it's the only way.. I can WRITE and think at the same time.. if I do it poetically .. it works..because that's what poetry is.. you either understand figuratively or you don't...And it doesn't matter

    In this genre... it doesn't work so good....If you don't get it.. It's my fault, not yours,
    because I can't do it, any other way... so it's my fault or the fault of a genre, I don't belong in.

    I do have a big advantage... because, although I have to WRITE figuratively.... I can still think literally.. so I can understand you, even if you can't understand me.

    That doesn't make me special.. it just makes me who I am..In fact, in many ways it's a drawback and hinders my communication travel..because.we are never on the same plane.
I write poetry too.....and I have been a figurative artist all my life.....I assure you, I can think figuratively and I can write and think at the same time and I can write literally......If you can think literally, you can write literally.........You obviously have some problem expressing your thoughts, but it looks to me like you are deliberately confusing because you think it makes you seem wise or something. I have been reading philosophical writings all my life........and discussing it with others and I have no problem understanding complex, abstract thought........

If you can think literally, as you claim, and read your posts, surely you can see what a jumble it usually is........You say you understand what we write, yet you can't compare your own writing to what you read in clearly written books and articles and see why we are having a problem understanding your meaning?........You must have had this communication problem your whole life, yet you haven't taken steps to ameliorate the situation?..........You say you understand what I'm saying, yet you can't understand how to make yourself understood......good grief


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
10/11/2018 10:17 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    Give it up....
    There is NO Ultimate Truth.. NOT mine and NOT yours

    Sparkle you've gone over the deep end on this...I have not condemn you for not thinking figurative.. for not understanding me.....It's my fault... you don't understand me... Not yours.

    I try to give insight to MY Shortcoming and the reason for it.... and you make it indirectly an accusation of your shortcoming.. I can't write so you can understand me. I wish I could..but i can't.

    I don't attack you....search through your blog to find shit to expose you...i don't do that.. I only react specifically to your attack, and only to the attack that's made.

    When you bring up... Spelling, grammar and structure to me.. you're not wrong.. I'm wrong. I know literally I am wrong.
    I know it....I ask you to forgive it and understand it.. and still you shove it down my throat. You attack what you see as my attitude.. and NOT your disagreement.

    Although, I do pontificate. You assume it to be a male elitism.. You assume i am acting like a pontiff... For you it's a simple man truth.....and i disagree...

    No one's truth is that simple, and no one's truth is ultimate..... Including yours
I assume your pontification is to be male elitism? Look whose making the assumptions here........and I don't think my truth is ultimate..........Oh My God.....


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/12/2018 2:51 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I assume your pontification is to be male elitism? Look whose making the assumptions here........and I don't think my truth is ultimate..........Oh My God.....
You still haven't done it.. explained it and admitted it.

In a world of biased and prejudice. In a world of psuedo-patriarchy that objectifies and diminishes women. And all the hurtful things that are said to you every day, because you are a women.

With all that .. you are going to accuse me.. of "mansplaining?

And think you are saying something accurate about me...Maybe you should look in the mirror. Because to me.. It says a heck of more about the way you think.. than the way I do..


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/12/2018 3:08 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I write poetry too.....and I have been a figurative artist all my life.....I assure you, I can think figuratively and I can write and think at the same time and I can write literally......If you can think literally, you can write literally.........You obviously have some problem expressing your thoughts, but it looks to me like you are deliberately confusing because you think it makes you seem wise or something. I have been reading philosophical writings all my life........and discussing it with others and I have no problem understanding complex, abstract thought........

    If you can think literally, as you claim, and read your posts, surely you can see what a jumble it usually is........You say you understand what we write, yet you can't compare your own writing to what you read in clearly written books and articles and see why we are having a problem understanding your meaning?........You must have had this communication problem your whole life, yet you haven't taken steps to ameliorate the situation?..........You say you understand what I'm saying, yet you can't understand how to make yourself understood......good grief
yes that's true...the premise not the conclusions

Where it fall apart for me. Is the reason I'm writing it....The mindset when I put the words down.. Here is different ...than, let's say.. when I'm at work.
My being at work is to impress the people I'm writing to... Here it's really Never the case..

