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jiminycricket1 74M
5535 posts
5/17/2018 11:56 am
Your conscience.. Do You listen


I wrote this on Leaf's blog.....thought everybody who doesn't have access or doesn't Read Leaf.. needs to see it......

The right or wrong of it really doesn't matter....So I'll avoid specifics.. but we'd like to think that EVERYBODY HAS a conscience.....That whispers to them the right or wrong of it....the specifics don't matter for they could be different, for different people.. What matters is ...if people listen to it..

To different degrees everyone has and listens to it. Everyone to different degrees battles it. We start life developing it, listening to it, and doing it...
The battle first takes place.....when our conscience... doesn't serve our purpose.

We learn that our conscience is not out to make friends. Our conscience SEEMS to not have our self interest at heart. Our conscience doesn't understand the VALUE of the truth and the VALUE of a lie, It's either a truth or lie....It is... what it is. ..We cannot be self reliant upon it. ...it's let us down too often.. But like I said... it's in different degrees in different people.

Nobody battles their conscience like a politician.. For them, not battling it.. is a road to oblivion.

Letting your coscience be your guide... is the easiest thing in the world.. when you got nothing to LOSE... When the worth of the battle, becomes worthless.

So...Leaf, you forgot to mention names.... Where the conscience matters and the specifics don't. Agreement is not an attribute of 's conscience, and disagreement does not define the lack of .

So the question is....who follows their conscience... For most in politics we can Never really tell. But there are some.. who give us indicators.

John McCain, follows his conscience, Circumstances makes it so..He's got nothing to lose anymore. He doesn't have to battle his conscience anymore.

Donald Trump..... is the exception to my rule.....Donald Trump HAS NO CONSCIENCE to even follow...there IS no BATTLE... HE disposed of a conscience a long time ago...In a way... That's what gotten him... to where he is today.
Donald Trump.....gets what he want by NOT having a Conscience......Look where it's taken him....."The" leader" of the "Free" world.

Truly.... it's the basis of what's now happening.....As Trump followers ..follow Trump.

So Trump followers also try to lose their conscience to get what they want.

But in reality......they only lose conscientiousness

"BOTS FOR TRUMP"....... that only becomes power grabbers, money grabbers, and pussy grabbers...
And, truth and lies, are only in the value you can make of it. That other people are to be used..... Leverage and blackmail are tools of the trade.. "fake news" and "alternate facts" is a way of life"..... that everybody REALLY thinks the same.. and the only way to get ahead... Is to do it to them, before they do it to you....... that winning always has to means some else loses.

Find the truer meaning in maisie's diatribe about participation awards and equality.. For in her world......It's only possible..... with fake news, alternative facts, with the way measures, 's worth..., Of bias and prejudice, that can only build you up by putting others down... by doing it to them before they do it to you......by losing your conscience....by following Trump's lead...

What maisie would have you believe....

"If Nobody wins.... then everybody loses.........."

When in fact.. the truth is....

If nobody loses .. Then everybody wins.............


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
5/17/2018 11:59 am

Of course as usual for me... It's not in your face.. You got to think about it.. and certainly NOT in the terms of politics


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
5/17/2018 12:10 pm

Our eyes, look to see who we are
Defining ourselves, through our own eyes
Somewhere out there, that's views from afar.
It's a mistaken identity, of the unwise.

Your mind can't see you, with open eyes
Can 't see if you're ugly, or you're beautiful either
Can't see the color of your own skin, or where God resides
Seeing it in others..... defines it neither

Close your eyes, to see who you are.
and find yourself, in your own mind
Don't search for yourself, as to where you fit in
You're just ONE of a KIND
When you look within.

After you do.. peace it will bring
If everyone else, would do the same thing.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
5/17/2018 12:36 pm

I usually have a problem in needing to explain myself.. but in the poem above.. I found what I always search for.... Words that have double meaning.. and no matter the meaning you choose the poem works.

