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Anti pro-life I wrote this on beth's blog about abortion. Since it was her, and she is not one of them. I had stuff to say to them, that would have been inappropriate on her blog. There are so many other issue where the premises of abotion apply, that no one deals with, with the same vigor. In fact the hypocrisy of so called pro-life people, is evident even here. oh heck especially here. (Beth I am not including you, but virtually everyone else here, who supports you) Think about it... capital punishment collateral damage from wars. famine, natural disasters, exposure, toxicity even healthcare, healthcare applies just as much. let's not even bring up the potential from global warming, it all too easy for these people, when they are not on the line, when they don't have to go out of their way, When they just get to be decision makers and not doers. We let people die........ "oh too bad" they say, "that's the way it is.". Anti-public health care capital punishment advocates gun owners anti foreign aide. Anti-government intervention, Anti- doing anything about global warming bomb the shit out them, kind of people some people don't deserve to live people, kind of people All every single damn one of them is Pro-life. They'll say that people who die, in the realms of their belief, have control, and make their own decision, and are thus are responsible. Where as an unborn does not have control, can't make their own decisions, and are not responsible. They are responsible to make the decision for them I say BULLSHIT. |
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When we analyse things overall. Pro-choice people are more pro-life than pro-lifers.
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This is such an angst filled situation. Only those who have been in this situation know how difficult a decision it is to make..... to carry or abort a fetus. How easy it seems for some to judge others, or want to force their beliefs on others.
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Jimmy hi and gm to you. Thanks for you above statement. Am glad you understand I'm not an activist as such, otherwise my Theme wouldn't have been: " What's you thought on Abortion", which means each is free to his/her personal thought about the subject and it was good to know and and to acquire more knowledge and opinion on the topic. That was good and I appreciate it very much, for it turned out to be a clean, free, peaceful, respectful and inoffensive debate, without any insult as well. Such debate has its Pro and Against opinion too. You have stated more facts or reasons, I respect them just as I do for others as well. But I would still say, if/when the one subjected cannot take his own decision or is unable to. Everyone may stress to convince others on his own reason but what really matters is the one concerned, the one who is speechless, defenseless and most of all innocent. The other one involved should be neutral and impartial. Just my opinion. It was a great pleasure reading you on the subject Jimmy. Thank you again. Hope reading from you always. Sorry, I couldn't respond to all the comments on my blog yesterday, as it was my late night time and I was obliged to continue to day. Thanks for your understanding Jimmy. Enjoy a nice weekend with your family. Lisa.  .
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12/3/2016 2:42 am |
Interesting blog Jiminy. I would like to apologize to any woman in the group who has had an abortion and through some of the comments over the years here has been made to feel like she is a heartless murderer. We are not doctors or psychiatrists or mind readers here and don't know one single thing about your situation or your decision to have an abortion.
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Of course it's bullshit Jiminy! It's bullshit because these people only look at what they perceive to be the "wrongs" of others. That's why they have to keep asking "What's the matter with you Jiminy?"! They will never understand that you (and many others) see a far bigger picture than they do. "Abortion is murder"...but killing babies in other countries is normal behaviour? Denying poor children the right to health care and even decent food in their own country ...is normal? They tell us that there are millions of childless couples desperate to adopt "unwanted" babies. NOT TRUE Have they not heard of IVF? Have they not heard of the many who will not adopt a child of different race? Maybe many black couples would love to adopt...but can barely afford to feed their existing families Have they not heard of the many who will not adopt a disabled or troubled child. Have they not heard of the hundreds of thousands of children living on the streets, in danger from traffickers, abusers and paedophiles etc? Or starving to death? They don't want to pay for the "crimes" of others...but treat the babies as "leftovers" because they don't want to pay for them either. "It's not my responsibility" they say...there are charities who can look after them." They are so Patriotic...they don't give a damn how their country is viewed...just as long as they don't have to pay taxes...but give them a war and they will pay their taxes to kill babies the world over. The most vociferous of them (in SFF, anyway) are hypocrites of the worst kind.
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Right. I don't want the beliefs of baby murderers forced on me. I don't want to pay for the murderers crimes either. Fossil Judgment Day will be interesting - and all paths lead there.