"but it looks to me like you are deliberately confusing because you think it makes you seem wise or something"

I have known that's the way you felt for a long time....It's not true.

I'm am deliberately confusing.. so I seems wise?
Does that really make sense to you.

On this site. like my poetry.. I write for me.. not for you...
I write.. to put down my jumbled thoughts....So it makes sense to me..not to you ....Here I get to leave it on the paper.....control my own OCD.... Find some order for myself..instead of banging my head up against the wall..For me , it works. that's why I'm here, That's why I write so much. that's why it appears confusing.
I do think figuratively, checking out all the angles.....I write the different angles for my own entertainment.. which expresses my own irony and uncertainty.....and the fact.. that NOBODY here...can write ANYTHING.. written in stone.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/12/2018 3:23 am

    Quoting MrsJoe:
    JC, one thing I can say about you is that you are unique.
thank you.....but then again... so is each and everyone of US...We are all unique.
It shouldn't be a designation for those who are special or different.
And when we see that we are ALL special and different... It becomes a quality of the many, instead of the one, and the many then becomes the One...the ONE nation, under ONE God..... that would solve a heck of a lot of problems.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/12/2018 4:35 am

    Quoting LeafReport:
    I definitely agree. I'm not sure how long its going to take but I think that there is hope we can restore the filibuster once McConnell is gone. He is one of 5 Americans who have acted to destroy the United States. The others? John Boehner, Dick Cheney, Roger Ailes, Dennis Hastert and Trump
Well.... the designation of people out to destroy our democracy. Is certainly your prerogative..based on what you see.. they are doing...
But isn't someone's actions.. just an assumption of their intent.. an assumption of probability.....and a denial of our commonality.. it's to such an extent that the evidence shows that EVERYBODY is out to destroy our democracy
I'd prefer you tell me who wants to save our democracy.. instead who's out to destroy it.....Those people WILL NOT form a PARTY line.. they will form a TRUTH line.
But that, my friend, is easier said than done.
The partisanship of the last fifty years, and the final straw of Donald Trump.. Has made being able to find Truth Seekers in Washington a thing of the past. In the world of my fears about our destruction....that tops the list.......
. A COUNTRY WITHOUT THE COMMONALITY OF TRUTH.

The solution is when we begin to see the Truth that's in everybody.. That uniqueness of our commonality.. instead of the commonality of our Lies.
Which is A virtual impossibility... as long as Trump is our President.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
10/12/2018 10:08 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    yes that's true...the premise not the conclusions

    Where it fall apart for me. Is the reason I'm writing it....The mindset when I put the words down.. Here is different ...than, let's say.. when I'm at work.
    My being at work is to impress the people I'm writing to... Here it's really Never the case..

    "but it looks to me like you are deliberately confusing because you think it makes you seem wise or something"

    I have known that's the way you felt for a long time....It's not true.

    I'm am deliberately confusing.. so I seems wise?
    Does that really make sense to you.

    On this site. like my poetry.. I write for me.. not for you...
    I write.. to put down my jumbled thoughts....So it makes sense to me..not to you ....Here I get to leave it on the paper.....control my own OCD.... Find some order for myself..instead of banging my head up against the wall..For me , it works. that's why I'm here, That's why I write so much. that's why it appears confusing.
    I do think figuratively, checking out all the angles.....I write the different angles for my own entertainment.. which expresses my own irony and uncertainty.....and the fact.. that NOBODY here...can write ANYTHING.. written in stone.
For God's sake, man, if you are not even attempting to communicate, if
if all these blogs and responses to others is not intended as communication, but is only your personal diary, that means you are just using us. Why are you on this site? Why are you posting your journals in this interactive format?......

