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jiminycricket1 74M
5535 posts
4/24/2018 8:51 am
"In Rebuttal" to ET


You can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all the people all the time.

"In rebuttal"...is just saying.. I'm a "good person" .......I read it just the opposite.
As your actions speak volumes against that..

Certainly this isn't political, because politically we agree a lot more than we disagree, but as I once said. I'm about people, not politics.

I see the traps people lay and the prey they are after..
"The collective consciousness of right or wrong?" Is based on what?
Your consciousness of right or wrong...and disagreement makes it not collective?
You need to self-analyse on what you say and then what you do... You see, in my world, there is already a collective consciousness..that sometimes hides itself, but it's always there...
Anyone who denies it.. is only trying to make it something it isn't.

Your blog title.. "Melania Trump is not Barbara Bush". Might as well been titled.. Barbara Bush is no Michelle Obama..The blog was an abomination. As I read it and the responses, the irony was the only person who made SOME sense to me was "big".. that alone told me something.
His responses were attacked, yet his words did not deserve that.

Melania Trump.... sample responses

"I suspect, like all of Trump's former mates, Melania is under threat of non-disclosure. It seems apparent to me that this is what happens when one chooses to sell their soul to the devil for fame and fortune, especially being third in line! H-E-L-L-O!! Just how smart is this woman? Let us not give credit where credit is not due. She obviously had her own motivation in hooking up with this thug to begin with ... as the ultimate eye candy? How soon that fades! "

"Yes, Mr. Block, we have all seen those very dignified photos of her posing naked.......and it must take a lot of quiet strength to carry those big fake tits around.......She seems to be completely lacking substance or personality....a clothes-hanger".

"Well, my friend, people are judged by the company they keep. Besides, I'm not so sure just what she has achieved as first lady. I know she threw out the notion of dealing with bullies which was highly criticized due to the company she keeps, the biggest bully on planet earth. Otherwise, what has she done but strut around in high fashion looking mopey."


I tried to inject some empathy and compassion into the blog.. but, I must have misunderstood your "collective idea" of right or wrong........
To self-analyze and my lack of empathy that accompanied my own wrongdoing.... I called you an Adolpho wannabee.. I sort of regret that.. but then again. I had my reasons..

At any rate......I was deleted..So be it... You can delete me... but you can't shut me up.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
4/24/2018 10:01 am

People on the left will chastise me... for not going along with the program.

People on the Right will chastise me... for doing to Trump, what I say people do to others.

My idea of good person.. doesn't have to be the same as yours... as long as you can define it differently..
I believe Trump to be infectious.. in the wrong way.
As I define "a good person".... I can't Think of a single one.. Trump has surrounded himself with.. Think about for yourself..Who's "a good person", that's in Trump circle..."Good People' aren't wanted.. and any semblance, will mean "You're Fired"

Which bring me to Melania Trump.. and although she is "good" looking, has sold her soul to the devil, a high fashion model, stupid and mopey, a foreigner, got fake tits, and has to sleep in the bed she has made.......she let's us know everyday that she may be responsible, but she is not the perpetrator, just the victim......In that alone..it makes her the closest thing to a "good person" that surrounds Trump
You know it, and I know it....If it was politically possible (it will happen when politics has nothing more to do with it).....Trump would tell Melania today... "You're Fired"


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
4/24/2018 10:02 am

It seems everybody is either a perpetrator or a victim..

Speaking of perpetrators and victims......What is Melania perpetrating?

One thing, about ET, we know,..is that she will NEVER be a victim!

So.... if you think about it....What's left?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
4/24/2018 10:19 am

    Quoting  :

Well, we can also guess....she will welcome that day!

Whether she had her own ulterior motives or not..
Like everything else in life... , she made the mistakes of not realizing, with the "goods' come the "bads"
She bought the "goods", Trump was selling......and now wants her money back, but she's got to wait, for the right time.... to just "get even"... But what she, now doesn't realize is that time lost , can never... get you even..
It's a burden, i wouldn't wish on anybody..Life's too short, beauty too fleeting, and the shit still stinks.... even if it's "dumped" in a gold toilet.


Rentier1

4/24/2018 11:17 am

I chastise you for wordiness.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/24/2018 11:50 am

What do you mean by "collective consciousness"? Your attempts at profundity are almost always characterized by confusion and lack of specificity......If your intent is merely private rumination, a public forum seems an illogical choice...if your intent is communication, you need to define your terminology.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/24/2018 5:18 pm

    Quoting  :

People only make sense when they agree with you.....how predictable.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
4/25/2018 12:00 am

    Quoting  :

Well it wasn't ME saying those things...It was the responses in the blog...
I don't think it....... my point was that those "holier than thou"... even if they think it's true.. It not a reason...to dislike her..
Truth or not, fake tits or not....who's to point the finger...
Yes it pissed me off.. especially sparkles "fake tits" comment it was uncalled for..

