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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
10/24/2017 5:29 am
Trump and Hitler.... part two


sparklefit....... wrote a response to my blog. that put my perspective of Hitler and Trump in a different light. It seems appropriate that an atheist using the word GOD.. clarified thing for me.. Not that my ideas about it changed but looked at it in a different way.
The subject didn't have much to do with the original blog.. so I thought it deserved it own post.

WE put the blame on Hitler... the face of fascism.. when fascism has multi faces.
but the true face of fascism.. is the moral lies.
Connecting the dots between Trump and Hitler.... Is difficult to be sure.
But connecting the dots between the American people and the German people is much easier. I have been trying to tell people that for a long time..but it always seems to revert back to Trump and Hitler.

The truth about Trump and Hitler is not in the telling of moral lies...It's the believing of the moral lies. People get the choice to believe or not. the German people believed, we haven't reached that point yet.

Morality and immorality is about the baser instincts of people.
The conflict that results can be used, that what Trump does, he uses the conflict of our baser instincts against a higher moral purpose.

The irony of Christianity......We are all sinners.... Yet can be saved. The sinner becomes the baser instinct, and the conflict is what we are willing to do to be "saved".
Christians should be ashamed to be a Trump supporter, but too many are not....The reason... Well, we are all sinners..Aren't We?

"One day Satan, the devil, came to the Garden of Eden. He told Eve she should eat the fruit of the tree of good and evil. Eve said God had told her and Adam not to eat it.
Satan said the fruit was very good. He told Eve it would make her wise. She would know good and evil. Eve chose to eat the fruit."

Sparklefit.... you should be on Trump's side.. He is anti-religion. He is against everything religion stands for......He sees our baser instincts and appeals to them.
He uses a higher moral purpose, only in the sense that people can have it ALL.
His greatest lie, is that our baser instincts can serve a higher moral purpose.
In that way Trump, is exactly like Hitler. The only question we need to ask.... Are we going to be like the German people?
It's not about Trump.. It's Never been about Trump...It's about US.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/24/2017 6:01 am

I'm pretty sure in some shape or form I believe in GOD, maybe not the way most people do.. but in my own way. God is truth, even if the truth is not God

What I don't believe is that there is a Satan. so I don't use the word Devil, literally only metaphorically.

Now..... if i did believe in such a thing...As the anti-Christ..... It wouldn't reside in the murders, thieves, or r*pists.
It would reside in Trump.... not just because he's a liar..It's more than that....He's a subversive liar, trying to get us to take a bite of the apple.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/24/2017 6:57 am

    Quoting Fossil_Fetcher:
    Once again you have proved what a cluttered mind you possess.

    Fossil

Bite Me!


bijou624

10/24/2017 7:20 am

Interesting blog. As badly as Trump is doing, I was watching the news yesterday and there was Melania at a public school advising the children not to be a bully. OMG has she even met Donald Trump the biggest bully of all time?????????? Those children have access to t.v. and the internet, so unless they live a very sheltered life, they must know their own president insults people every single day for years. To be honest the children did not seem impressed with her at all, and they weren't even looking at her and you could barely understand what she was saying as her accent is so strong. I think she should pick another topic to focus on.

Trump and Hitler?..........oh yes I definitely see many similarities.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/24/2017 7:30 am

The one thing about the devil, unlike the rest of Us, is the devil is NOT conflicted.

There's No conflict in "good" and "evil", or wrong and right. The devil doesn't choose sides about that.. it's all the same.

It doesn't matter to Trump if your racist or non-racist, Liberal or conservative, live in the farm belt or reap what you sow in the city. If you're a Christian or a Muslim, an American or a Russian, a Jew or a German, or a citizen or an illegal immigrant.

All those thing create conflict...Conflict is a tool, and chaos is a ladder.

So from the Devil's perspective of the equality of good and evil, and right and wrong. No matter what side you are on.. you are in conflict...That's when Trump tries to get you to take a bite of the apple. once you do, it doesn't matter which side you were on.
"He told Eve she should eat the fruit of the tree of good and evil."

I must say this about Trump, I think it makes a difference if you are rich, famous, or beautiful. I'm not sure what that means.. but I think it means, those are the things he believes people are not conflicted about. Those are things that matter, those are the things in which our baser instincts can be made to conform to a higher purpose.
Trumpism...."Rich, famous, and beautiful. don't fight it, don't try and figure it out. don't make less than what it is... look in the mirror.......Be realistic......"Beauty is only skin deep"........anything else, is just a mind game for the ugly"

"Just look at her"

Now how do like them apples?