Well, I'm glad you finally admitted that you aren't even attempting to communicate........


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
10/12/2018 10:40 am

Look, I've lived a life that has overlapped to great degree with what is traditionally considered "a man's world"....This has placed me in many situations where men feel their territory is enroached upon........and so they patronize....I did a lot of woodworkm including carving. I had a collection of the best carving tools....chisels, gauges, spoon-gauges, curved knives etc. I even took a course in tool-making and made my own carving adze....I developed the best sharpening for my own needs and style, for the kind of wood I carved etc.....they were well maintained and kept in a canvas roll. I sometimes worked at home and sometimes at our boat-shop. One day, I went to the shop to fetch my tools, there was a male friend standing at the sharpening wheel, grinding my tools to conform to his idea of how they should be sharpened.......without asking me..........He said he was only trying to be nice......helpful. ......mansplaining how tools SHOULD be sharpened.

Then there was the time I went down to the dock to go somewhere in my boat.....to pick up my daughter.....and there was another male friend sitting in my boat with the cowl off the outboard and parts lined up on the dock. He said he heard me come in the night before and he didn't like the sound of my engine.....so he decided to tune it up........just tune it up.....he was only trying to be nice, do me a favour....mansplaining how my engine SHOULD sound.

And the smoked salmon.......I am a salmon /fish/oyster smoking veteran......I have a virtual PhD in smoking fish........and I know what I like and what I don't like....But how many men, who don't even ask me what I know, just go right into mansplaining to me how to smoke fish........On and on, mansplaining............So one time, a woman characterized your patronizing , garbled endless explanation as mansplaining and you have a tantrum........big hairy deal......


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/12/2018 11:21 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    For God's sake, man, if you are not even attempting to communicate, if
    if all these blogs and responses to others is not intended as communication, but is only your personal diary, that means you are just using us. Why are you on this site? Why are you posting your journals in this interactive format?......

    Well, I'm glad you finally admitted that you aren't even attempting to communicate........
For God's sake, MAN.. For God's sakes.. MAN.. what you got to remind yourself before you blast me..
Again you continue to do it...You can not get off that horse

I should do what you and maisie do.. communicate the way you gal communicate.
I'm the poster child for people who DON"T COMMUNICATE

I don't communicate . I share..That's what I do.. Not for you and not for maisie, but for some people here .. MY sharing is a form of communication.. Since you can judge my communication ability.... How do you judge your own.. by agree and disagree checkboxes?

You and maisie do communicate?.. And anytime I admit to anything. or provide information to clarify something.. Then You or maise use it against me.. no understanding , no compassion....No empathy....You communicate it all too well.. You have ONE agreement and ONE agreement only with maisie...to find out... what the hell's wrong with him..

Like maise's agreement with your comment. and not because she agreed with you.. she was dissecting my own admittances... She was praising you.. not agreeing with you.... WTF? Kind of person does that?... See how easy it is for you gals...to agree and communication..YOU never admit your fault, just like she doesn't... you and maisie "communicate" on the same level ....Sorry... I don't bend over that low...
Until I want to "communicate" with you, make sure you understand ..exactly what I mean..
You and maisie got two choices... and both of them result in the fact you "gals" can "stick it where the sun don't shine".. OH, by the way.. that's my "mansplaining" again.


LeafReport 73M

10/12/2018 11:51 am

    Quoting  :

McConnell started it with the filibuster abuse Maisie....hundreds of them. He could have restored the rules but he wouldn't do that either.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
10/12/2018 12:28 pm

You say your intent is to share, not communicate......well, I got news for ya buddy, sharing IS communicating........Sharing is a 2-way street......And LOL with your problem of being referred to as "man".....I call women that too..."c'mon, man"......so now you're going to be triggered by every word or phrase that has a male connotation......I also use the word "guys" to refer to a group of mixed genders, or even all female....."you guys hungry?" is that a trigger for you now too?........You know, of course that "Man" has been used collectively to refer to Humans for thousands of years...I would never ask "what's wrong with you?" I'm not saying there is something "wrong" with you, I'm just trying to understand what you post on this site and it's a very frustrating exercise........Just that it often seems like you're deliberately being obtuse........