I don't get pissed about what someone says.. I get pissed that they can even think it..and then think they can use it..So I have said it before .. and will never forget Trump's Comment.. "just look at her".. It seems, so now Just look at her "fake tits".... now comes in second to that.. Now for third.. I haven't forgotten "you folks" comments about Michelle Obama... unlike some of who you think are of my so-called friends.. I don't believe in tit for tat.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
4/25/2018 12:15 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    What do you mean by "collective consciousness"? Your attempts at profundity are almost always characterized by confusion and lack of specificity......If your intent is merely private rumination, a public forum seems an illogical choice...if your intent is communication, you need to define your terminology.
big mouth, big words... how about we talk about your tits.....You disgust me, not only with your thoughts, but your manuevering.. You think this is some game.. well, I ain't playing with you...
The collective right or wrong...has much more to do with honesty.. than being right.
The savior for the collective. is Honesty.. being right has nothing to do with it..
So I must gather that you are being honest..... so tit's matter to you, tits tells it all?
Or maybe you just think that tits matter to others, and you really don't give a shit about tits.. either way your thinking about it disgusts me.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
4/25/2018 1:15 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    People only make sense when they agree with you.....how predictable.
And from the mouth of "babes".. so comes the truth.

And so YOU don't understand.....I wonder why?

You see in my world, I know there are people who tune me out.. they know ahead of time, they don't want to hear what I have to say. I can accept that.. I have discover that most people want to ague about WHAT they think.. they don't want to argue about HOW they think about it..... that's when they truly get offended.
But what's harder for me.. is those that just control the dial..turning it on and off.
Mixing up the tunes of the WHAT and HOW.
You see I'd rather take the wall than the "selective thinking"..
maybe,not now or even tomorrow, but someday the wall may break. But the ""selective" thinker, always just puts up a new wall.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
4/25/2018 11:49 am

I am not defending, women who Have breast implants....
To me, It' just like people who get tattoos.. I don't like breast implants and I don't like tattoos.....I wouldn't do it.. but to each his/her own.

My idea about it, is always the same...... short term satisfaction, that could very well result in a long term problem...

But, I do it.... so how can I condemn those who do the same kind of thing..

I see it in my own life.. the idea... I do something I want, but if I was to think about it at the time, I would know the consequences would be bad..
we all do it.
We all are compulsive... We label the drug Addicts, or Alcoholics, or gamblers as compulsive. but we all do it in everyday life....
Lying, cheating on someone, taking advantage....A compulsive act, that at time we think is good for us....But if we thought about it, we would understand.. it's going to turn out bad.. most people don't care...and don't even give it a second thought..
.It's an irony.. in living for the moment, and not the past or the future as the best way to live....It's an irony, because sometimes living for just the moment can turn out bad...

Conversely, some things. like an abortion, is the same thing but opposite, doing something you know is bad in the moment. as you MAY think it is good for your future. When there will come a time .. you'll find out it's not.... For most people, That time will come, when you say.. "I had to do it".....because you didn't have to do it,. you choose to do it....... If you say you "HAD" to do it...That kind of justification only means.....avoiding the truth of what you really think...You probably chose wrong......And trying to justify it, by saying you didn't have a choice....... But YOU did.
There are people who make the right choice for them to have an abortion, but they don't have to think about it, anymore...The irony is that there are people who make wrong choice, because...the wrong choice is never thinking about it. They just do it, like it doesn't matter..

Melania should have known better....But that just makes her one of us. At least for her.. she can see it as "enhancing" her occupation, because certainly she didn't need it..
I am assuming she did have breast implants .. I don't know that for sure.. But even if she did.. who am I to judge??


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
4/25/2018 2:10 pm

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    big mouth, big words... how about we talk about your tits.....You disgust me, not only with your thoughts, but your manuevering.. You think this is some game.. well, I ain't playing with you...
    The collective right or wrong...has much more to do with honesty.. than being right.
    The savior for the collective. is Honesty.. being right has nothing to do with it..
    So I must gather that you are being honest..... so tit's matter to you, tits tells it all?
    Or maybe you just think that tits matter to others, and you really don't give a shit about tits.. either way your thinking about it disgusts me.
Why won't you define your terms? What do you mean with your "collective consciousness"? What do you mean?.....That was an honest question.......Tits don't really matter to me, I used them as a symbol or metaphor for the focus on the physical appearance of women and the acceptance of beauty as a virtue that is intensified in the Trump presidency.......I find it extremely disturbing.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
4/26/2018 10:46 am

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    Why won't you define your terms? What do you mean with your "collective consciousness"? What do you mean?.....That was an honest question.......Tits don't really matter to me, I used them as a symbol or metaphor for the focus on the physical appearance of women and the acceptance of beauty as a virtue that is intensified in the Trump presidency.......I find it extremely disturbing.
Well, I didn't say "collective consciousness".. ET did..She explained it as a group knowing the difference between right or wrong..

My definition..had nothing to do with right or wrong...My definition is EVERYBODY is part of the "collective consciousness"....the only right/wrong about it, is truth, and with the truth...the "collective consciousness" will take care of itself.

Your metaphor didn't work for me.... In a way, it explains a lot about what's wrong..
Your metaphor is the kind of reasoning...they do., what Trump does. Taking disagreement and then labeling...

For example.....Trump expresses beauty as a virtue......We both agree it is NOT..
However your metaphor.....takes it to a place, they want you to go
When we argue... beauty is NOT a virtue.. We lose the argument ...when they say.. we are calling it a detriment, That's what they do. Turn what we say into what they want it to mean.
So they say to others...." WE think beauty is a virtue, those Liberals think beauty is a determent. Who do you think is right?
Well, your metaphor plays right into their hands.
They do it with everything....beauty, the wealthy, the Christians, businesses, Capitalism, conservatism and even patriotism.. As you disagree with them, you become labeled the opposite.
As soon as you try to label.. beauty, being rich, or being Christian as a bad thing... WE LOSE. Because although beauty is not a virtue.. It's not, in itself, a bad thing either.