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jiminycricket1 74M
5533 posts
11/6/2015 1:38 pm
Benghazi Hearings


I wrote four responses to a blog about Benghazi. I wanted to save them. I want others to read them. I wanted to hear what other think.....

First of all it was a terrorist attack.
the moment it happened it was a terrorist attack.

The discussion and problem you folks have is about what caused the terrorist attack.
The administration indicating the video was the main reason, was wrong
Your trying to indicate it was a failure of policy is also wrong.

The truth is the cause doesn't matter. A terrorist attack has many causes, and by nature is opportunistic.

Any protest anywhere, can be used by terrorists. It's what they do. hide behind the protest. At that time, the protest of video was happening throughout the Muslim world.

It was stupid for the administration to say that video had anything to do with the attack. I never bought it for a second.

What I did buy into was that the State Department (Hillary) made a mistake in trusting the Libyan government. Because of that trust was ill prepared for the events that happened.

What I believe, just my opinion, is that truth of events is that the Libyan government is responsible, if not directly, indirectly. It easily could be seen by Americans as an act of War. I felt the exact same way in 1979 when our embassy in Iran was overrun. Was it terrorists or the government of Iran?
The State Department was put between a rock and a hard place. We get rid of Khadafi, and now need to get rid of another government? Don't think that would work. So we protected them, deflected from them. I believe that's what happened.

the Right is trying make a political statement, from an event that should not be political. It's all about politics/religion in the Arab world, but can't be about politics/religion here.

I'd like to think we got our pound of flesh from the Libyan government. I think we may have. We just can't say it now.
Obvious, Libya now, has not shown the propensity for terrorist attacks that usually follow such unpunished events.
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The idea that these actions are done by some nefarious, unconcern person. That should not hold office, That doesn't believe they have the best interest of the country in mind. When it comes to world politics having this attitude is treasonous. It undermines everything we stand for.
It doesn't matter if you believe it or not. Politically speaking, it's the reverse of the old saying...My country right or wrong. By making it wrong, when it need not be, it becomes treasonous.
The right is wrong in what they're doing with this Benghazi incident. It show they're willing to go as far as treason to get what they want.
I see this not as an investigation, I see this as an attack.
Not to try and find a solution, but to undermine the current government
I see that as treason.
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When it comes to American politics, constitution, laws, policies, political parties etc etc....Say what you think, It your duty and responsibility. to voice your opinion, That's what we stand for, then let the chips fall where they may.

Once the chips have fallen............
And it come to world politics it's not the same thing, that's not what we stand for. We are the UNITED states, when comes to world politics.

You can voice your opinion, about world politics, cast your ballot about world politics if you choose.

But don't dare undermine US.!

You folks speak of Patriotism, Speak of the American Way, Speak of American values.....you speak with a forked tongue and make me sick!
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This is not the sixties, this is not the Vietnam War. but it says a lot about what this is.

The irony cut's like a knife.

The conservative right in the sixties saw what the left did. Knew what the left was doing. Those of you who were conservative can think back to that time and what the left did, and what it felt like.

I always have believed that the Vietnam war was string of plausible errors.
No one singularly responsible, and occurring at time when making errors was too much a sign of weakest.
That being said..My country right or wrong, was still my country.
My obligation was to make it better, my duty to defend it.

Those on the left undermined our country, no matter the reason, right or wrong.
That's what I thought, That what conservatives thought.

Well lo and behold...here we are today....Most conservative have learned nothing. But to use the trick they have seen and learned. It doesn't matter to them what they felt in the sixties about the Vietnam War and the Left.
Many on the left still supported our country, right or wrong, but that is forgotten also.

Today, the idea that the Right is right, makes what they do right, just like the Left in the sixties. Doesn't matter the big picture, any picture will do.
It's so important that they remember how they felt in the sixties, betrayed, and unsupported, and treasoned against
Remembering that feelings, maybe some on the right, can understand how I feel today

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jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/7/2015 12:09 am

    Quoting  :

This is foreign policy not domestic. I agree with domestic policies.
But you are choosing to have the world see our foreign policy through our politics. Hillary isn't a secretary of state,,,she's a Democrat, the president isn't the president of the United States he's a Liberal.
All well and good at home, but not in the eyes of the world.
Any United States Representative to the world represents all of us. doesn't represents a political party, or a political party platform. Do you think that's what a representative of the United states has on his mind. He or she represents that to world?
Even the idea or the innuendo of that is traitorous,
As much as I disliked Bush, and could call the Iraq War..Bush's war. I would never say it was a Republican War, One person can be responsible or the whole nation is responsible
Benghazi, was not one person, it was a group people who represent the United States. To insinuate it has anything to do with American party politics is an affront to me, and to all those in the foreign service.
This whole Benghazi hearing is a witch hunt. If it's not political.
the hearing could still happen, but we wouldn't even know it was happening. That's what happens when we are trying to correct foreign incidents
We don't wash out foreign Incidents in front of the world
You want the world to see this country as two parties, how they handle affairs of state is by political party and not representative of a unified, United States
You folks have made this political. I wouldn't trust you with any foreign policy, you don't even know what that is. What, you want US to accept Republican foreign policy, have foreign policy only represent republican interests...That will be cold day in hell, And you and anyone else who thinks that, can go there.
You better plan on winning every damn election.
People take an oath, before taking office... You think all Democrats and Liberals are liars, IF you think so..I call you Un-American, I say keep the illegals and get rid of you folks, you're the ones that need to
be deported or put in jail.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/7/2015 12:30 am

The Obama administration had a lot invested in the notion that Al-Qaeda was "on the run," "decimated," etc. It was a few weeks before the election of 2012. They lied through their teeth to make Obama's failing policy look good, and it was good enough through election day.

WTF, you can't be serious, rowing away from a sinking ship, somehow makes the ship not sink. The terrorist incident alone was the sinking ship

You say, oh but the president tried to say it wasn't a terrorist incident
I say, even he isn't that stupid, but you are. 4 Americans dead, killed by a video..
Guns don't kill people...videos kill people.....maybe he was talking to republicans,, because you're the ones that are that stupid..

Of course,,,,, he said it because he 'thought he could get away with it. ..........bullshit,,,,,that's not why he said, and why he said it wasn't about domestic politics . in fact, the way you folks interpret his statement is a million times more political than the statement itself.
Don't tell me Obama's motive were political, you fall deeper and deeper into my blog. We may not know Obama's exact motives. but we do know yours, and yours at this point is all that matters.


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/7/2015 6:29 am

Once the chips have fallen............
And it come to world politics it's not the same thing, that's not what we stand for. We are the UNITED states, when comes to world politics.

You can voice your opinion, about world politics, cast your ballot about world politics if you choose.

But don't dare undermine US.!


jiminycricket1 74M
13732 posts
11/7/2015 6:50 pm

    Quoting Fossil_Fetcher:
    Jiminy,

    You should consider replacing Bill O'Reilly when he retires. What he does with the volume of his voice, you do with the overwhelming quantity of your words. I'd be much more interested in your posts if it didn't take me half an hour to mentally sort them and before the insult crosses your lips, I am not a mental midget.

    Like I told ET - collect your thoughts.

    Thank you, Sir.

    Fossil

    God Save America !!

I think that all the time.. Wish I could be more succinct.
It just doesn't work for me, I have tried. All those response started out as one short paragraph, and then blossom, I couldn't control it. sorry to put you through it, but most of the time I just got to get it out and keep going back.
I don't have a plan of attack, I'm not trying to convince you, I spend more time on a plan if that was case. It happens when it happens, I just throw it out there

funny, this response was suppose to be just the first line.. I did it again