You say that I don't think men have the right to challenge me or have an opinion......That's what you get from my examples?.........Those men got into my stuff.....If another man had taken apart their engine or their tools, they would have flipped out, but they just assumed it was OK to mess with a woman's tools......and a man would ask another man what he knew about a subject before lecturing and patronizing him on that subject..........If you know a man who would stand for another man messing with his tools or engines without permission, you are an incredibly isolated man.


jiminycricket1 73M
13732 posts
10/12/2018 12:58 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Look, I've lived a life that has overlapped to great degree with what is traditionally considered "a man's world"....This has placed me in many situations where men feel their territory is enroached upon........and so they patronize....I did a lot of woodworkm including carving. I had a collection of the best carving tools....chisels, gauges, spoon-gauges, curved knives etc. I even took a course in tool-making and made my own carving adze....I developed the best sharpening for my own needs and style, for the kind of wood I carved etc.....they were well maintained and kept in a canvas roll. I sometimes worked at home and sometimes at our boat-shop. One day, I went to the shop to fetch my tools, there was a male friend standing at the sharpening wheel, grinding my tools to conform to his idea of how they should be sharpened.......without asking me..........He said he was only trying to be nice......helpful. ......mansplaining how tools SHOULD be sharpened.

    Then there was the time I went down to the dock to go somewhere in my boat.....to pick up my daughter.....and there was another male friend sitting in my boat with the cowl off the outboard and parts lined up on the dock. He said he heard me come in the night before and he didn't like the sound of my engine.....so he decided to tune it up........just tune it up.....he was only trying to be nice, do me a favour....mansplaining how my engine SHOULD sound.

    And the smoked salmon.......I am a salmon /fish/oyster smoking veteran......I have a virtual PhD in smoking fish........and I know what I like and what I don't like....But how many men, who don't even ask me what I know, just go right into mansplaining to me how to smoke fish........On and on, mansplaining............So one time, a woman characterized your patronizing , garbled endless explanation as mansplaining and you have a tantrum........big hairy deal......
Well, the thing for certain. is women will agree with YOU..
You explained it perfecting....men don't have the right to challenge you, men don't have the right to their opinion, if not expressed as an opinion (which men find hard to do, sometimes, you got to believe it goes without saying)....basically you don't cut men any slack....so men don't have any rights, you give them. So they don't have any.... Unless they TAKE them.. and you'll be damned if they are going to take any from YOU.

You can learn something from me......I don't judge people as to how they treat me.. I judge people as to how they treat others.....I ALWAYS check it out to see if I am being treated different.

Now let me assure you.. I challenge EVERYBODY here.... I don't care, I don't know, and I don't treat you any different, than I treat anyone else. So unless you make it an issue.. i don't even realize your a woman....and Irony is when YOU make me think about.. I still don't realize you're a woman.

Of course Lizst thinks the same way.. and he's always right...he agrees with YOU too...Like I'm patronizing women....Like I want to get in yours or maisie pants.. Of course that's why I "patronize" women...that's why I'm confusing and that's why I can tell you.. to stick where the sun don't shine....because there...
Ain't no Sunshine where she's gone
Only dark clouds everyday
Ain't no Sunshine where she's gone
And when she's gone today
I hope.. She's gonna stay........... AWAY.

sparkle.. why don't you just agree with maisie, panther, and ET.. and stay away from me. if you do... You know what.. I will stay away from You?
I don't need YOU... as much as You need me.. Now I know you are going to take that the wrong way...
So it means..... I justify you.. but I don't need YOU to justify Me.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
10/12/2018 10:31 pm

You sure do spend a lot of time and energy polishing your halo.......better be careful though, or you'll polish it right out of existence.