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/24/2017 7:42 am

    Quoting bijou624:
    Interesting blog. As badly as Trump is doing, I was watching the news yesterday and there was Melania at a public school advising the children not to be a bully. OMG has she even met Donald Trump the biggest bully of all time?????????? Those children have access to t.v. and the internet, so unless they live a very sheltered life, they must know their own president insults people every single day for years. To be honest the children did not seem impressed with her at all, and they weren't even looking at her and you could barely understand what she was saying as her accent is so strong. I think she should pick another topic to focus on.

    Trump and Hitler?..........oh yes I definitely see many similarities.
Well the irony of that is... who better to tell them not to be a bully.. than someone who knows a bully.
Do you honestly think that Melania. is impervious or immune? I don't think so... It's written on her face.
What she needs to tell them, but she CAN'T, because she doesn't know....is what to do when confronted by a bully.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/24/2017 8:03 am

    Quoting Fossil_Fetcher:
    "Bite me!" This is the clearest post you have ever made. Try to continue in this mode, if possible, so that you readers can understand what you are saying.



    Fossil

Bite Me!


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/24/2017 9:11 am

    Quoting Fossil_Fetcher:
    Good, good...let the hate flow. Soon you will see the path to the dark side.



    Fossil

You lead the way to the path to the dark side..... disrespect deserves disrespect in return. I'm tired of your "Big Dog" attitude. If you're going to enter MY house, I expect you to sh*t in the toilet, or go home and sh*t in your own.....Your don't have the right to sh*t anywhere you want to.

Bite Me!


bijou624

10/24/2017 9:47 am

    Quoting jiminycricket1:
    Well the irony of that is... who better to tell them not to be a bully.. than someone who knows a bully.
    Do you honestly think that Melania. is impervious or immune? I don't think so... It's written on her face.
    What she needs to tell them, but she CAN'T, because she doesn't know....is what to do when confronted by a bully.
Good point. Maybe by talking publicly about bullying she could be trying to make a point to her husband. Sorry but that entire family is so hard to take.


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
10/24/2017 1:33 pm

I think you misunderstand my Atheism. I'm against Religion because it is a lie made up of innumerable lies.......It is based on the biggest lie......That Faith is a virtue. Faith causes a separation between Religion and other things you know.
Faith protects the idea of God from proof. In every other aspect of life, the Faithful use their Senses and Reason to give them the necessary information for survival.....It is only in their Religious life that those necessary tools are suspended.
Superstition is a False Positive.......We are evolved to believe that the rustle in the grass is an intentional agent, because those of our ancestors who assumed the rustle was the wind, did not live to reproduce.........We are pre-programmed by our DNA to assume the existence of an active agent where there is only wind....

In other words, Atheism is not a cohesive belief system.The only shared belief Atheists have is that we don't believe in the existence of a Supernatural, all-powerful agent....

That's it.....other than that, Atheists have no belief system in common. As for Trump......Well, He claims to be a Christian and have a strong belief in God.....He has Publicly stated that Faith many times.......


sparkleflit 76F
10271 posts
10/24/2017 1:39 pm

    Quoting Fossil_Fetcher:
    "Bite me!" This is the clearest post you have ever made. Try to continue in this mode, if possible, so that you readers can understand what you are saying.



    Fossil

Because my daughter has told me of some of her clients with Dementia becoming more aggressive and rude, I have occasionally wondered how we should respond to a member of this site having an advancing case of Dementia that becomes aggressive, but still retaining the ability to post.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
10/24/2017 4:54 pm

    Quoting sparkleflit:
    I think you misunderstand my Atheism. I'm against Religion because it is a lie made up of innumerable lies.......It is based on the biggest lie......That Faith is a virtue. Faith causes a separation between Religion and other things you know.
    Faith protects the idea of God from proof. In every other aspect of life, the Faithful use their Senses and Reason to give them the necessary information for survival.....It is only in their Religious life that those necessary tools are suspended.
    Superstition is a False Positive.......We are evolved to believe that the rustle in the grass is an intentional agent, because those of our ancestors who assumed the rustle was the wind, did not live to reproduce.........We are pre-programmed by our DNA to assume the existence of an active agent where there is only wind....

    In other words, Atheism is not a cohesive belief system.The only shared belief Atheists have is that we don't believe in the existence of a Supernatural, all-powerful agent....

    That's it.....other than that, Atheists have no belief system in common. As for Trump......Well, He claims to be a Christian and have a strong belief in God.....He has Publicly stated that Faith many times.......

I understand it......You have more faith than most of those religious yahoo's here.

Sometimes i don't talk in the first person, but a third person... sorry, i know it's confusing