Most of you think the term "You're just ONE of a KIND'.. means special.. that's okay that works.

But if you look at it differently... it can mean..just One of the many.. just Ordinary to Whatever the "Kind" is...

That's works especially well for me...


MrsJoe 76F
17382 posts
5/17/2018 6:39 pm

A person can only answer that question for him/her self. Nobody can judge whether someone else does or doesn't.

Be a prism, spreading God's light and love, not a mirror reflecting the world's hatred.


hermitinthecity 70M
1696 posts
5/17/2018 10:23 pm

A conscience is God a given tool to use morally however people can 'sear their conscience', harden it till it even works in reverse. Like a German army officer who confessed his sin to Hitler as he'd let a Jew go during the war and his conscience later bothered him that he'd done it.

Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
5/18/2018 12:54 am

    Quoting MrsJoe:
    A person can only answer that question for him/her self. Nobody can judge whether someone else does or doesn't.
Yes you can.. You can understand not in spefics. for those are different , but in the nature of a conscience.. read Herminthecity comment and try to understand it...
It not what your conscience tells, you.. its whether to listen to it .


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
5/18/2018 1:08 am

    Quoting hermitinthecity:
    A conscience is God a given tool to use morally however people can 'sear their conscience', harden it till it even works in reverse. Like a German army officer who confessed his sin to Hitler as he'd let a Jew go during the war and his conscience later bothered him that he'd done it.
That's very good..... although I doubt others understand it..

The battle is between yourself and your conscience....The German army officer has a conscience.. and he listens to it.. the battle is between his reasoning and his conscience.. Who wins...well, it doesn't matter. it's the battle that means something, not who wins, and the battle means your listening...

So how do i know Trump doesn't have a conscience... because a man with a conscience ..CAN'T WIN... The army officer could not win the battle, either choice and his conscience was going to fight it..... Like the army officer.. those of you.. Who believe in loyalty, and patriotism will always have a fight with your conscience.. that tells you, you have one..


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
5/18/2018 9:05 am

let's take the different scenarios about the German officers conscience.. In the term of normalcy...Let the jew go..certainly means the German officer has a conscience. his conscience will still challenge the right or wrong of it...but even so..his conscience wins

Maybe another German officer has a battle with his conscience and decides to send the jew to the gas chamber.. that doesn't mean he doesn't have a conscience.. that just mean his self interest, and self protection won out over it. His conscience will haunt him..for that decision....unmercifully.. So the officer may have won that battle.. but will NEVER win the war against his conscience

Now, a third German officer sends a jew to gas chamber, as just a matter of fact. There's no battle with his conscience...because he doesn't have one.
His conscience can't be right...His conscience can't haunt him...and without a conscience... it is the ONLY way... he wins that decision.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
5/18/2018 5:10 pm

Remember that clip of Ivanka Trump being interviewed at the Olympic games in Seoul? ........She is asked if she believed the women accusing Trump of sexual misconduct ?....She answered "I think that's a pretty inappropriate question to ask a daughter"......At the time, I thought that she was using that as a way to evade the topic and that it was woefully dishonest considering her political position in the White-House, the fact that she was there on official government business representing the US......and setting herself up as a spokesman for Women........

I just watched it again, after watching her face at the Jerusalem ceremony and saw the decadent layers of privilege she displays....It's a very deep coating that she shares with her father, brothers, husband......but especially her father.....Trump's privilege has replaced conscience.....he doesn't need it.....even disdains it.......conscience is for lesser beings than him.......I don't think he even understands, or acknowledges that others operate from conscience.....there is that interview where he is asked if he has ever asked for forgiveness and he says that if he ever did anything wrong he would ask for forgiveness, but that has never happened, so he's never had a reason to ask for forgiveness. Then he is asked if he has ever asked God for forgiveness......this is a man who professes to be a Christian and promotes religion......he just repeated himself....saying that he has never done anything in his whole life that he thinks requires forgiveness........If you have enough privilege, a conscience is just extra baggage..