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jiminycricket1 74M
5510 posts
4/26/2018 11:56 am
"Collective Consciousness"


The "collective consciousness" is an interesting subject....

What you first have to understand is that NOBODY does what THEY think is wrong.
That's the underlying meaning of "collective consciousness".....However, they can do.. what YOU think is wrong....

Trump is a perfect example.......Even Trump doesn't do what he THINKS is wrong.
However, Trump does what he thinks is right, only in terms of himself. The consequences of what he does is about himself.. The consequences for others just doesn't matter....In fact, it only matters.. because he believes what's right for himself, by it's nature, has to be wrong for someone else.. or it's just not right enough.. ZERO BALANCE that's what Trump thinks ......his gain is YOUR loss...
That's the way an amoral egotistical narcissist thinks.

Maybe I'm prejudice, maybe I'm seeing more of what I want to see.. but I don't make shit up.....I look into the man's face, I listen to his words, I see his expressions....It's amazing that some people can't see... at least part of what I see....It's written on his face, it's written in his words, It's explained in his negativity, It's verified in his inconsistency...and finally... it's obvious in his LIES.... in which he has no remorse, no responsibility, takes no blame, and has no realization of it's consequences..
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jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
4/26/2018 12:57 pm

If you don't understand my point...
Trump is part of the "collective consciousness"
He does what HE thinks is right.

To understand what I'm getting at....is that Trump doesn't do anything that the rest of don't think about doing...

Doing the wrong thing because you think... in terms... it's going turn out right.
Or not doing the right thing because you think... it's going to turn out wrong.

We make those judgment everyday. For most of us.... we judge... we are doing the right thing even if we know it to be the wrong . ..but we have to live with that judgment.... Even if, at that moment, we don't understand what our own priorities should be.... but someday we may..when we discover that the right result became the wrong thing

But NOT with Trump, and his idea of doing the right thing.... it's not a judgment...right is Right Might, right is the Right Truth, and wrong is not an option.


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
4/27/2018 12:03 am

“A million zeros joined together do not, unfortunately, add up to one. Ultimately everything depends on the quality of the individual, but our fatally shortsighted age thinks only in terms of large numbers and mass organizations, though one would think that the world had seen more than enough of what a well-disciplined mob can do in the hands of a single madman. Unfortunately, this realization does not seem to have penetrated very far - and our blindness is extremely dangerous.”
― C.G. Jung, The Essential Jung: Selected Writings


Katie_au_lait 78F
7026 posts
4/27/2018 8:53 am

Oh, I got your message ok ... it just defies common sense.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/27/2018 11:29 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    If you don't understand my point...
    Trump is part of the "collective consciousness"
    He does what HE thinks is right.

    To understand what I'm getting at....is that Trump doesn't do anything that the rest of don't think about doing...

    Doing the wrong thing because you think... in terms... it's going turn out right.
    Or not doing the right thing because you think... it's going to turn out wrong.

    We make those judgment everyday. For most of us.... we judge... we are doing the right thing even if we know it to be the wrong . ..but we have to live with that judgment.... Even if, at that moment, we don't understand what our own priorities should be.... but someday we may..when we discover that the right result became the wrong thing

    But NOT with Trump, and his idea of doing the right thing.... it's not a judgment...right is Right Might, right is the Right Truth, and wrong is not an option.
Trump is mentally ill......a madman......trying to place him in a normative ethical collective consciousness is a fool's errand......Did you watch the Fox episode where Trump phoned in to his Foxy Friends and ranted for half an hour?.......That was the voice and words of a madman......or a very disturbed man having an episode. The problem, as I see it, is the unpredictability of the madness.....He's obviously extremely neurotic, but this tendency to randomly slip into madness could have dire consequences.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
4/27/2018 12:03 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Trump is mentally ill......a madman......trying to place him in a normative ethical collective consciousness is a fool's errand......Did you watch the Fox episode where Trump phoned in to his Foxy Friends and ranted for half an hour?.......That was the voice and words of a madman......or a very disturbed man having an episode. The problem, as I see it, is the unpredictability of the madness.....He's obviously extremely neurotic, but this tendency to randomly slip into madness could have dire consequences.
I believe in duality...

Nothing is opposite.. It's all the same thing, just made up finite ends of an infinite line. Because the line is infinite.. Each of us lives in the middle.. and the "collective consciousness" lives in the middle.
We define differences to define the ends, but our differences pale in comparison to our commonality. There are no ends to an infinite line.., and no matter where you are..You're just in the middle of it, somewhere.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
4/27/2018 1:22 pm

    Quoting  :

The quality of the individual? You say so many thing about others that only shows the way you think. who gets to decide? who's quality is it?

The quality of an individual is only based on one criteria.....The quality of THEIR truth.. not yours.

We all skew the truth to our being.. there is no set quality....but yet there is a commonality of the Truth.. It's what makes us human, it's OUR connection...

We question one's sanity...... When their truth, loses it commonality.

Now...You can ignore it.. You can skew it, barbecue it, and drink it up.....
But yesterday on Fox and Friends, Trump's sanity came into question. It went entirely overboard.. which may be alright for YOU.. but it's NOT for the President of the United States..It was NEWS, because NEVER has a President.. ranted like that.. beyond all commonality of the truth....You didn't have to read into it... It was shocking, and in your face...As President's go.. It was insane.
Trump has always lived in a amoral fantasy world without lies.... just maneuvered and filtered truths.. He KNEW without it... People wouldn't think of him as superior.. but insane.
There are somethings we learn from getting older, but there are also somethings, we just get tired of having to live with........like being on guard all the time....With age.... we lose our filters.... If caught off guard, our truth becomes known...
The sad thing about Trump's filtering and maneuvering not mattering anymore...He tells his truth. He's forgotten what he once knew... Without the filters.... people would think him insane..