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I was having fun yesterday, making up jokes, some were on your blog response, some were on fossil's. I hope you laughed at some. fossil has said to others that I am bi-polar....He may be right. yesterday was kind of an emotional rollercoaster, pretty even keeled to start, then silly, then with this blog I got pissed off. I wish I could ignore them, but little things get me angry. I usually laughed at the big things,, like being called bi-polar. cause it doesn't mean squat. but i guess it does to them.. why? Because they want to tell everybody i am damaged goods? I understand with katie blog on trolls why individual do it, I accept that pretty easy. but what about a group of trolls? Those who join in. They may think the folks, those that oppose, are a group of trolls too, but it's not true. I see it. The gist of the subject may be the same, but as a group, there no singular, bandwagon of nastiness. Maggie, you, Hobson, Panther, bijuo, and Leaf, and even Trumpgal, may agree on the same subject, but you don't act the same the way, and use the same things over and overas a group. Laughing at those you oppose, and making some sort of pact. You are separate people, thinking separate things, in different ways. I have to give maise some credit here, because she doesn't do it, but then again she doesn't stand against it.
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Since Roe vs Wade, There has been no issue that defines America more. I have always believe that. I see all other issues in relation to Roe Vs Wade. Although, my position is choice. I respect TRUE pro-life people. I respect people who believe, under no circumstances, should an abortion be performed. If that's what you believe, that decision of life and death should be left to God, then so be it. I will not fault that view, I'm just going to disagree. Then, they should agree, it be God's decision, on whether there is choice or not and what choice THEY make. There are other folks, who really don't care, and just wish to PLAY God. They are the ones that piss me off. It's the same with every issue we are confronted. These people don't really care, they just want to play God, because if they cared, they would see all sides of the issue, before they made up their mind. They would appreciate the fact they get to make up their own mind, instead of someone else telling them what to think. The see Roe vs Wade, and things such as Gay rights, as telling them what to think. It's so absurd for anyone to think that way, that is, of course, unless you think you're God.
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Of course it's bullshit Jiminy! It's bullshit because these people only look at what they perceive to be the "wrongs" of others. That's why they have to keep asking "What's the matter with you Jiminy?"! They will never understand that you (and many others) see a far bigger picture than they do. "Abortion is murder"...but killing babies in other countries is normal behaviour? Denying poor children the right to health care and even decent food in their own country ...is normal? They tell us that there are millions of childless couples desperate to adopt "unwanted" babies. NOT TRUE Have they not heard of IVF? Have they not heard of the many who will not adopt a child of different race? Maybe many black couples would love to adopt...but can barely afford to feed their existing families Have they not heard of the many who will not adopt a disabled or troubled child. Have they not heard of the hundreds of thousands of children living on the streets, in danger from traffickers, abusers and paedophiles etc? Or starving to death? They don't want to pay for the "crimes" of others...but treat the babies as "leftovers" because they don't want to pay for them either. "It's not my responsibility" they say...there are charities who can look after them." They are so Patriotic...they don't give a damn how their country is viewed...just as long as they don't have to pay taxes...but give them a war and they will pay their taxes to kill babies the world over. The most vociferous of them (in SFF, anyway) are hypocrites of the worst kind. As we view the world, we see it's ugly head there too. It's just a horse of different color, but on the same ride. While some countries put a patchwork over some things, It's just a patch. It would not take much for that tire to blow. It just may be human nature. to live on the edge. We just need to appreciate our advantages a little more than our disadvantages. Build upon those, instead of destroying others. Maybe then in a couple of hundred years, we can get off the edge.
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The irony of things i just see it everywhere. Even in myself We think, we do things in our own self interest, our own benefit, even if it's the giving of ourselves, WE have been given our lives to take care of our lives, not the lives of others, It's their duty to take care of that. In taking care of our lives, we may effect others, but then again we may not. It really doesn't matter, It's their life, not for us to decide. So, we need to decide about our own lives. With those decisions our self interest is met. Getting others to bend to our will, does nothing for us. It can't be a goal, it' s a nothing. We need to bend to our own will. I think of Don Quixote, and fighting windmills, real ones or just the windmills of his mind. What it means? I keep thinking as long those are just his windmills, it doesn't matter, we can learn from it. But if it's our windmills he was fighting, and not his, there is nothing to be learned. There is no benefit in our changing other people minds, we think there is. When our only benefit to be achieved is to change our own mind. Live your own life as you see fit. you may think that's not enough, I think it is I try, I try, that doesn't mean I do. As some of you may think I'm fight your windmills, I try not too, I'm too busy fighting my own..
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